Eastern Washington at Minnesota Offical Game Thread
by GopherNation on Nov 26, 2008 5:45 PM CST
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Eastern Washington Eagles at Minnesota Golden Gophers, Nov 26, 2008 7:30 PM CST
I'd be lying if I said I knew much of anything about Eastern Washington and I assume that you are in the same boat.
Here is a little snapshot of the EMU Eagles....
Record: 3-1
Wins over: Idaho, UC-Irvine, Texas-Arlington
Lost to: Illinois by 16
Players to watch...
| Pnts / Gm | Reb / Gm | ||
| Bobby Valentine | Junior, PG | 18 | 1.8 |
| Brandon Moore | Junior, C (6-9) | 13 | 7.5 |
| Milan Stanojevic | Senior, G | 9.3 | 2.5 |
Efficiency stats for both teams (brief explanation below)...
| EWU | Minn | |
| Off Efficiency | 101.1 | 101.3 |
| Def Efficiency | 99.7 | 92.8 |
| Eff Differential | 1.40 | 8.50 |
| eFG% | 49.8 | 50.0 |
| Off Reb % | 30.5 | 38.3 |
| Def Reb % | 27.4 | 35.5 |
| Steal % | 7.6 | 11.6 |
| Turnover % | 18.9 | 23.3 |
You will see a heavy dose of efficiency stats from me throughout the season as it is so much more accurate than your typical accumulation of box score numbers. A full explantion of the KenPom Efficiency stats can be found HERE, but I'll give you the dummy version.
Basically everything gets broken down to the possession level. Ken Pomery explains the formulas to get to that point, but it is important that everything get reduced to that level. A team like North Carolina will have a ton of possessions which leads to a lot of points scored per GAME. This will also lead to their opponent having a lot of possessions which leads to a lot of points give up per game. A team like Wisconsin will obviously have opposite results. But this means points per game or points allowed per game are misleading stats so everything is reduced to possessions. Like I said you can find more info on the site, this isn't a lesson in statistics, but a brief explanation of the stats I picked for team comparison...
- Off / Def Efficiency - average points scored / allowed in a game with 100 possessions
- Eff Differential - obviously score more than you allow, teams that are +2 or greater do well come NCAA time.
- eFG% - combo of regular FG% and thee point %, basically you get a little bump for made threes because they are worth a little bit more (looking for 51.5% or greater)
- Off Reb% - the % of time you rebound your own misses (strive for 35%)
- Def Reb% - the % of time you rebound your opponents misses
- Steal % - % of opponents possessions you steal
- Turnover % - obviously the amount of possessions you turn the ball over (should be sub 19%)
Numbers that should jump out for this game are the Gopher's turnover % which is really high (234th in the nation). This overall really doesn't concern me through just a handful of games, but it is worth keeping an eye on tonight. Rebounding looks good for the home team tonight and there really is no reason to think we have anything to worry about.
With our young and inexperienced team I cannot ever expect a blowout (although it is possible), but I'm pretty confident in a W tonight over the Eagles.
PreGame Meal:
Hoffarber to have a "bigger role"
Tubby wants them to play defense
From the Barn has some keys to the game
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I feel like this is a team...
…we should blow out. But I thought we would win comfortably at CSU last weekend, too.
It's early...
…. Other than teams that have been together for awhile, many, many teams are playing closer with teams they should beat easily. Take Purdue from last year. Very young team. They lost back to back to Wofford and Iowa State during the pre-conference slate. Young teams will be streaky, IMO, and play up and down to the competition.
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agreed
I would just like to see them blow someone out for a change. There were definitely stretches during the CSU game where they were clicking and looked really good. I would like to see that more often. But I agree, they should get better as the year progresses.
score updates every few min would be appreciated
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Well the BTN has Old Dominion v. MSU women's hoops on now.
There is 4:30 ish to play. Think they leave this game to go to the Gophers?
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832 my time. Still on MSU blowout of ODU. BTN sucks
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Please help me...!!!
What do I do?
The DVR is currently recording two things, so I can’t watch the Gophers until 8:00. Both shows are the girl’s. Do I:
A). Stop one of them and pretend I don’t know anything about it?
B.) Wait it out and listen on the radio
C.) Wake her up while she is sleeping to ask her
D.) Wake her up while she is sleeping to watch the game in the bedroom
oooh been there
are they young enough to believe that it was the DVRs fault if their show doesn’t record?
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A
she’s got to understand where Gophers fall in comparison to Oprah or Trading Spaces or whatever
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JAS starting and got the first two.
Why does he start?
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Colton with the best inside move I've seen from him!
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i think it is out of respect
that jas starts…i don’t think we’ll see this in the non-conf games…that being said, he hasn’t been bad in the early going
precident has been set
advantage girlfriend
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by GopherNation on Nov 26, 2008 7:41 PM CST up reply actions
Inside out ball with Iverson as the focal point.
My guess is Tubby is demanding getting the ball inside!
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I'm at Wolves game
Phoenix shot 68.4% in the first quarter
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I’m watching the Wolves on TV, no BTN out here at my lake cabin
Regular score/ any type of in-depth updates would be incredibly greatly superbly appreciated.
check out the Wolves SBN site
canis hoopus
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by GopherNation on Nov 26, 2008 7:44 PM CST up reply actions
Lost my connection.
It’s 9-9 at the moment. We’re hammering the ball inside to Iverson it seems like on every posession.
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Iverson again. I think he has 6 of our 11.
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They went into Colt twice on that posession.
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Wow! Carter misses a drive. Colton catches the rebound and slams!
EWU answers and its 13-11 MN.
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High low now!
Iverson up high to RSIII down low. A 2 and a foul!
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EWU sounds kind of like NDSU then when it comes to size. Moorman is a joke. I’m actually from Fargo and back home in Fargo right now for Thanksgiving break so I’m looking forward to our winning on Saturday. GO GOPHERS!!
look out for NDSU
Woodside would be a three year starter for the Gophs (probably 4) and Winkleman can score too
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by GopherNation on Nov 26, 2008 7:54 PM CST up reply actions
that was a little bit of a fluke
but this team is experienced and talented. They redshirted a few of these guys so this team would be good their first year eligible for the NCAAs
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by GopherNation on Nov 26, 2008 7:57 PM CST up reply actions
right...but
it is good to see them use the height to their advantage…did BGSU or GA ST have anyone that big?
No
I don’t think they did, didn’t seem like it at least. If they did, they didn’t really stand out.
Interesting lineup: Carter, Joseph, Bostick, Sampson, Busch.
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It just seems like one of these nights Carter is going to explode.
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it is sad
but I haven’t seen the Gophers play yet this year and I’m working the Wolves game on Saturday again so I’ll miss NDSU
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Wolves over Gophers? You are a pathetic fan.
I’m firing you.
Hey rencito, want a job?
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basically the job description is to carry the load here at TDG.
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+1
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by GopherNation on Nov 26, 2008 8:01 PM CST up reply actions
+1
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by GopherNation on Nov 26, 2008 8:01 PM CST up reply actions
if you can match the pay
I’ll never do a Wolves game as long as I live
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by GopherNation on Nov 26, 2008 8:00 PM CST up reply actions
my 1st game...
of the year will be new year’s: Mich St in town…hoping to be celebrating in a big way
Busch just took a fallaway. Yuck. Payton got a rebound.
Kicked to Joseph. Misses 3. RSIII rebound. Lay up. Weird possession.
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ugh
Payton and Busch are playing? Come B10 season I hope that is not the case
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by GopherNation on Nov 26, 2008 8:04 PM CST up reply actions
Bostick another three.
This time in a secondary break. Nice.
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WTF. Busch shoots everytime he touches the ball.
Annoying.
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you should e-mail him at the What Else Show
and ask why he shoots everytime he touches it.
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by GopherNation on Nov 26, 2008 8:05 PM CST up reply actions
good idea. maybe we should encourage all TDG readeres to email him?
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Now Busch fouls a dude shooting a 3 pointer.
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IU is awful. And they should have been docked more scholarships.
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I think Tubby is looking very dapper tonight. Nice coat and tie.
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Iverson inside again. Misses first, rebounds,. Gathers. Scores.
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Not so impressed with Bostick's ups on that dunk.
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though Kevin Payton would have pump-fakeed and kicked out, so a big improvement.
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Great to hear!!
If we dominate EWU and get Iverson going, NDSU won’t be a problem with their total lack of an inside presence.
Tubby must have ordered them to get the ball inside at least once per possession.
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i heard...
tubby was all over them in practice to work more outside and be less of a jump shooting team
they really relied on the jumper way too much against CSU.
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JAS drive and score.
Will never happen in B10 play!
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Very nice hands there from Iverson.
Tough pass from Hoffarber. Caught and scored.
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good
this then NDSU should be a nice lead into UVA on Tues
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EWU hits a 3 with a few seconds left.
Halftime. 47-29 at half.
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Tubby just said the Gophers didn't get the ball inside enough against CSU ....
… True, but CSU also had two big, experienced dudes inside. Colton and RSIII were somewhat overmatched.
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i didn't watch the game
but were those other guys that much bigger? i feel like we have enough size that we should be able to compete with anyone
the one dude was pretty big. The white dude from Minnesota. I'm forgetting his name.
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i made some beer...
what kind should i have:
A.) oktoberfest
B.) red winter ale
C.) stout
D.) hard cider
half time fodder...
who will be Reusse’s turkey of the year tomorrow?
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I think he'd go McHale over Wittman so he could hammer the U too for no good reason!
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I could easily see him picking Brewster. ....
… but McHale seems the easier target.
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Lovin Colton Iverson
This kid is a Stud….I Love Tubby’s recruiting plan…..Recruit The Best Locally Before you Recruit the Best Nationally…Its obviously showing off with the Yankton SD Native
locally?
Virginia
Missouri
Canada
etc
while Taylor goes to Wis and what’s his name goes to Iowa?
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by GopherNation on Nov 26, 2008 8:26 PM CST up reply actions
no he didn't
they both CommitTed To monson
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by GopherNation on Nov 26, 2008 8:28 PM CST up reply actions
turkey
I’m thinking Gophers football coaching staff (it doesn’t have to be one person, does it?) for the collapse…that we he can toot his own horn and say he saw it coming, blah, blah, blah
there is a lot of blame to go around
on that coaching staff
special teams coach for fielding punts repeatedly inside the 10
OL coach who is now gone
Brewster, of course
Dunbar for turning one of the best offenses into one of the worst down the stretch
Wheelright.
We never talked about this much, but how much did losing him hurt the offense?
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My impressions
Iverson – great
Busch – not so much
Yes it’s preseason and it’s good to try different guys but pretty soon he should settle on 8-9 guys tops and play them until we have a comfortable lead
OMG, Busch was killing me. It's like he thinks he's instant offense.
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maybe
but after sitting at Wolves game I think McHale has a really good shot
PR doesn’t like the Love trade
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do you think it is that bad?
I liked the trade at first—I realize I’m in the minority. I know Mayo puts up points…but what else does he do? I feel like he is one dimensional. I like that we got Miller out of the deal—but i’m being proved wrong so far this year
Past Turkeys
1997: Dennis Green
1998: Carl Pohlad
1999: Clem Haskins
2000: Jesse Ventura
2001: Randy Moss, Cris Carter
2002: Kevin McHale and Flip Saunders
2003: Glen Mason
2004: Red McCombs
2005: Bob Naegele
2006: Pam Borton
2007: Charlie Weis
what about Childress
pimping Tarvaris all year long and watching be a complete bust
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by GopherNation on Nov 26, 2008 8:37 PM CST up reply actions
he's questioned the long-term suitability of The Barn too ...
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yes, but be quiet about that. the masses get upset.
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if they tear down the barn
I’ll move to Iowa City
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by GopherNation on Nov 26, 2008 8:37 PM CST up reply actions
What about keeping the raised floor but in a bigger, newer arena?
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GREAT CALL TONY
I think you are right
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by GopherNation on Nov 26, 2008 8:39 PM CST up reply actions
He did that?
And, no, I don’t follow the Wild. At all. Ever.
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Its Not Confirmed
But Michael Russo Like a week Ago Said he injured his Thigh Playing hackey sack and speculated that it could be a torn quad.
sounds like Iverson
is Kevin McHale out there
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by GopherNation on Nov 26, 2008 8:43 PM CST up reply actions
I want to see a lot of Joseph, Bostick, Carter, RSIII and IVerson the rest of the way here.
See if they can put the game away.
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Wow. Sampson with a great look. Hoffarber miss. Sampson follows and puts it in.
Great vision from RSIII.
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We have four newcomers and Busch on the floor. Why Busch?
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Miss PJS just said Colton needs ProActiv. Women.
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Tubby has always preferred playeres who have odd Internet shows.
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Busch with 4 consecutive points. I take it all back.
He’ll probably be our leading scorer the rest of the year.
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I know. I actually like him. But I think he's looked for his shot too often.
He should stick to defense, aggressiveness and let the O come to him.
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See, again. Busch catches and does a turnaround/fadeaway near the free throw line?
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Those Hawkeye Fans Know how to party.....
A couple of University of Iowa fans took a break from Saturday’s game at the Metrodome against the University of Minnesota to have some illicit sex in a Dome restroom, police said.
The duo — a 38-year-old woman and a 26-year-old man from Carroll and Linden, Iowa, respectively — turned a handicapped toilet stall into their lovenest about 8:30 p.m., late in the Hawkeyes 55-0 trouncing of the Gophers.
A crowd of intoxicated fans gathered in the restroom to laugh and cheer the off-the-field action, until an Avalon Security guard tipped off University of Minnesota police to the ruckus.
Officers had to interrupt the intimate moment in order to cite the man and the woman with indecent conduct, a misdemeanor.
University of Minnesota Police Chief Greg Hestness said similar citations at the Metrodome or on campus usually involve public urination.
Carter being helped off. Isn't putting any pressure on his right leg.
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We haven't been able to put anyone away easily this year.
BGSU/Ga. State both came back in the second half to make things semi-intersting.
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Nice cut from Hoffarber. Good luck from Colton.
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Nice baby hook from Iverson.
He has 22. Nice. 10-13 says Larivee.
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Sorry, lost my connection. Game is over at this point.
We won easily. Took a big lead again after Nolen, Hoffarber, Johnson, Iverson and JAS came back in.
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Iverson is a Player
PJS, caught the Purdue game last night in the Garden but just took a look at Iverson’s line, your blogging and an email I got from a smart dude who watched Minny game. Damn. Moves the ball, good footwork, scores. He could be your go to man in the post. Light years ahead of BJ Mullens at this point, which is most likely attributable to his lack of confidence not to mention Ohio State’s scheme. Good work.
TD Lawlor www.hoopraker.com
Well, also consider that EWU had no one above 6'9 on the roster.
That said, he demonstrated a nice drop step, a nice baby hook, better than average passing abilty from the low post, passing ability from the high post. Tubby clearly ordered them to get the ball into the post early and often. Iverson seemed ready for the opportunity. He’s clearly more ready than RSIII at this point, glad to hear he might be ahead of Mullens.
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