Gophers head to Penn State - OFFICIAL GAME THREAD
by GopherNation on Oct 17, 2009 2:00 PM CDT
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Minnesota Golden Gophers at Penn St. Nittany Lions, Oct 17, 2009 2:36 PM CDT
All I know is that the Gophers are 5-2 in their last seven games against the Nittany Lions. Looks like Iowa and Minnesota enjoy dominance over Paterno's boys. In all seriousness, this is clearly a massive challenge but Penn State has their holes as well. If the Gophers can take advantage of a few things while not getting taken advantage of, maybe we can pull out this upset.
- Special Teams - more and more this appears to be the one area that the Gophers have a clear advantage. It is more than just relying on the hope of getting a touchdown out of Troy Stoudermire. The field position battle will be huge. Kickoff coverage needs to force Penn State into 70+ drives all day (assuming we get more than a couple kick-offs) and Stoudermire/Thomas getting the Gophers to the 40 on a regular basis will be significant. And a touchdown out of the special forces would obviously be HUGE.
- Weber/Decker vs. the Penn State secondary - the Nittany Lion's secondary isn't going to be the best secondary we face all year. Decker will be their defensive focus but I'm not convinced they'll be able to stop him. What will stop him is mediocre play from his quarterback so offensively the game may rest on Adam Weber. He has to get Decker the ball and more importantly he needs to find other receivers if Decker is blanketed. I fully expect JoPa to go with the "don't let Eric Decker beat us" strategy. Like I said I'm not convinced they'll be able to stop him without selling the farm. But when they do put too much emphasis on Decker, Weber HAS to find other guys to hurt them.
- Slow down the PSU Offense - Penn State is very talented offensively. I'm not expecting to shut them down or force them to do anything. What we have to do is make them earn every yard they get. Force them into as many third downs as possible. This is kind of what happened in the Air Force game and the Cal game (sans the first quarter). Make them earn third down conversions, sooner or later they will stop themselves with a penalty or the percentages will just catch up with them. Big plays will kill us, make them work for their drives and points.
All of this HAS to be done (and more) if we want to stay in this. The Penn State front 7 is VERY good so I'm not expecting a strong game on the ground. But their secondary is young, their offensive line is young and they haven't exactly put all of their talent together yet. The Gophers need their most complete game of the year but this one isn't completely out of reach.
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Clearly OSU is looking past Purdue
to the Minn game next week
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by GopherNation on Oct 17, 2009 2:08 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
You can't spell
Buckeyes
without
suck.
YES.
by JG2112 on Oct 17, 2009 2:19 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
the Michigan man
pipes up.
The OSU thread wasn’t too happy with my suggestion that they were looking ahead to us. :)
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by GopherNation on Oct 17, 2009 2:20 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
If they can't handle the Purdue D-Line
what will they possibly be able to do against Kirksey, Small, and McKinley and our LBs?
FWIW, Michigan had 720 yards today. Unreal number.
by JG2112 on Oct 17, 2009 2:23 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
but dammit
Minnesota’s gonna get the backlash.
by JG2112 on Oct 17, 2009 2:19 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Will Channel 5 cut away from the Texas game at 2:30?
Buck Bravo
by Buck Bravo on Oct 17, 2009 2:23 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Thanks. I was worried for a minute.
Buck Bravo
by Buck Bravo on Oct 17, 2009 2:24 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
BTW, supposedly 8 inches of snow in Happy Valley. See my preview – this affects the fan craziness.
by JG2112 on Oct 17, 2009 2:25 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
“I applaud Bob Stoops for being true to who he is?”
Kirk “Oprah” Herbstreit everyone.
by JG2112 on Oct 17, 2009 2:26 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Good one. I used to like Matt Millen's comments before he went to Detroit.
“He used his vision to see the defense.”
Buck Bravo
by Buck Bravo on Oct 17, 2009 2:27 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Always my favorite – “this guy likes to play football.”
Thank God.
by JG2112 on Oct 17, 2009 2:28 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Predictions for the other games?
Nebraska wins, USC wins, Florida wins in a squeaker over Arkansas.
by JG2112 on Oct 17, 2009 2:29 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I don't know much about Nebraska,
but I’ll take Florida over Arkansas. USC should destroy Notre Dame. Barkley is phenomenal.
Buck Bravo
by Buck Bravo on Oct 17, 2009 2:30 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
BTW, I don’t think Howard Griffith can finish a sentence or thought without including the verbal crutch, “You talk about……..”
by JG2112 on Oct 17, 2009 2:30 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
"Adam Weber is a guy who can create also with his legs." Classic announcing.
Buck Bravo
by Buck Bravo on Oct 17, 2009 2:32 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
after
he had just said “Why is Eric Decker so good: he doesn’t run particularly well.”
Buck Bravo
by Buck Bravo on Oct 17, 2009 2:33 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
And we are blacked out of the ESPN coverage if you live in the Twin Cities Area..You have to wait till the end of OU-Texas
by TonyO on Oct 17, 2009 2:32 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I'm getting coverage so far...cross your fingers
Buck Bravo
by Buck Bravo on Oct 17, 2009 2:34 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I have Dish Network and it says i'm blacked out
by TonyO on Oct 17, 2009 2:34 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
ESPN alternate channel is showing it for me.
by JG2112 on Oct 17, 2009 2:35 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Texas DB with a spectacular INT.
And I have to mention it again – OHIO STATE LOST TO 1-5 PURDUE. TERRELLE PRYOR LOL have fun turning into a pocket passer with Tressel young man.
by JG2112 on Oct 17, 2009 2:34 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Pryor's passing has always looked a little bit goofy to me
Buck Bravo
by Buck Bravo on Oct 17, 2009 2:36 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Pryor made the wrong decision last year – Oregon, Michigan, or Penn State would have developed him better. Seems to me Dennis Dixon, Pat White and (random PSU QB) have turned out alright.
by JG2112 on Oct 17, 2009 2:37 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Dammit Wills.
As to Millen’s comment, WHAT TEAM wants to be in 3rd and long?
by JG2112 on Oct 17, 2009 2:37 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I'll watch a game just to listen to Millen
Buck Bravo
by Buck Bravo on Oct 17, 2009 2:38 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I still can’t get 2001-2008 out of my head, as a Lions fan.
He is good and smart though. I’m working through it.
by JG2112 on Oct 17, 2009 2:40 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ha. The returning LB star with the personal foul.
by JG2112 on Oct 17, 2009 2:39 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
What an absolutely terrible throw into double coverage.
by JG2112 on Oct 17, 2009 2:39 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Ouch. Big break and then a letdown
Buck Bravo
by Buck Bravo on Oct 17, 2009 2:40 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
TonyO, there is no chance Gray could be successful against this defense.
by JG2112 on Oct 17, 2009 2:40 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
not about him being successful
its about him getting some in game time. Weber is just awful and better not start next year.
by Jeffdu on Oct 17, 2009 2:42 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Gray probably isn't ready to play,
and the only other option would be the freshman Alipate. As much as I’d like to see Gray, I don’t want to see his confidence shattered early on in his tenure.
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by Buck Bravo on Oct 17, 2009 2:42 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I hope so. Who is the third string?
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by Buck Bravo on Oct 17, 2009 2:43 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hes also a freshman
i believe from eden prairie
by Jeffdu on Oct 17, 2009 2:44 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Alipate is redshirting. If he doesn’t redshirt there is no separation between him and Gray, and then it would be 100% one would transfer.
by JG2112 on Oct 17, 2009 2:43 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
So maybe Purdue isnt that bad
Looks like we got a shot at OSU next week.
by Jeffdu on Oct 17, 2009 2:43 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Iowa scares me. Before last season I used to think Ferentz's days were numbered. Boy was I wrong.
Buck Bravo
by Buck Bravo on Oct 17, 2009 2:45 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Ferentz is the best coach in the Big Ten
one of the best in the country.
by Jeffdu on Oct 17, 2009 2:45 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I agree. His players are so well coached.
Buck Bravo
by Buck Bravo on Oct 17, 2009 2:46 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Jeffdu – no chance against Ohio State next week. Not in the Horseshoe. And, I don’t think Ohio State has lost back-to-back regular season games in 7 years.
by JG2112 on Oct 17, 2009 2:45 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
yup
OSU used their mulligan this week, they’ll be fired up next week.
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by GopherNation on Oct 17, 2009 2:46 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
They also havent lost a road game in awhile until today
We are better then Purdue and OSU has a horrible offense.
by Jeffdu on Oct 17, 2009 2:46 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Buck – credit to you. You predicted them to be 10-2, I think you’re spot on, and maybe underrating them.
by JG2112 on Oct 17, 2009 2:46 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I'll be honest:
I saw it as a toss-up between PSU, OSU, and Iowa and took Iowa to be a little different.
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by Buck Bravo on Oct 17, 2009 2:47 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
There's no blocking. Seantrel sure would change this team.
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by Buck Bravo on Oct 17, 2009 2:46 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
USC’s left tackle is a senior. Where do you go?
by JG2112 on Oct 17, 2009 2:46 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Minnesota i want my states team to get better.
by Jeffdu on Oct 17, 2009 2:47 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Good for you. Is that good for Seantrel, is the question.
You get drafted at USC as a backup. You get warm weather. Los Angeles. I know what I would do. I’m just being realistic. I want him at TCF. If I were him I wouldn’t play there over USC.
by JG2112 on Oct 17, 2009 2:48 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
And, of course, Taylor Lewan is in Seantrel’s path in Ann Arbor. : )
By the way, I’m of the belief Jeff Wills is on Minnesota’s line because the Gophers missed out on Lewan. Oh well.
by JG2112 on Oct 17, 2009 2:47 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
JUCOs can be like the cans of "Stop leak" that you pour in your engine when leaking oil.
Buck Bravo
by Buck Bravo on Oct 17, 2009 2:49 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Absolutely. The only sad thing is that by the time they figure it out, they’ve only got one year left (I’m thinking of Wills, Carpenter, Simmons and Lawrence in particular).
by JG2112 on Oct 17, 2009 2:50 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think they are putting together a good recruiting class though
if we get Beau and Sentreal it will put this class in the top 25 for 2 out of 3 years.
by Jeffdu on Oct 17, 2009 2:50 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Hold on. After Minnesota’s 2008 class was recalibrated, it was in the 30s, plus, don’t forget only 23 of those 31 dudes are around.
by JG2112 on Oct 17, 2009 2:53 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
getting PSU to 3rd down
is critical, none of those 15 yard runs. Get them to 3rd down.
YES, like that!
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by GopherNation on Oct 17, 2009 2:51 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Defense isn't looking too bad
Buck Bravo
by Buck Bravo on Oct 17, 2009 2:51 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Yeah Texas
Hasnt looked that good though. That game was pure ugly.
by Jeffdu on Oct 17, 2009 2:55 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
:)
all his fault
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by GopherNation on Oct 17, 2009 2:55 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Nice pass to Green on that one. Good blocking too.
Buck Bravo
by Buck Bravo on Oct 17, 2009 2:56 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
This line just gets zero push
I thought Davis was a good Oline coach.
by Jeffdu on Oct 17, 2009 2:56 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
If they can't run against PSU's big front four it could get ugly.
Buck Bravo
by Buck Bravo on Oct 17, 2009 2:57 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I'll tell you now
they can’t
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by GopherNation on Oct 17, 2009 2:58 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
MN will not be able to run effectively on the PSU front
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by GopherNation on Oct 17, 2009 2:59 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Play calling is questionable so far
they keep trying these diversion plays but dont get it moving. They need to push down field not move sideways.
by Jeffdu on Oct 17, 2009 2:58 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
agreed
that last bubble was pretty obvious
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by GopherNation on Oct 17, 2009 2:58 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
They need a pick six to get the momentum turned around
Buck Bravo
by Buck Bravo on Oct 17, 2009 3:00 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
YES
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by GopherNation on Oct 17, 2009 3:00 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
There just really isnt any top teams in CFB this year
no team has looked great.
by Jeffdu on Oct 17, 2009 3:00 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
in Big Ten
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by GopherNation on Oct 17, 2009 3:01 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
in all of CFB
Florida hasnt even played a good team yet and looks very beatable. Texas finally plays a team and looks ugly. Bama is the closest thing to a NC caliber team but they have question marks too.
by Jeffdu on Oct 17, 2009 3:02 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
bubble screens
I don’t think we’ve thrown a successful one all season. Fisch needs to take it out.
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by PJS on Oct 17, 2009 3:01 PM CDT via mobile reply actions 0 recs
or adjust how we run them
that last one was slow and Stommes was unable to make a block on a corner
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by GopherNation on Oct 17, 2009 3:02 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
great blitz
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by GopherNation on Oct 17, 2009 3:03 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
"We have liquid sunshine up here."
What did Millen mean by that?
Buck Bravo
by Buck Bravo on Oct 17, 2009 3:03 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I think he meant
NFL teams should draft ONLY receivers
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by GopherNation on Oct 17, 2009 3:04 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Theret has played well this year,
but he won’t keep up with receivers like that guy.
Buck Bravo
by Buck Bravo on Oct 17, 2009 3:05 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
OK, seriously
how did OSU not run the ball on Purdue up and down the field?
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by GopherNation on Oct 17, 2009 3:08 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
cause they stink
Prior is overrated and Tressel is so obvious with his play calling and too conervative.
by Jeffdu on Oct 17, 2009 3:10 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'll take a forced FG
defense is playing alright, just a couple big plays.
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by GopherNation on Oct 17, 2009 3:09 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Penn St will get 3 FGs and a TD
Minnesota will get 2 TDS and 2 FGS. 20-16
by Jeffdu on Oct 17, 2009 3:11 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
GD penalties!!!
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by GopherNation on Oct 17, 2009 3:17 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
that was a hit
wow
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by GopherNation on Oct 17, 2009 3:18 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
How do you block number 11? He looks like Lawrence Taylor.
Buck Bravo
by Buck Bravo on Oct 17, 2009 3:19 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
These False starts are inexcusible
They arnt even close to being in sequence.
by Jeffdu on Oct 17, 2009 3:22 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
freaking penalties
I know the offense was bad on all three plays, but starting 1st and 15 is impossible
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by GopherNation on Oct 17, 2009 3:24 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Man our LBs need to get better at finishing RBs
They have a lot tackles this year but have missed a lot letting guys get 3 or more yards after first contact.
by Jeffdu on Oct 17, 2009 3:25 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Floridas down in the 2nd
ND USC tied. There is more parity in College then in the Pros its weird.
by Jeffdu on Oct 17, 2009 3:26 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
no pressure from the DL
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by GopherNation on Oct 17, 2009 3:27 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
DL is looking slow and weak early
LBs overrunning and not finishing.
by Jeffdu on Oct 17, 2009 3:28 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
defense is getting worked over this drive
on our heals
missing tackles
not getting off blocks
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by GopherNation on Oct 17, 2009 3:30 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Field position
let’s get 7 here!
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by GopherNation on Oct 17, 2009 3:31 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
one big play
PLEASE
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by GopherNation on Oct 17, 2009 3:32 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Traye Simmons is overrated
He cant shed blocks at all
by Jeffdu on Oct 17, 2009 3:32 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
neither of our corners can tackle
but at least last year they could cover
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by GopherNation on Oct 17, 2009 3:34 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
liked that call
terrible pass, damn it
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by GopherNation on Oct 17, 2009 3:32 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
lucky that wasnt a pick 6
NTA should of had that screen a couple of plays ago though it was setup with all the guys bearing down on weber.
by Jeffdu on Oct 17, 2009 3:36 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
better pass
and that was a first down
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by GopherNation on Oct 17, 2009 3:35 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Finnally fliped the field position
I think that was a bad spot though the official kept scuffling his feet further from the first down before he spoted it.
by Jeffdu on Oct 17, 2009 3:36 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
im holding out hope that the gray era begins on the next drive.
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by PJS on Oct 17, 2009 3:37 PM CDT via mobile reply actions 0 recs
don't hold your breath
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by GopherNation on Oct 17, 2009 3:37 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I just got back from picking up JG21Daughter from a birthday party.
The Notre Dame radio broadcast is the most biased, ridiculous broadcast in the history of history.
On USC’s touchdown you’d have thought JFK was just shot again. When Notre Dame scored it was the greatest playcall from an NFL-level head coach. Eat me.
by JG2112 on Oct 17, 2009 3:38 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Of course
You need a three and out and give up a 15 yard pass.
by Jeffdu on Oct 17, 2009 3:39 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Clark's best pass of the day
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by GopherNation on Oct 17, 2009 3:41 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Simmons beat again
man get your head around.
by Jeffdu on Oct 17, 2009 3:40 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
new nickname
Big every other Play Traye
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by GopherNation on Oct 17, 2009 3:42 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Why does it seem like this team is unprepared to play today
by Jeffdu on Oct 17, 2009 3:43 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
really?
the defense has been OK and the offense is up against a really good defense.
we are getting beat but I don’t think it looks like being unprepared, maybe just me
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by GopherNation on Oct 17, 2009 3:44 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
gotta finish on 3rd and 6
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by GopherNation on Oct 17, 2009 3:43 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
move along
no replay
there’s nothing to see here
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by GopherNation on Oct 17, 2009 3:45 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
A couple other USC - ND thoughts
(1) The Song Girls are true professionals. Short skirts in the 40s in South Bend. So, if it’s cold in September in TCF next year, no worries.
(2) Pete Carroll is 58. WTF?
by JG2112 on Oct 17, 2009 3:47 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Hear that? Thousands of students didn’t go to the game today because of the weather.
by JG2112 on Oct 17, 2009 3:49 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
how about a holding call?
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by GopherNation on Oct 17, 2009 3:53 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
anyone go to Tubby's tipoff last night?
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by GopherNation on Oct 17, 2009 3:49 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I didn’t GN. I was thinking of going to Borton’s thing tomorrow.
by JG2112 on Oct 17, 2009 3:50 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
head over to BHGP and give a full report of that woud you?
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by GopherNation on Oct 17, 2009 3:53 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Second time we got helped out on a hold call
Triplett has to make that tackle in the backfield. Just like Campbell needed to vs Clay. Poor tackling and penalties show bad coaching.
by Jeffdu on Oct 17, 2009 3:54 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
that sucks
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by GopherNation on Oct 17, 2009 3:56 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
91 yard drive
I’m curious how many third downs they converted
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by GopherNation on Oct 17, 2009 3:57 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
this half is really on the offense
I know PSU’s D is good but we need more than 40 yards of offense.
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by GopherNation on Oct 17, 2009 4:00 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
we have too many slow developing plays
anyone else agree with that?
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by GopherNation on Oct 17, 2009 4:00 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Oh i totally agree
they need quick plays so the speed on the team has time to react before the defenders are on top of them. If you give your speed players some space they can make plays.
by Jeffdu on Oct 17, 2009 4:02 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Just when you think the Offense couldnt get any worse
They throw up 38 in the first half.
by Jeffdu on Oct 17, 2009 4:01 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
20 plays on offense? That’s kind of on the defense as well.
But all I need is 20 – 0 for the Gophers to accurately nail my prediction.
by JG2112 on Oct 17, 2009 4:01 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
defense has missed some tackles but they've make PSU go on long drives and convert third downs
clearly PSU has more talent but at least the defense is making them work. The offense is giving the PSU defense a day off
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by GopherNation on Oct 17, 2009 4:04 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
The Notre Dame Ticker presented by Liberty Mutual.
Their arrogance just drives me nuts.
by JG2112 on Oct 17, 2009 4:07 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Is this really a talent diparity
I dont think so. I think its a coach game planing and getting your team ready to play disparity. When will Brewster and the staff learn to actually coach or can we get some people who do know how to. I never here Brewster say anything about the game hes in or what coming up. Its always next year or i like to recruit but it is all BS. The truth is if you want players like Henderson or Floyd or so on to come to Minnesota Walk the Walk dont talk the talk. He can try to falsely pump himself and his vision all he wants but ill take a guy that proves it on the field. If he wants the best recruits he should worry about who hes currently playing and not about recruiting during the season. Beating teams like PSU OSU would go a longer way in getting recruits then anything he can say.
by Jeffdu on Oct 17, 2009 4:12 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
If you look at Buck Bravo’s assessment yesterday of the talent on MN and PSU, the disparity is not that drastic. The question as usual is, who develops players better?
I wouldn’t take much out of this first half. Let’s see what happens after the break before melting down.
by JG2112 on Oct 17, 2009 4:15 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah i saw the breakdown
and it was even closer then i thought it would be. I knew it was fairly close though. The problem is the ineptitude of our offense. I mean really 38 yards. You look again at the 2010 classes coming in and Minnesota depending on a few of the last major targets they have should finish somewhere between 20th and 35th in the nation in recruiting. We have good QBs supposedly recruiting wise behind Weber if the dude cant get it done why stick with a Mason recruit when your job is on the line. Even if Gray totally blows up and we get killed 42-0 by the end it would be better then watching Weber fumble around out there for the 3rd year in a row. I mean really do they plan to play Weber next year too. I wish he was a senior so they would have no choice next year.
by Jeffdu on Oct 17, 2009 4:21 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I like what you are saying
after three years the talk of his vision needs to start coming to fruition. But clearly the PSU defense is more talented than our offense.
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by GopherNation on Oct 17, 2009 4:22 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
All I will say is this -
Joel Maturi should privately meet with Brian Kelly and Tony Dungy on November 23rd (provided MN finishes 6-6 or worse), and offer a blank cheque to either of them. If he can get either to bite, fire Brewster.
Tony Dungy would have had Floyd and Seantrel’s commitments to MN before their senior years of high school. He has that great of a reputation.
by JG2112 on Oct 17, 2009 4:18 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
No way
Dungy is coming here. He is done coaching for the rest of his life.
by rencito on Oct 17, 2009 4:23 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
No way no one knows that for sure. If anyone could bring him back, the alma mater would be it.
by JG2112 on Oct 17, 2009 4:26 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
He has said repeatedly
he is done with coaching. He has nothing left to achieve in his career. He is done. Like Barry Sanders. Just done with football.
by rencito on Oct 17, 2009 4:27 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Completely Outmatched
Our offense looks inept and the defense is bending and now starting to break.
This one will probably get ugly early on in the second half. If so, we should see Gray get some series to himself.
by rencito on Oct 17, 2009 4:22 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
that was a fumble
I know we weren’t going to get the ball but a what point will the refs start getting these calls right?
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by GopherNation on Oct 17, 2009 4:25 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Are the Lions
actually out penaltying us?
by rencito on Oct 17, 2009 4:26 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Clark had all day
I mean all day. He literally could have eaten a sandwich back there.
by rencito on Oct 17, 2009 4:29 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
this must be our defense
“making them” convert third downs again.
by KENtastic on Oct 17, 2009 4:29 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
not sure what is worse...our tackling or matt millen's color commentary
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by PJS on Oct 17, 2009 4:31 PM CDT via mobile reply actions 0 recs
our tackling is worse
BUT
Matt Millen’s drafting ability is worse than our tackling
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by GopherNation on Oct 17, 2009 4:31 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
That view of Beaver Stadium doesn’t make it look so big.
by JG2112 on Oct 17, 2009 4:31 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
AND THAT'S ANOTHER GOLDEN GOPHER...
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by GopherNation on Oct 17, 2009 4:32 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Millen is the absolute worst
I said that well before he was the GM of the Detroit Lions. I absolutely loathed when he was assigned to Vikings games. I have no idea why talking heads think he is so great. He is awful.
by rencito on Oct 17, 2009 4:32 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Millen is so bad
it’s fun to listen to him.
Buck Bravo
by Buck Bravo on Oct 17, 2009 4:34 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Wow. Weber and Decker screwed up. Can’t tell who that was on – Decker had plenty of open space to the edge.
by JG2112 on Oct 17, 2009 4:34 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
just not on the same page
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by GopherNation on Oct 17, 2009 4:34 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
What really frustrates me
is year after year after year,other Big 10 schools seem to find a way to win a game,and I mean REALLY WIN a game when they’re not expected to…like Purdue today. We lose games we’re supposed to lose,we get upset in games we’re picked to win,we lose tossup games in new and creative ways,we get outright embarrassed in games. This year,even at 4-2,the Gophers are,at best,lacklustre. Too many of coach Brew’s recruits never make it to campus,and,overall,next year’s recruiting class appears to be a big step backwards.Too many coaching changes. Too many changes in philosophy.About the ONLY positive I’ve seen this year is halftime ajustments on defense.
by mahogma66 on Oct 17, 2009 4:35 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Fair points. My biggest qualm is that Minnesota never pulls an upset. The last big one, I think, was in this stadium, 10 years ago.
by JG2112 on Oct 17, 2009 4:37 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Minnesota was 4-1, Michigan was 3-2 when they played.
Both teams finished 7-5.
That wasn’t an upset.
by JG2112 on Oct 17, 2009 4:41 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
PSU 10 years ago
That was a last-second field goal,after a miracle catch on a deflected pass. Actually,the Goph’s were more deserving the previous year(?) when Hamner fumbled,and PSU got several favorable calls.
by mahogma66 on Oct 17, 2009 4:45 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
MARQUIES GRAY PLEASE
That weber pass on third down was abysmal.
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by PJS on Oct 17, 2009 4:35 PM CDT via mobile reply actions 0 recs
BTW.
Hampton lost 45-6 today. Johnathan Ragoo was given a lifeline by Minnesota.
by JG2112 on Oct 17, 2009 4:36 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
can't do that, Joe
surprised you didn’t know that
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by GopherNation on Oct 17, 2009 4:37 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
time to blitz on third and long
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by GopherNation on Oct 17, 2009 4:38 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Has the TOP been about 12 minutes for MN? That’s the problem with hurry up about 10 minutes ago – if it doesn’t work your defense is put out on the ledge.
by JG2112 on Oct 17, 2009 4:39 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Darryl Clark blocked in the back. That was an obvious missed call on Royster.
by JG2112 on Oct 17, 2009 4:40 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Another 3rd down conversion coming up for PSU
by rencito on Oct 17, 2009 4:42 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Might want to copy and paste this one.
by JG2112 on Oct 17, 2009 4:43 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
what more do we expect from the defense?
we aren’t going to STOP PSU, but the offense going three and out every time is killing our chances.
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by GopherNation on Oct 17, 2009 4:43 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
prediction ... the gophers never win a trophy game with adam weber playing qb
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by PJS on Oct 17, 2009 4:44 PM CDT via mobile reply actions 0 recs
TOP
Minn – 11+
PSU – 23+
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by GopherNation on Oct 17, 2009 4:44 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
first downs
PSU – 17
Minn – 1
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by GopherNation on Oct 17, 2009 4:44 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
sorry
PSU – 17
Minn – 3
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by GopherNation on Oct 17, 2009 4:44 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I have to say, I’m very pleased that Carter is playing and that Collado is not. Again, someone is reading TDG over in Bierman.
by JG2112 on Oct 17, 2009 4:44 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
total plays?
PSU – 56 (ish)
Minn – 24
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by GopherNation on Oct 17, 2009 4:45 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I’m not sure that Clark crossed the goal line there, and there was no reason why that wasn’t reviewed.
by JG2112 on Oct 17, 2009 4:46 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
offense has to get SOMETHING going
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by GopherNation on Oct 17, 2009 4:46 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
We don't look like
we belong in the same conference as PSU.
by rencito on Oct 17, 2009 4:47 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Decker with 1 catch in almost 5 quarters
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by GopherNation on Oct 17, 2009 4:48 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Somebody earlier this season told me he’d prefer Brewster over Rodriguez as their coach. I’m watching these two Penn State games (this week and next) to test the theory on who is a better in-game technician.
And, I know they played Delaware State, but I want to mention that Michigan had 720 total yards today. That’s the most, EVER, in their program. Their fourth-string running back had 166 yards on 17 carries. The NCAA’s Division I-A scheduling policy is a disgrace.
by JG2112 on Oct 17, 2009 4:49 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I am a Weber backer / apologist
but Gray might at the very least wake him up a little bit.
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by GopherNation on Oct 17, 2009 4:49 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I used to be on your side
I’m not anymore. It is time to make a change. The offense needs to be better.
by rencito on Oct 17, 2009 4:50 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
But wait, is the offense’s inadequacy due to Weber, or is it due to Fisch’s constraints on his style of play? He’s forced to play with cinder blocks on his feet.
He was a fantastic QB last year. Obviously Dunbar knew how to use him and Fisch doesn’t. How’s that Weber’s fault?
by JG2112 on Oct 17, 2009 4:51 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
It isn't the play calling
It is the execution…that being said, there was finally a good throw by Weber.
by rencito on Oct 17, 2009 4:53 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't think Gray does anything more (in fact he'd do less)
to get this offense moving, but maybe Weber would get his head out of his ass
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by GopherNation on Oct 17, 2009 4:50 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Weber is doing nothing
Gray can’t do worse than that.
by rencito on Oct 17, 2009 4:51 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Has Gray been in yet at all today? I don’t recall seeing him.
by JG2112 on Oct 17, 2009 4:50 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
he handed off on a wildcat in the 1st quarter
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by GopherNation on Oct 17, 2009 4:50 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
?
I HATE second-guessers and armchair experts( Danny B on "the FAN "makes me wanna puke) but coach Brew has left me lost today. WTF???
by mahogma66 on Oct 17, 2009 4:51 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
And gentleman, that was a Dunbar call.
And MarQueis Gray could never make that throw.
by JG2112 on Oct 17, 2009 4:54 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I agree
but a wakeup call is needed sometimes
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by GopherNation on Oct 17, 2009 4:54 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Weber's lack of running
has nothing to do with the offensive ineptitude. Weber hardly ran at all last year.
I agree that we have no idea what Gray can do. He is probably a much better option QB than he is a throwing QB.
But we are at the point where Weber isn’t making his throws. Something needs to be done.
BTW…where has Whaley been today? I know he has a few carries, but very few.
by rencito on Oct 17, 2009 4:57 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Okay, Tom Bradley (PSU D-Coord) said it’s hard to game plan against MN because they have a different plan each week based on who they’re playing.
This doesn’t equate with Brewster’s admonition that “we are a hard nosed running team.” It also can explain why Weber is uncomfortable – he’s being forced to learn new game plans each week instead of learning plays and repeating them into the ground.
Sorry, you guys know my point of comparison – that “weak spread based offense” Michigan runs 9 rushing plays. They were 17th nationally, and had 470 yards rushing today. That’s because they run their stuff and get used to their stuff, not worrying about the other guys.
by JG2112 on Oct 17, 2009 4:58 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
it does jive with what they said when Fisch was first hired
that they’d run an offense that attacked a defense’s weaknesses
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by GopherNation on Oct 17, 2009 5:00 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
You either defend the rush bad, or the pass bad. Fisch isn’t novel is attacking that as an OC. However, if you have a good rushing attack, you can run on anyone, and then the passing game opens up.
by JG2112 on Oct 17, 2009 5:03 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
4 carries for Whaley, I think.
Florida losing 10-6 to Arkansas.
by JG2112 on Oct 17, 2009 4:59 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
not even close
but I bet PSU gets the ball at the 20
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by GopherNation on Oct 17, 2009 5:01 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Good grief. Good – I didn’t want Weber to have to deal with you guys on this one : )
by JG2112 on Oct 17, 2009 5:01 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
regardless of the replay
what a terrible officiating crew today, that never should have been called a fumble
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by GopherNation on Oct 17, 2009 5:02 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Oh well
This is why the NCAA is far better than the NFL. They get the calls right in the end. The replay system in the Big 10 is far superior to the NFL.
by rencito on Oct 17, 2009 5:03 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Boy Tebow just got a TD pass, and he underthrew it by about 20 yards. He has no chance as a legitimate passing QB.
by JG2112 on Oct 17, 2009 5:04 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
PSU defensive line vs. MINN offensive line
was the most game-changing difference in this game.
Buck Bravo
by Buck Bravo on Oct 17, 2009 5:05 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Whaley needs to cut it in
right behind the fullback block.
by Jeffdu on Oct 17, 2009 5:06 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Alright – if Fisch was hired because he attacks a defense’s weakness, can someone tell me why Decker wasn’t thrown to on a 1 on 1?
If I could bank on anything on a sweep, it would be that a Penn State LB would blow up a FB, and that Bowman would run something down.
by JG2112 on Oct 17, 2009 5:06 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Did Millen just honestly allude that SImoni Lawrence will be an NFL player? Really? Is it that clear cut?
by JG2112 on Oct 17, 2009 5:07 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I could see him on special teams...maybe
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by Buck Bravo on Oct 17, 2009 5:08 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Pathetic is the only word to describe this game
No reason to give him a day and a half to throw the ball all game what happened to the half time adjustments the D coaches did so well the first 4 games it went away the last 3 ill tell you that much.
by Jeffdu on Oct 17, 2009 5:08 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
That is why he failed
As a GM. Remember?
by rencito on Oct 17, 2009 5:08 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
That’s inadvertent. That’s crap. That’s terrible. That’s pathetic.
by JG2112 on Oct 17, 2009 5:11 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
not inadvertant
the guy tripped over his own feet
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by GopherNation on Oct 17, 2009 5:12 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Theret looks like an intramural player next to #6
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by Buck Bravo on Oct 17, 2009 5:12 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
agreed
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by GopherNation on Oct 17, 2009 5:12 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
ya holy crap
he gave up like what 8 inches.
by Jeffdu on Oct 17, 2009 5:13 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Def INTERFERENCE!
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by GopherNation on Oct 17, 2009 5:16 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
YAY a blitz on third down
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by GopherNation on Oct 17, 2009 5:18 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
On that note, Charlie Strong is coaching well against Mallett on CBS – 6/19 for Mallett. JG= sad.
by JG2112 on Oct 17, 2009 5:22 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
great pass there foe weber
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by PJS on Oct 17, 2009 5:23 PM CDT via mobile reply actions 0 recs
another next level comment
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by GopherNation on Oct 17, 2009 5:24 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Arkansas just scored
on a great step up throw by Mallett.
by Jeffdu on Oct 17, 2009 5:25 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
As i said before there is no top teams this year
just a jumble of ok teams.
by Jeffdu on Oct 17, 2009 5:31 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Unfortunately
Gopher’s aren’t even one of those
by mahogma66 on Oct 17, 2009 5:34 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Let 'em play!!!
Boise State and TCU. They are legit teams. Not saying they are the best, but they can play with the best.
by rencito on Oct 17, 2009 5:34 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yep. Mallett would’ve never worked out at Michigan, even though Lloyd Carr was going to kick him out of the program had he stayed.
by JG2112 on Oct 17, 2009 5:27 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Penn State defense is good
but we have stopped ourselves at least as much as they stopped us
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by GopherNation on Oct 17, 2009 5:30 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
How so?
It isn’t like we had a ton of penalties today or turned the ball over. We just plain cannot move the ball against them. They are just plain better. It is like we don’t belong in the same conference as PSU.
by rencito on Oct 17, 2009 5:31 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
play calling and bad throws
We took one shot downfield all day. Everyone knows that the PSU secondary is young and unproven, yet we never tied to test them.
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by GopherNation on Oct 17, 2009 5:45 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Akron and Temple
Managed to score points against PSU.
by rencito on Oct 17, 2009 5:36 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
total fail today for brewster, fisch and weber
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by PJS on Oct 17, 2009 5:41 PM CDT via mobile reply actions 0 recs
total fail today for brewster, fisch and weber
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by PJS on Oct 17, 2009 5:41 PM CDT via mobile reply actions 0 recs
Sad. Just sad.
The team wasn’t ready.
Next week should be MarQueis’s start. Ohio State’s defense is going to bait Weber into multiple mistakes, and we have no shot of winning the game after Ohio State was upset today.
And, if MarQueis isn’t going to play much next week or against Sparty, he should be put on transfer watch, because this offense does not suit his skills at all.
by JG2112 on Oct 17, 2009 5:42 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Can someone
come up with one positive out of this game bc I cannnot?? What is worse than “dismal?”
by Texas Gopher on Oct 17, 2009 5:49 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
usually I can
but we just played poorly
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by GopherNation on Oct 17, 2009 5:52 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I have not read one post before this
……But I am sure there is some dry humping of Adam Weber. I got a lot to say….and I take it when I deserve it ….step up is all I got to say
by DallasGopher on Oct 17, 2009 10:32 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Oh and Im negative
for calling for the kids..
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