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Tubby Smith's Gophers head into tonight's tilt with South Dakota State unblemished. So?

I'm a diehard Gophers basketball fan inside. I get all giddy like a school boy when they fare well. But looking at this 8-0 mark from a rational perspective tells me this team hasn't proven all that much. I agree with the assessment of Storming the Floor, which calls the unbeaten streak a "paper tiger."

If we throw out the Non-D1 win, what we have is seven games, with six hosted at Williams Arena. The most impressive is the win over Virginia, which has some fine athletes and could certainly have won the game based on that factor alone. On the other hand, the lone road win, at Colorado State, is a bit troubling, as the Rams are bound to be one of the worst teams in the MWC this season. Plenty of teams have beaten them in their place, and plenty more will, and by larger margins.

Sometimes, in college basketball, winning easy can actually hamper a team. Taking some licks early on from strong teams can expose weaknesses that a coach like Orlando probably knows how to address. Minnesota might have been well served to hit up Tubby's former boss CM Newton for an invite to the preseason NIT, where they would have had a shot to play the likes of OU, Purdue, BC, and Davidson. Their next shot at a very good team comes December 20th, when the Gophers take on Rick Pitino's Louisville Cardinals on a neutral court (Should we call it the UK old-timer's Invitational?), and the rest is sub-red line fare.

The Big Ten season starts with a visit from Michigan State on New Year's Eve. Even if the Gophers reach that point with an 11-1 record, their campaign for the NCAAs begins on December 31st. Even if that assumed loss to the Cards turns out to be a win (we picture Tubby on the phone to Western Kentucky night and day), a bad Big Ten showing will doom them.

So, this gaudy 8-0 is nice for the early recruiting efforts, but for now, it's a paper tiger. Re-evaluate this one in late December. Then again in late February.

UK Old-Timer's Invitational? I prefer the "I Don't Miss Lexixington Showdown." But I digress.

What we have with our Gophers is a young team that has been mostly impressive. But they have plenty of faults--scoring in the hafl-court being the foremost issue in my opinion. I'm excited about this season as I always am. But, in reality the team still has much to prove before even I'll start talking about an NCAA Tournament bid.

  • If you haven't read it, Myron Medcalf of the Star Tribune has a nice story on Colton Iverson playing, well, not like a freshman. Good read. Colt 45 has been one pleasant surprise. Not that I thought he'd be bad, but he's been a tad better than advertised.
  • WTF is with the injuries??? The AP reports both Blake Hoffarber and Paul Carter are out for the SDSU game with sprained ankles and Devron Bostick also has an ankle issue.
  • Off topic entirely, but I've been so ultra busy with work--I'm not complaining, more work is good in this economy--that I've missed the last two episodes, maybe three, of both Fringe and Heroes. I like both shows though Fringe had started to annoy me and Heroes isn't what it once was. Any fans? Should I care to watch them online if possible?
  • I'm wondering, does Kevin McHale's total and utter ineptitude in running an NBA franchise have any negative impact on the maroon and gold? I haven't followed the NBA in years for myriad reasons, but McHale's connection with the Gophers can't be a good thing. Also, Canis Hoopus covers the Glen and Kevin Show. A good read.
  • Minnesota v. Kansas in the Insight Bowl is the 23rd worst match-up in the coming bowl season, according to this blog that I stumbled upon. Thank God for the bowl system. Can you feel the excitement? (heavy sarcasm intended).

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Agree That 8-0 Is The "Expected" Result So Far

But W over UVa was a good W. Likewise W over N Dak St and Cornell. Even Colo St OTR.

The Louisville game will show how the Gophers (healthy by then) stack up against NCAA caliber team(s).

by FortyYearCatFan on Dec 10, 2008 6:07 AM CST reply actions  

Paper Mink?

I don’t think anyone is claiming “Tiger” status just yet. Even the booster sites. We’re undefeated and in 37th (right?) place. it’s not like we’ve sneakily crept into the top 15 with a suspect resume. If we are to lose to Lousiville it might take us all the way to the post-OSU weekend to even get top 25… and that might take a sweep of MSU and OSU.

Anyway not trying to nitpick that guy’s writing, but I like the vibes people are putting out for this team. Optimistic and excited, but know we have a lot of work to do. In fact, as has been discussed, the weak schedule 8-0 (vs a strong 6-2?) may have kept us mostly under the radar from the general public until B10 season blows up The Barn on NYE.

Later Daily Gophs…

by InflectionPoint on Dec 10, 2008 1:05 PM CST reply actions  

Bowl System

Without the Bowl System the Gophers and almost every other team would be done right now. I think having 1 more game against a pretty good opponent is worth it.

by joekapp11 on Dec 10, 2008 2:30 PM CST reply actions  

bowls wouldn't go away

at least in the near future the minor and mid level bowls would remain. I assume that interest would wane after a few years of a playoff but they would at least give the bowls a shot. It would be like the NIT of football.

what you say here can, and will, be used against you

by GopherNation on Dec 11, 2008 8:32 AM CST up reply actions  

If there were no bowls...

If there were no bowl games, bowls wouldn’t go away? Don’t get it.

by joekapp11 on Dec 12, 2008 10:51 AM CST reply actions  

what I assumed

was that this is regarding the playoff vs. BCS controversy. If a playoff were instituded, I do not believe it would do away with the “bowl system.” It would do away withe BCS “Bowls” as we know it. But the current mid-level bowls would stay in place so the 2nd through 6th or 7th place teams in the B10 would still have an extra game in Dec/early Jan.

what you say here can, and will, be used against you

by GopherNation on Dec 12, 2008 12:40 PM CST reply actions  

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