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Eastern Washington at Minnesota Offical Game Thread

Eastern Washington Eagles @ Minnesota Golden Gophers


Col_ewash_mediumI'd be lying if I said I knew much of anything about Eastern Washington and I assume that you are in the same boat. 

Here is a little snapshot of the EMU Eagles....

Record: 3-1
Wins over: Idaho, UC-Irvine, Texas-Arlington
Lost to: Illinois by 16

Players to watch...



Pnts / Gm Reb / Gm
Bobby Valentine Junior, PG 18 1.8
Brandon Moore Junior, C (6-9) 13 7.5
Milan Stanojevic Senior, G 9.3 2.5

Efficiency stats for both teams (brief explanation below)...

EWU Minn
Off Efficiency 101.1 101.3
Def Efficiency 99.7 92.8
Eff Differential 1.40 8.50
eFG% 49.8 50.0
Off Reb % 30.5 38.3
Def Reb % 27.4 35.5
Steal % 7.6 11.6
Turnover % 18.9 23.3

You will see a heavy dose of efficiency stats from me throughout the season as it is so much more accurate than your typical accumulation of box score numbers.  A full explantion of the KenPom Efficiency stats can be found HERE, but I'll give you the dummy version.

Basically everything gets broken down to the possession level.  Ken Pomery explains the formulas to get to that point, but it is important that everything get reduced to that level.  A team like North Carolina will have a ton of possessions which leads to a lot of points scored per GAME.  This will also lead to their opponent having a lot of possessions which leads to a lot of points give up per game.  A team like Wisconsin will obviously have opposite results.  But this means points per game or points allowed per game are misleading stats so everything is reduced to possessions.  Like I said you can find more info on the site, this isn't a lesson in statistics, but a brief explanation of the stats I picked for team comparison...

  • Off / Def Efficiency - average points scored / allowed in a game with 100 possessions
  • Eff Differential - obviously score more than you allow, teams that are +2 or greater do well come NCAA time.
  • eFG% - combo of regular FG% and thee point %, basically you get a little bump for made threes because they are worth a little bit more (looking for 51.5% or greater)
  • Off Reb% - the % of time you rebound your own misses (strive for 35%)
  • Def Reb% - the % of time you rebound your opponents misses
  • Steal % - % of opponents possessions you steal
  • Turnover % - obviously the amount of possessions you turn the ball over (should be sub 19%)

Numbers that should jump out for this game are the Gopher's turnover % which is really  high (234th in the nation).  This overall really doesn't concern me through just a handful of games, but it is worth keeping an eye on tonight.  Rebounding looks good for the home team tonight and there really is no reason to think we have anything to worry about. 

With our young and inexperienced team I cannot ever expect a blowout (although it is possible), but I'm pretty confident in a W tonight over the Eagles.

PreGame Meal:

Hoffarber to have a "bigger role"
Tubby wants them to play defense
From the Barn has some keys to the game

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I feel like this is a team...

…we should blow out. But I thought we would win comfortably at CSU last weekend, too.

by rencito on Nov 26, 2008 6:00 PM CST   0 recs

It's early...

…. Other than teams that have been together for awhile, many, many teams are playing closer with teams they should beat easily. Take Purdue from last year. Very young team. They lost back to back to Wofford and Iowa State during the pre-conference slate. Young teams will be streaky, IMO, and play up and down to the competition.

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by PJS on Nov 26, 2008 7:10 PM CST   0 recs

agreed

I would just like to see them blow someone out for a change. There were definitely stretches during the CSU game where they were clicking and looked really good. I would like to see that more often. But I agree, they should get better as the year progresses.

by rencito on Nov 26, 2008 7:27 PM CST to parent up   0 recs

score updates every few min would be appreciated

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by GopherNation on Nov 26, 2008 7:18 PM CST   0 recs

Well the BTN has Old Dominion v. MSU women's hoops on now.

There is 4:30 ish to play. Think they leave this game to go to the Gophers?

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by PJS on Nov 26, 2008 7:27 PM CST to parent up   0 recs

832 my time. Still on MSU blowout of ODU. BTN sucks

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by PJS on Nov 26, 2008 7:32 PM CST to parent up   0 recs

Please help me...!!!

What do I do?

The DVR is currently recording two things, so I can’t watch the Gophers until 8:00. Both shows are the girl’s. Do I:

A). Stop one of them and pretend I don’t know anything about it?
B.) Wait it out and listen on the radio
C.) Wake her up while she is sleeping to ask her
D.) Wake her up while she is sleeping to watch the game in the bedroom

by rencito on Nov 26, 2008 7:32 PM CST   0 recs

A. Obviously.

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by PJS on Nov 26, 2008 7:35 PM CST to parent up   0 recs

oooh been there

are they young enough to believe that it was the DVRs fault if their show doesn’t record?

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by GopherNation on Nov 26, 2008 7:36 PM CST   0 recs

A

she’s got to understand where Gophers fall in comparison to Oprah or Trading Spaces or whatever

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by GopherNation on Nov 26, 2008 7:36 PM CST   0 recs

game on.

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by PJS on Nov 26, 2008 7:37 PM CST   0 recs

JAS starting and got the first two.

Why does he start?

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by PJS on Nov 26, 2008 7:37 PM CST   0 recs

Colton with the best inside move I've seen from him!

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by PJS on Nov 26, 2008 7:39 PM CST   0 recs

i think it is out of respect

that jas starts…i don’t think we’ll see this in the non-conf games…that being said, he hasn’t been bad in the early going

by rencito on Nov 26, 2008 7:40 PM CST   0 recs

precident has been set

advantage girlfriend

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by GopherNation on Nov 26, 2008 7:41 PM CST to parent up   0 recs

Inside out ball with Iverson as the focal point.

My guess is Tubby is demanding getting the ball inside!

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by PJS on Nov 26, 2008 7:40 PM CST   0 recs

Westbrook out with a shin injury?

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by PJS on Nov 26, 2008 7:42 PM CST   0 recs

I'm at Wolves game

Phoenix shot 68.4% in the first quarter

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by GopherNation on Nov 26, 2008 7:42 PM CST   0 recs

I’m watching the Wolves on TV, no BTN out here at my lake cabin

Regular score/ any type of in-depth updates would be incredibly greatly superbly appreciated.

by gopherz on Nov 26, 2008 7:43 PM CST to parent up   0 recs

check out the Wolves SBN site

canis hoopus

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by GopherNation on Nov 26, 2008 7:44 PM CST to parent up   0 recs

No I meant for the Gopher game. I can watch the Wolves, but not the Gophers.

Timberwolves have been embarrassing so far tonight.

by gopherz on Nov 26, 2008 7:45 PM CST to parent up   0 recs

what???

i don’t think they shoot that high in the pre-game shootaround

by rencito on Nov 26, 2008 7:44 PM CST to parent up   0 recs

“The Big Cactus, sticks the Wolves”

Hahahaha

What’s Iverson doing so great? And what’s the score/time?

by gopherz on Nov 26, 2008 7:47 PM CST   0 recs

Lost my connection.

It’s 9-9 at the moment. We’re hammering the ball inside to Iverson it seems like on every posession.

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by PJS on Nov 26, 2008 7:48 PM CST   0 recs

Iverson again. I think he has 6 of our 11.

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by PJS on Nov 26, 2008 7:48 PM CST   0 recs

They went into Colt twice on that posession.

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by PJS on Nov 26, 2008 7:48 PM CST to parent up   0 recs

Awesome

It’s great to hear Colt 45 succeed.

by gopherz on Nov 26, 2008 7:49 PM CST   0 recs

wow

iverson is a monster

by rencito on Nov 26, 2008 7:49 PM CST   0 recs

Wow! Carter misses a drive. Colton catches the rebound and slams!

EWU answers and its 13-11 MN.

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by PJS on Nov 26, 2008 7:50 PM CST   0 recs

High low now!

Iverson up high to RSIII down low. A 2 and a foul!

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by PJS on Nov 26, 2008 7:51 PM CST   0 recs

FWIW, EWU has no one above 6'9

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by PJS on Nov 26, 2008 7:51 PM CST   0 recs

EWU sounds kind of like NDSU then when it comes to size. Moorman is a joke. I’m actually from Fargo and back home in Fargo right now for Thanksgiving break so I’m looking forward to our winning on Saturday. GO GOPHERS!!

by gopherz on Nov 26, 2008 7:52 PM CST   0 recs

look out for NDSU

Woodside would be a three year starter for the Gophs (probably 4) and Winkleman can score too

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by GopherNation on Nov 26, 2008 7:54 PM CST to parent up   0 recs

agreed

NDSU is no one to sleep on…didn’t they win in Madison a few years ago?

by rencito on Nov 26, 2008 7:55 PM CST to parent up   0 recs

that was a little bit of a fluke

but this team is experienced and talented. They redshirted a few of these guys so this team would be good their first year eligible for the NCAAs

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by GopherNation on Nov 26, 2008 7:57 PM CST to parent up   0 recs

right...but

it is good to see them use the height to their advantage…did BGSU or GA ST have anyone that big?

by rencito on Nov 26, 2008 7:53 PM CST   0 recs

No

I don’t think they did, didn’t seem like it at least. If they did, they didn’t really stand out.

by gopherz on Nov 26, 2008 7:53 PM CST   0 recs

16-11 with 11:51 left.

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by PJS on Nov 26, 2008 7:55 PM CST   0 recs

bostick

good to see him in the game

by rencito on Nov 26, 2008 7:55 PM CST   0 recs

Joseph from deep for 3.

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by PJS on Nov 26, 2008 7:55 PM CST   0 recs

do we still have 5 newcomers on the floor?

joseph, bostick, carter, iverson, sampson?

by rencito on Nov 26, 2008 7:56 PM CST   0 recs

Interesting lineup: Carter, Joseph, Bostick, Sampson, Busch.

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by PJS on Nov 26, 2008 7:56 PM CST   0 recs

Busch makes 2 for 21-11

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by PJS on Nov 26, 2008 7:56 PM CST   0 recs

It just seems like one of these nights Carter is going to explode.

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by PJS on Nov 26, 2008 7:57 PM CST   0 recs

Bostick with a quick 3.

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by PJS on Nov 26, 2008 7:58 PM CST   0 recs

it is sad

but I haven’t seen the Gophers play yet this year and I’m working the Wolves game on Saturday again so I’ll miss NDSU

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by GopherNation on Nov 26, 2008 7:58 PM CST   0 recs

Wolves over Gophers? You are a pathetic fan.

I’m firing you.

Hey rencito, want a job?

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by PJS on Nov 26, 2008 7:59 PM CST to parent up   0 recs

basically the job description is to carry the load here at TDG.

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by PJS on Nov 26, 2008 7:59 PM CST to parent up   0 recs

+1

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by GopherNation on Nov 26, 2008 8:01 PM CST to parent up   0 recs

I take most of the glory, FYI..

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by PJS on Nov 26, 2008 8:00 PM CST to parent up   0 recs

+1

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by GopherNation on Nov 26, 2008 8:01 PM CST to parent up   0 recs

if you can match the pay

I’ll never do a Wolves game as long as I live

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by GopherNation on Nov 26, 2008 8:00 PM CST to parent up   0 recs

15-0 run.

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by PJS on Nov 26, 2008 7:58 PM CST   0 recs

my 1st game...

of the year will be new year’s: Mich St in town…hoping to be celebrating in a big way

by rencito on Nov 26, 2008 7:59 PM CST   0 recs

Busch just took a fallaway. Yuck. Payton got a rebound.

Kicked to Joseph. Misses 3. RSIII rebound. Lay up. Weird possession.

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by PJS on Nov 26, 2008 8:02 PM CST   0 recs

ugh

Payton and Busch are playing? Come B10 season I hope that is not the case

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by GopherNation on Nov 26, 2008 8:04 PM CST to parent up   0 recs

btw...

good to have trent tucker back doing games

by rencito on Nov 26, 2008 8:03 PM CST   0 recs

Bostick another three.

This time in a secondary break. Nice.

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by PJS on Nov 26, 2008 8:03 PM CST   0 recs

Wolves

Down 16 at half…..terrible

by gopherz on Nov 26, 2008 8:03 PM CST   0 recs

i would have guessed worse

given the earlier FG% stat

by rencito on Nov 26, 2008 8:04 PM CST to parent up   0 recs

It's 29-18.

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by PJS on Nov 26, 2008 8:03 PM CST   0 recs

WTF. Busch shoots everytime he touches the ball.

Annoying.

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by PJS on Nov 26, 2008 8:04 PM CST   0 recs

you should e-mail him at the What Else Show

and ask why he shoots everytime he touches it.

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by GopherNation on Nov 26, 2008 8:05 PM CST to parent up   0 recs

good idea. maybe we should encourage all TDG readeres to email him?

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by PJS on Nov 26, 2008 8:06 PM CST to parent up   0 recs

I bet TonyO would send an email.

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by PJS on Nov 26, 2008 8:06 PM CST to parent up   0 recs

yuck

fouling on a three-pointer

by rencito on Nov 26, 2008 8:04 PM CST   0 recs

Now Busch fouls a dude shooting a 3 pointer.

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by PJS on Nov 26, 2008 8:04 PM CST   0 recs

4 more years?

by gopherz on Nov 26, 2008 8:05 PM CST   0 recs

huh?

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by PJS on Nov 26, 2008 8:05 PM CST to parent up   0 recs

Oh, I get it. I'm real, real slow.

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by PJS on Nov 26, 2008 8:08 PM CST to parent up   0 recs

I'm off to get some half time snacks

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by GopherNation on Nov 26, 2008 8:06 PM CST   0 recs

wow...

chaminade might beat Indiana???

by rencito on Nov 26, 2008 8:07 PM CST   0 recs