Golden Nugz for 1.21.09
Someone will be your new offensive coordinator soon. It probably won't be that East Carolina assistant. He turned the Gophers down. So did others. Many others.
The latest hot name is Denver Broncos assistant Jedd Fisch. The Star Tribune has the rumors here. Buck Bravo has more here. By the time this publishes Wednesday morning, Fisch might well have admitted taking the job. Most didn't want it.
So, why is it so hard for a BCS level program that is presumably on the rise to hire an offensive coordinator? I understand that we are not USC, Florida or even Notre Dame; all of whom could take their pick of offensive coordinators. But this also is a Big Ten team. We have been rebuffed by position coaches at other major programs who presumably would appreciate an opportunity to take the next step. We have been turned down by offensive coordinators at non-BCS schools who presumably would love to take the reigns of an offense at a school with presumably more resources and presumably greater talent.
This is the list of candidates contacted, offered or interviewed...the position remains open.
- Major Applewhite - Tex RB coach
- Josh Huepel - OK QB coach
- Dana Holgorsen - Hou Off Cord
- Jeff Horton - St. Louis Rams special assistant
- Gunter Brewer - OK St co-Off Cord
- Todd Fitch - East Carolina Off Cord
So, what does Fisch know that these other guys don't? I guess it matters not. I'm sure he's tremendous.
- It looks like Tubby Smith's push for new practice facilities to keep up with the college hoops Joneses is in the works. The PiPress talks to Joel Maturi about a site search for new facilities. And the Minnesota Daily points out that John Beilein and his Wolverines are getting new digs fairly soon.
- Congratulations are in order for junior Ashley Ellis-Milan for being named co-Big Ten Player of the Week after averaging 18 points and 8 rebounds in wins over Ohio State and Michigan.
- The Ozone has a nice wrap up of last week's Big Ten basketball action.
- Over at The Slipper Still Fits (Gonzaga blog), there are bracket projections for your persual. The blogger has Minnesota as a #5 seed facing off against #12 USC. A Tim Floyd-Tubby Smith match-up could be fun.
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Hmmm......
…well, let me start it up.
The day Brewster fired Dunbar he said that he “ha[d] a plan.” He also said that he thought “the hire will be an absolute knockout. An absolute killer shot.”
Maybe the best thing Brewster can do is think before he talks. Hiring a currently unemployed NFL position coach is not a “killer shot.” If Fisch is the guy, and it looks like he is, this is another step back. Dunbar was an established coordinator. Fisch will be learning on the job this fall.
Let me throw out these questions. Most of the aforementioned candidates are current coaches at warm weather schools. When I look at those candidates, a few in particular look to be in line for coordinator positions at their alma maters (Applewhite, Heupel), are probably treated like deities in their current towns, and are just waiting to move up.
First off, why aren’t we hiring our former players as coaches? Brian Cupito was a smart, effective quarterback. Why isn’t he coaching here? Or is he? Why not bring back some of the other players once their playing days are over (such as Chris Darkins, Thomas Hamner, Asad Abdul-Khaliq)? They have credibility on the recruiting trail and can relate to the kids.
Here’s the second question I have. It’s been generally accepted that Metrodome had become a recruiting problem. But, while TCF Stadium is a great stadium and will be great for Minnesotans to enjoy outdoor football, does that scare away this list of predominantly southern candidates? I know the weather is being used against Michigan recruiting and I’m certain it happens here too. I’m not sure how much Major Applewhite would want to give up 75 degrees in November to game plan for a 30 degree day in Minneapolis in winter. For that matter, would any of these guys want to live in a place that just went through last week’s cold spell?
I think forces outside Minnesota’s control (weather) may have hurt this coaching search. But Brewster also hurts it with his braggadocio. By bringing in a neophyte with no coordinating experience, we are yet again, as a fan base, going to have to suffer growing pains. I wouldn’t be shocked if the offense needs a few weeks to get over the new staff’s feeling out process on in-game management in the fall. Given that Air Force, Cal-Berkeley, and Wisconsin are on the early part of the schedule, I again maintain that Brewster could quickly be in hot water this fall if things turn south.
Finally, I haven’t heard much about that contract extension lately. Is that still happening? I firmly believe Brewster hasn’t done enough to earn it, and these hires should force him to coach for his job this fall. I’m sure many disagree, but if he can’t figure it out by year 3 we may be waiting a long time for him to get it.
by JG2112 on Jan 21, 2009 7:52 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
Brewster's words
You’re absolutely right. Brewster needs to pause and think through what he’s going to say. He continually sets unrealistic expectations. He surely means well, but his incessant spin (Harold Howell is going to be great, a knockout hire etc…) simply feeds into the caraciature that has been created about him.
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by PJS on Jan 21, 2009 8:31 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
great points JG
My first thought is that former players are not on the staff because Brewster has no relationship or history with them. Good or bad, coaches don’t hire people they don’t know. Their jobs and livelihood are on the line and they aren’t going to bring in guys from the previous (failed) regime. Texas and OK have coaches who have been there a while. You tell me, how many of Michigan’s assistants are former Michigan players? I would imagine that if Brewster is around long enough guys like Weber or whoever will have their opportunities to coach if they’d desire.
I’m not anti-Fisch (yet) he was seriously considered and interviewed for the UCLA OC spot last year and the Det Lions OC opening this year, so it’s not like he’s never been considered for this level of a job. Having a decent resume of NFL jobs may be appealing to recruits but who knows if he can recruit.
what you say here can, and will, be used against you
by GopherNation on Jan 21, 2009 9:05 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
That's a fair point....
…..you make about the regime and knowing the players. Michigan has a mix. A couple graduate assistants that are U-M grads from the recent past, but also the majority of guys there are from Rich Rod’s West Virginia family tree. The biggest profile U-M grad I saw get a job this year was Tyrone Wheatley, but that was as RB coach at Eastern Michigan. I get why Brewster wouldn’t have former guys here with that context. I just wish he’d get some of those Texas kids up here.
And I wish he could get Marty Schottenheimer up here on staff or in an advisory role. Schott can’t sniff a job right now.
I’m not anti-Fisch yet either. I am greatly concerned about the fitting in and settling down process we’ll all have to endure this fall. Hopefully with a veteran QB it won’t be that unsettling.
by JG2112 on Jan 21, 2009 9:19 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
First off, I’m not against this hire, but I do agree with other posts that it isn’t the “knockout” he claimed it would be.
I think there are three main things going against a knockout OC…
1) One year contracts… I don’t know if all colleges are like this but I know in the pro ranks key assistants (including coordinators) get two year contracts. This gives them some cash guarantee if the coach leaves/is fired. I personally think all coordinators or “assistant head coaches” should be on two year deals, at least with the initial contract. If the head coach can get extended for 3-5 years I think is a valid request, certainly if you want someone bigger than Fisch.
2) Salaries – if you are going to give only one year deals, the salary for a coordinator must be in line with other coordinators in BCS conferences. Look at Roof, who got a 200K raise (or a 67% raise over his 300K at Minnesota deal) to go to Auburn. Nick Holt, who left USC for Washington’s D-Coordinator, got 2.1M over 3 years. Their O-Coordinator only gets 350K, but it is also a 3-year deal.
3) The whole “co-coordinator” thing… Is this person the man calling all of the plays or is he a coordinator in name only with Tim Davis still involved? And if so does this person get to implement their philosophy or just a part of it? I agree we needed a better power running scheme in short yardage/goal line but I don’t want to ditch the spread between the 10s.
To get an absolute stud OC hire, they probably needed to offer a 2 year, $1M deal at a minimum. If they don’t have that budgeted it is a shame, especially heading into the new stadium.
by mraveling on Jan 21, 2009 9:23 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
as I recall
when Brewster first came on board he requested higher pay for his assistants and Dunbar/Whiters (Roof) were a couple of the highest paid coordinators in the Big Ten.
what you say here can, and will, be used against you
by GopherNation on Jan 21, 2009 9:45 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
It is official now -- Fisch has been hired
This is not such a bad hire. Even though we are essentially giving out an offensive coordinator apprenticeship to this guy much like we gave out a Big Ten Head Coach apprenticeship to Brewster in 2007, there are many positives as well. I like that he is one of those 20 hour day workaholics who will leave no stone unturned in his preparation. I like that he is a up&comer and he will do what up&comers do — scare the hell out of the opposition. He is young, optismistic, energetic and comes from a good football pedigree, which means he will be a good recruiter. Helluva a lot better hire than Cosgrove.
by Garrick on Jan 21, 2009 3:42 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
I like the hire...
Don’t ask me why — just a gut feeling. And one REAL positive is that while Dunbar was supposedly a “spread” genius, he was getting set in his ways. Kinda old school. I think a fresh, young face will help with recruiting and be able to more easily motivate the players.
I hope I’m right about this.
by COJOMAY on Jan 21, 2009 4:20 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
I don't mean to be a downer...
but I’m wondering if there’s been any discussion about the pros and cons of putting $ into a practice facility when times are so tough, especially for the university? I’m not pretending to be an authority here, and I know men’s basketball is a money maker for the university (at least I assume it is?). But what with the hiring freeze, ever increasing tuition, etc., well, from a certain perspective this must definitely seem like a non-necessary expense. Thoughts?
by plinytheelder on Jan 21, 2009 7:13 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
I believe I read all the money...
…is going to be raised from private sources. No tax dollars or university dollars will be spent directly.
by COJOMAY on Jan 21, 2009 8:44 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
It pays ...
… to invest in your practice facilities, especially for major dollar college sports. Better training, nutrition, preparation means better athletes, means more wins, means more attendance, more scholarships, more donations to the school (across all departments), means more television appearances, means more money.
It’s the main reason why I don’t get why Minnesota won’t build a Vikings stadium. That would pump a billion dollars into the local construction community, would provide thousands of jobs (given that Obama is promoting infrastructure work, doesn’t a football stadium count?), the State could own the stadium, take the revenues and use it as a profit-generating tool. There’s no reason why Minnesota needs to give the park to Wilf – we can keep it, like TCF, and reap the benefits.
by JG2112 on Jan 21, 2009 10:44 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
all excelent points BUT
the state will not own the stadium. no owner will agree to that. The county is building the Twins stadium and paid for 2/3 of it, but the Pohlad’s “own” it.
what you say here can, and will, be used against you
by GopherNation on Jan 21, 2009 11:38 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
thanks...
I’m a bit cynical regarding some of these points – again, I don’t understand all of this, but does having this separate practice facility really mean “better training, nutrition, preparation” as you say? I don’t really see why. I do understand the next points you make – i.e. that it would attract better athletes, which would lead to more wins, more attendance, more $. (Then again, Tubby’s been doing just fine with recruiting without the facility.)
Regarding the money being raised from private sources – OK, and thanks for the clarification. But then a different kind of conversation would logically ensue – i.e. how about this private-source money going to education rather than a practice facility? I get that it’s easier to sell donors on Tubby Smith than, say, German Idealism or comparative education policy, but I still think it’s a valid question.
Don’t get me wrong, I’m not trying to be anti-sports, it would be hypocritical of me to do so given that I’m kind of a sports junkie. And as I said above, I realize that men’s BB is a money-maker for the U…and hence any investment now should be judged not only on immediate costs, but future profits. I just think it’s important to raise these points in a non-knee-jerk manner. I spend a lot of time at the U, and I can’t tell you how often, in the last few months, I’ve heard very resentful comments about all the money going to sports during a financial crisis. Part of the reason I’m posting is that I’m still trying to figure out how I feel about it all.
by plinytheelder on Jan 22, 2009 12:53 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

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