Golden Nuggets for 12.3.08
by GopherNation on Dec 3, 2008 4:00 AM CST
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Hey the Gophers won their ACC match up, what is the problem with everybody else?
Oh ya, Minnesota's Iowa's Andrew Brommer took his 21.4% free throw percentage to the line down two. He missed the front end of the one-and-one. BC wins 57-55.
Illinois, down two, with the ball, under 20 seconds is unable to even get a shot off. I mean, not even throwing up a prayer with guys in the shooter's face. Ball never got above the shoulders, game over. Clemson wins 76-74. This was a great chance for the B10 to steal one.
Purdue got rolled by Duke 76-60. My personal commentary is that Purdue expected to get better just by getting older. They didn' work hard enough in the offseason to get BETTER. Personal opinion, for what it's worth.
On the bright side Ohio State went on the road and beat PJS's favorite to win the ACC (or something like that). OSU wins 73-68. Seriously though this is a big win for the Big Ten as Miami is ranked and is rather talented.
The Big Ten is going to get rolled tomorrow after going 3-3 to start the "challenge." Northwestern will not beat Florida State, North Carolina is unstoppable right now, Maybe Penn State over Georgia Tech, maybe Michigan over Maryland and Indiana will be luck to be within 25 of Wake. ACC is a lock for three wins and Big Ten has a chance at two, but 0-5 isn't out of the question.
- Back to football for a moment. Talk is increasing about potentially Wisconsin passing up the Champs Bowl for an Arizona location and the Inight Bowl. Conventional thought is that Minnesota would move "up" to the Champs Bowl and have a trip to Florida. Why would Wisconsin do this? Apparently they are bored with Florida cause they have played there four years in row. Boo hoo, go to Detroit if you want a change of pace.
What does this mean for the Gophers? Not much really. If Ohio State gets a BCS game we'll likely move up to the Insight. If we get to move one game up and go the Champs it is technically a more prestigious bowl but anything between a Jan 1 bowl and the Motor City Bowl are all kind of the same thing imo. - Bruce Feldman of Eee Ess Pee Enn believes that Brewster did the 10th best job coaching this year.
With all due respect to Joe Paterno and Pat Fitzgerald, no one took a program that was worse off a year ago than Brewster. He made a key move bringing in defensive coordinator Ted Roof to overhaul the defense. Brewster, a guy who has a solid reputation as a recruiter, was able to plug in a crew of gifted junior college transfers to infuse more speed and playmakers into the defense. Obviously, Brewster would be higher on this list had his team not dropped its final four games of the season.
It's about right. This was a remarkable turnaround that ended in a major buzz kill. It's easy to rip the team or their finish but in total this was a significant turnaround and a successful season. He needs to continue to build. - Hats off to the Gopher Volleyball team who recently wrapped up their regular season. Three Gophers were named to first team All-Big Ten and Christine Tan was named Big Ten Defensive Player of the Year. In addition to their post season awards the Gophers are a #6 seed in the NCAA tournament and are hosting a first round regional.
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Miami
In fairness, I think they were w/o one of their best players last night.
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Brommer
Was put in a tough situation – even the Iowa.rivals.com message board thinks he shouldn’t even have been in the game at the time.
Andrew is from Rosemount and friends with my son so I take offense at calling him out.
agreed
that he probably shouldn’t have been in the game at that point. If he really is a sub 50% shooter from the line and is obviously a true freshman he shouldn’t be playing at that moment.
Didn’t really mean to pile on as I’m sure he feels bad already (not like he’s reading this), just pointed him out along with Illinois as losing in the Challenge when they had a legit opportunity to win.
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by GopherNation on Dec 3, 2008 10:21 AM CST up reply actions
disagreed
There’s a reason free throws are called “free.”
And, this young man is getting a free education in exchange for playing basketball, right? If he’s good enough to play for free schooling, he’s good enough to shoot two free throws. And make them.
And, I think the hoop is still 15 feet away from the free throw stripe, at 10 feet high, just as Brommer played on at Rosemount (as I channel Norman Dale in "Hoosiers").
Also, the issue of the crowd doesn’t even come into play – there were no more than 3,000 fans at that game, as far as what I saw on TV.
Finally, beware the Tubby karma. Brommer should have known better than to de-commit after Monson was fired.
Even If 4 Or 5 B10 W
That’s more than usual vs. ACC teams.
by FortyYearCatFan on Dec 3, 2008 10:15 AM CST reply actions
Volleyball Clarification
The Gophers are the #6 seed OVERALL. This is not like being a #6 seed in the basketball tournament. This is more like being a #2 seed (I’m not sure why they don’t seed all the teams like they do in basketball—I think it is because teams are placed more according to geography than ranking if you are not hosting; only 16 of 64 teams are seeded).
In any event, I strongly encourage people to go watch them. They are playing at home in the NCAA tournament Friday (and Saturday assuming they win). Tickets are cheap and the games are pretty fun.
Big 10 vs ACC
The problem with this tournament isn’t that the ACC is that much better than the Big Ten. It’s that Duke and North Carolina are always that much better than anything the Big Ten has to offer. They are geting (2) wins almost automatically every year and it makes the rest of the Big Ten have to play up to higher competition every year. They are favored in 8 out of 11 of the contests. This won’t really be a challenge unless the Big Ten has a couple of teams step up into perrenial powers instead of just having a good year now and then. Right now there aren’t any programs in the Big Ten that have the coaching and tradition to be able to recruit with Duke and NC.
Beware the Gopher
Tradition and coaching—plus an urban campus that should be easier to recruit than pretty much any other Big 10 school. I can’t wait until we are matched up with Duke or UNC in the ACC/B10 challenge.
Be careful what you wish for
Neither Duke of NC has lost a single game in the Big Ten/ACC Challenge since it started in 1999. I’d love to play them too, but we aren’t there yet.
Insight vs Champs
Georgia Tech or Kansas? Is there any difference? No.
Playing in Florida or Arizona? Yes. There’s nobody to recruit in the desert. At least Minnesota would be exposed to those kids by playing in Orlando.
Plus, the Insight is on NFL Network – I don’t have that. Screw the Insight!
No to Georgia Tech, thanks much
After watching Georgia Tech beat up on the Bulldogs last Saturday, I don’t want the Gophers anywhere near that team. Nesbitt and Dwyer would eat the Gophers D alive. Much better to play a team that runs a spread offense like the Jayhawks – the Gophers D undoubtedly is better prepared for that than to play the triple option.
Plus, having to defend the triple option would cause Minnesota to use its bowl practices to prepare for an offense it’ll never see again. At least, if Minnesota plays Kansas, the bowl preparation can be used as low-level preparation for Cal, Purdue, Illinois and Penn State.
Oh wait – the Gophers open against Air Force? Scratch what I said – bring on the Jackets!
Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. . .whoa.
Iowa has a basketball program? When did THAT happen?
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by Christopher Gates on Dec 3, 2008 6:57 PM CST reply actions
don't worry, Gonzo
it didn’t. They have a group of men on the floor, but I’m not exactly sure yet if it is basketball or not
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