Minnesota at Ohio State - OFFICIAL GAME THREAD
by GopherNation on Oct 24, 2009 11:06 AM CDT
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Minnesota Golden Gophers at Ohio St. Buckeyes, Oct 24, 2009 11:00 AM CDT
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sorry for the lateness
I have a crappy internet connection
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two dropped passes
the mulligan offense came to play today
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Why did we not rush the ball again?
Three straight incompletions? All we needed was 5 yards to get into FG range.
I've been up for 26 hours straight..this game has me psyched up
Because I have a bunch of friends who are cocky Ohio State Fans..would love for the gophers to beat them today
The level of stupidity on that opening offensive drive was unbelievable.
(1) Gray got a 25 yard rush. TEAR UP THE SCRIPT. Keep the successful player in the game. Guess what – the spread read worked, keep him in. That’s called coaching.
(2) Punting from the 32? Horsecrap. Throw a jump ball near the end zone. Best case – first down. Worst case – Ohio State downs the ball in the end zone or, exactly where they downed the punt.
Talk about having no confidence in your team. Punting from the 32. That is Gruden or Childress-esque.
Decker and Green not dropping passes
would have changed that series quite a bit. The plays were good calls and mostly executed.
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by GopherNation on Oct 24, 2009 11:19 AM CDT up reply actions
I disagree
coaching is not running the same thing you just ran because it worked once. Chances are OSU would have had a different defensive play call on the next play
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by GopherNation on Oct 24, 2009 11:20 AM CDT up reply actions
BTW an EPIC FAIL from the Pre-Game show
Lee Corso literally said the words “Blew their Wad” on TV
3rd down
once again is killing us. I love that we are forcing 3rd and 10, 3rd and 7 but get a freaking stop
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do not agree
field position battle is kind of overrated imo. had it been less than 10 I’m guessing they would have gone for it.
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by GopherNation on Oct 24, 2009 11:24 AM CDT up reply actions
nice hit
by Campbell.
LBs have played OK thus far
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pretty different situations
message was sent but 4th and 1 is different then 4th and 10 outside of the 30
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by GopherNation on Oct 24, 2009 11:26 AM CDT up reply actions
I thought Maresh redshirted last year? Maybe he’s playing the scout team this year and will take over for Campbell / Triplett next year – those LBs never leave the field.
I think Maresh is redshirting this year
Last year he was out due to his Heart Surgery…
2 comments
a) I just realized the “horse-shoe” isn’t even a horse shoe. Ohio State is dumb
b) somehow I’ve always missed this, can someone tell me what that face of a tattoo is on Lee Campbell’s left arm?
Defense
Got lucky but really what gives with this defense. Nothing changes from week to week. Every player on the team that gets to the QB goes high and whiffs every frikken time why cant they control their body. Our D gives up a way to high % of 3rd down and long conversions because of it and its extremely frustrating.
How the heck did he hurt himself on that
He has a glass ankle.
damn it
6 yards on 1st down and we have a stupid penalty
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No way they are doing quick developing plays and its working
hmmm who would of thought. Cant believe it took them that long.
no kidding
we run so many slow developing plays
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by GopherNation on Oct 24, 2009 11:34 AM CDT up reply actions
he was down
but who knows what they’ll call after review
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seriously
how is that not seen live? I know the game is fast but these guys are D1 refs
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Maybe it's not.
Maybe they would prefer to let a play finish organically, rather than calling a play dead before a review can confirm the correct call (I’m thinking Hochuli last year).
we'll keep you updated if you do
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by GopherNation on Oct 24, 2009 11:37 AM CDT up reply actions
anyone happy with this current drive?
best the offense has looked in a long time
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Best offense in two weeks
Cause they are running quick plays and getting set and going unstead of letting the D adjust to everything.
seriously though
he was down, rolled on his back the ball came out. terrible call
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disagree
this isn’t EA sports. OUtside teh 40 and 5 yards to go, you can’t give OSU that short of a field and a chance to gain confidence. They aren’t playing that well.
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by GopherNation on Oct 24, 2009 11:40 AM CDT up reply actions
third and 5
third and 5 and we throw a screen pass to a covered man going across the line? what the hell
c'mon
you can’t blame everything you see on Brewster so quickly
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by GopherNation on Oct 24, 2009 11:42 AM CDT up reply actions
no but becaus a player got hot doesn't mean Brewster has no control over his team
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by GopherNation on Oct 24, 2009 11:46 AM CDT up reply actions
WHOA
Stoudermire needs to calm down. That is concerning
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stoudamire is right
coach will figure it out later. problem solved
If Brewster has any control over his team and his players, Stoudermire should sit the rest of the game – or at least til halftime. No player should pull that shit on the sidelines.
You have no idea what was said
Heat of the moment a player is going to show some fire. I think it depends on what was said.
Wasnt Stoudermires fault
But you have to show discipline and respect for your coaches. That cant be tollerated.
Come on Refs are you kidding me
THis is BS so fucking stupid.
that sucks
terrible pass, excellent defense, BAILOUT
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OSU is beatable!
we need a big play on offense, if Decker is healthy let’s take a shot downfield
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Pryor’s HS coach is right – this is not the offense he should have picked to display his unique combination of skills.
Oregon, Penn State or Michigan would have been a much better choice by Pryor. He looks completely lost.
Can you imagine him in Rich Rods offense
the reason he want to stay away from the spread is its not favored by NFL teams and he wanted to play in an offense that would improve his ability to play in the NFL and his draft status.
So far
it is the botched fumble call, the phantom interference call, and the bad pass interference call.
Buck Bravo
JG
what time did you hear the TDG mention on 1500?
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It was
between 715 and 730 pm.
I laughed – he said, “The Daily Gopher, now, what is the Daily Gopher?”
Then he took your top 3 for Henderson as gospel.
Regarding Henderson
I’ve read he’s got about 4 factions controlling his recruitment. Get this – Michigan sent him a ticket for this weekend (I’ve yet to see if he’s there), and one of his handlers actually called Michigan and said, thanks, we’ll be there, but as a visitor for Penn State. Unreal.
He’s going to USC, MN or Ohio State.
Dang Allen is fast
we need to get him the ball. Take some shots this team rarely does.
huh
where did that come from. Alipate is redshirted anyway.
Yep.
Could you imagine Tebow and Pryor alternating? Pryor would’ve gotten time this year when Tebow got hurt, THOUGH, they’re really high on the Brantley kid.
Tebow is a TE
in the NFL
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by GopherNation on Oct 24, 2009 11:58 AM CDT up reply actions
We know he's good
with scissors in his hands when circumciziing Asian orphans. Why would a football be different?
score on this drive
get one stop and take a 7-0 lead into halftime
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Leave Gray in
so he can run for it if the pass isnt there
Thats an easy throw
Weber makes my blood boil. What a duche.
If this is when I think it is, that pass is the coaching staff's fault
Webber makes 2 very good passes for 30 yards in two plays and the put Gray in? No wonder the kid’s makes mental mistakes, he gets punished when he plays well.
lol
I love the bounce pass
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by GopherNation on Oct 24, 2009 11:59 AM CDT up reply actions
I'm teaching my daughter
the bounce pass right now.
She’s six. She’s 4’4". I’m 6’6". She wants to play basketball for the Gophers. I hope she does.
I though Traye wanted to play pro ball
I hope he knows arena football went out of business.
Good QBs dont bounce
6 yard passes on 3rd and 4.
being pulled and reinserted in the middle of a drive
Will do that.
LONG pass
BPT and Collado took the same guy on an out-route leaving the deep post wide open. Looks like it should have been BPT’s guy
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by GopherNation on Oct 24, 2009 12:18 PM CDT up reply actions
collado
i blame ryan collado. i’m sure he blew it somehow
well thats not really fair
our recievers really havent dropped many passes this year. We have some of the best wrs in college as far as hands go.
did that just bounce of his chest lmao
can i go play for the Gophers.
If Brewster is looking for something to turn the tide
TRY COACHING ASSHOLE. TELL YOUR PLAYERS TO THORW WELL AND CATCH AND QUICK COMMITTING PENALTIES YOU PIECE OF SHIT COACH.
Yeah only so much you can take
its the same thing every week.
thank goodness for pryor
that’s a touchdown if pryor was able to throw the ball well
My goodness, Pryor is just terrible in this offense.
Honestly, I’m really happy this guy is Ohio State’s QB this year. The Buckeye offense is just ridiculous.
You might be right.
Question though: who is quicker, Gray or Pryor? I cannot tell.
Pryor needs the Vince Young offense I talked about on Tuesday – here’s a wideout, if he’s covered, run.
Tough to go for it on 4th and 7
why give good field position esp with that offense.
Why don't we keep running it????
We get 6 on first down, which is a good pick up and then we piss it away with an incompletion.
Turn on the sarcasm
radar if you’re going to say stuff like that.
Don’t ask for injuries on this board.
I dont want him to be hurt
Only way they take him out though
weber isn't that bad
sorry to break everyone here but other than these last few games he’s been just fine. wobbly passes into the bread basket should still be caught.
trade all of those dropped passes for bad passes and he’s still doing fine
At least Pryor throws a spiral
Seriously how could you be a 3 year starter at a major D1 school and not be able to throw a spiral i mean seriously.
I still don't understand why we don't run more
We pick up 6-7 yards on first down and then throw incompletions to kill the drive
Some minnesota stats
114 in total offense. 115th in 3rd down defense %. 110th in rushing offense. 1st in whiffed sacks. worst time of possession in big 10. Another team to be pumped about.
kinda like weber
oh wait he would of been sacked by that Mckinney Whiff and we would of punted allready.
I lived there for 2.5 years...glad Im out of there...
The “Johnson” county Kansas attitude…lol…just an average suburb but they think its orange county CA.
by DallasGopher on Oct 24, 2009 12:39 PM CDT up reply actions
in there defense
they do that all 3 or 4 or whatever they have cities in the top 100 places to live. maybe thats just because i enjoy using their nice things, being a wyandotte county resident myself
favorite Griese comment of the day...
(while showing the NASCAR Sprint Cup top 5)
“Where’s Juan Pablo Montoya?…..perhaps he’s getting a taco”
i now recall why i felt confused after that comment, you reminded me what it was
the debate battles on
sexual reference or racist comment……so tough to decide
We are last in the Big 10
in pretty much every Offense stat there is. We are 10th in total defense. And only 3 teams have committed more penalties. Does this coaching staff know what they are doing
Even more reason to keep Weber...then we can see another BS article on here about how Weber is great
by DallasGopher on Oct 24, 2009 12:39 PM CDT up reply actions
A then some article about how Gray isnt ready
Well he couldnt possibly be worse. You cant go lower then last. Last in Yards Last in Rush yards. Last in TOP. 9th in Passing yards. 9th in PPG. Seriously how can you be worse.
i feel obligated to be the smartass....
they could be last in everything?…..
Last in 3rd downs and 3rd down conversion%
10th in 4th down and 4th down conversion % only cause Iowa is 0 for 1
Perhaps
these terrible stats and the coaching turnover this year proves that Brewster knows he’s got 2010 and 2011 to figure this out.
The only thing i can think of
Is they have been recruiting OLine hard the last 2 years and are waiting for these guys to play before they play Gray to much. They are using Weber as the punching bag with this Oline so Gray doesnt get hurt and are waiting to sign that back that will help him out. Too bad Calvin Phillips isnt a senior though cuz it doesnt look like we will get Williams we lost the two best backs we had a chance at to Oregon.
So, in 2011, who does the fanbase here think will be the best QB on his team?
Kevin Newsome at Penn State
Tate Forcier at Michigan
Terrelle Pryor at Ohio State
MarQueis Gray at Minnesota
Robert Marve at Purdue
I vote for Marve. Joey Elliott is the best QB in the conference right now, statistically, under a FIRST YEAR COACH. Marve will be very good.
I say Forcier
Dude will get bigger and his supporting cast is good and young.
just to elevate everyone's mood
you have to look on the bright side…..
we don’t have pam ward this week
If it wasn't for booze... I don't think I could watch this team.
D is consistent, but will get tired in the 2nd half and give up a couple more TDs because the O can’t move the ball. We’ve got a bunch of “fast” guys who can’t catch a freakin’ pass…
by Sir Tipsy McStagger of Minnesota on Oct 24, 2009 12:51 PM CDT reply actions
when Gray gets to play
and he looks like Pryor (good legs, missing wide open receivers all day) then will people realize that the offense sucks only in part because of the QB. The play-calling is terrible, penalties kill us, dropped passes have killed us today and the QB has been bad. Putting in a freshman will not solve our offensive woes. Taht is a fact
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Like i said you cant be worse then last
and thats what we are with Weber.
practice
everybody has to carry a ball around with them all week
Wonder how Stoudermire and his ST coach are going to get along after Stoudermire’s second half so far.
no kidding
he’ll get to experience the dog-house this week
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by GopherNation on Oct 24, 2009 1:04 PM CDT up reply actions
did anybody hear
that LeBron James is mentoring Pryor?
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Hey GN did you see that stat
Oh yeah we havnt scored in a game and a half and counting. Will you please stop protecting Weber all the time. Im not saying its all on him but alot of it is. Who cares if Gray does the same or worse atleast he is a Freshman and has a chance to grow and learn which Weber never does he is a 3rd year starter and has never improved.
sorry
I believe Weber gives us the best chance to win (period). Everyone assumes if one guy makes mistakes the guy who has zero experience will automatically make fewer.
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You are missing the point
Weber is a 3rd year starter and has never improved actually he regresses as the year goes on every year. Gray is our QB of the future give him a chance. We have allready proved we cant score with Weber so who cares if we cant score with Gray we dont even know if we can or not cause the coaches havnt played him enough yet.
After watching that series
Does anyone here actually believe we are better with Weber. Gray is averaging more per carry then Weber is per pass attempt.
Why would everyone shut up
Weber hasnt lead a scoring drive in like 7 quarters you cant flop worse then that.
Anyone here who thinks that Brewster would subvert his team by not playing the best QB is just not being rational.
Despite others here, I do not think Brewster has a blank cheque to develop the team, which was proven by his coordinator switches last year. He needs to win. He thinks Weber can do it.
exactly
if Gray gave his team a better chance to win, he would be in there.
This isn’t EA Sports, Brewster isn’t going to bench his upper-classmen, play his freshmen, give up on this year so he can win later.
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by GopherNation on Oct 24, 2009 1:16 PM CDT up reply actions
My only issue is alternating QBs snap by snap. I think Gray should get a SERIES, but throwing guys out there every other play is counterproductive.
I agree
The game is lost with the status quo. Give Gray one or two series to show fans what will happen. If he messes up, what’s the difference at this point anyways?
Buck Bravo
I'm not opposed to that
And last week I was all for making a switch to wake up Weber. But the attitude I’m disagreeing with is that is the answer to all of our offensive problems. In fact it answers nothing.
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by GopherNation on Oct 24, 2009 1:17 PM CDT up reply actions
The Weber era should end now.
Well, it should have ended a few weeks ago. But clearly this guy isn’t going to take us anywhere. Let’s let Gray take his lumps now.
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Nice
and everyone called me negative for not being a complete fucking idiot 5 weeks ago for calling Weber out…..Like I have always been saying get Gray some experience while you can….Weber flushed his career weeks ago.
by DallasGopher on Oct 24, 2009 1:20 PM CDT up reply actions
DG – Fisch has emasculated Weber. He was a fine QB last year, and now he’s bad. WHY? It’s Weber’s fault?
He’s not playing well. NO ONE on offense is, and without Decker on the field the offense is useless.
But, of course, Decker is a Mason recruit so what should we know right now about Brewster’s offensive development?
Thanks for the TD weber
oh wait you scored one for the Bucks.
OMG really?
I get that I’m up against it here. But just because we are losing to Penn State and Ohio State, on the road and looking terrible in the process. Does not make us the worst team in the country.
People are manic around here
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by GopherNation on Oct 24, 2009 1:24 PM CDT up reply actions
This team is on the fast track to the sewer
Good luck at getting another recruit thats even worth mentioning Brewster.
i feel bad for college football fans
that the gophers have had so many nat’l televised games this year.
We are making OSU look good
Boy are they awful but we shouldnt even have a football team. Might as well have a chemisty professor coach a bunch of business majors on the field couldnt be worse.
This team goes backwards on 1st and 2nd and then picks up
5 or 6 on third down every drive.
every time i look up from homework
we’re punting with our end zone on the screen
Well the D gave up
why try if your on the D. The O cant even get a 1st non the less a score.
Cheer up!
Next year,the Gopher’s can hire another OJT coach,and the hype can start all over again. Jezzo bezzo,at least Glen Mason came to Minnesota with some credibility and a BCS coaching history.
Pass interference yes. .... but horrible decision and footwork from weber.
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this is waht I'm talking about
he had a guy in his face immediately. he hit McKnight in the numbers.
He has been terrible for a while, but watch the actual play.
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by GopherNation on Oct 24, 2009 1:35 PM CDT up reply actions
the pass hit someone at the line. weber was not stable when he threw it.
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rewind it
he hit McKnight in the chest with a LB draping his back. And he less than 2 seconds to get rid of it.
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by GopherNation on Oct 24, 2009 1:37 PM CDT up reply actions
For those that follow the Twins ....
Nick Punto is to Ron Gardenhire as Adam Weber is to Tim Brewster?
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Griese needs to stop verbally stroking Brewster, it is completely contrary to everything actually happening on the field.
tru
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by GopherNation on Oct 24, 2009 1:35 PM CDT up reply actions
Why is he hiking the ball with 1 sec on play clock losing by 28
this team is confused
Is the guy online today who claimed in August there was no difference in coaching ability between Brewster and Rodriguez? I’d like to have a chat with him now.
Is the guy online
Who claimed that the Gophers would beat PennState? I’d like to have a chat with him now.
Or if they're down 28 points approaching the 4th quarter...
Regardless, they have never run a hurry-up in the last two years. Three possible reasons:
1) coaching philosophy believes the risk isn’t worth the reward
2) bad coaching
3) Weber needs time to think through the plays and can’t handle a hurry-up
Buck Bravo
That interception was clearly the o-lines fault (end snark)
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Weber sacks himself all the time
people blame the oline which isnt very good but you have to roll away from the pressure not towards it all the time.
Brew’s latest Tweet:
“You will be able to learn and see everything there is to know about Gopher Football!”
lol
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by GopherNation on Oct 24, 2009 1:45 PM CDT up reply actions
I just want OSU to score quick so we can watch Weber some more.
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how come osu players don't fall down when our guys brush up against them?
isn’t that cheating?
Now we are all watching to see if Weber can break the State record of 5 INTs by Daunte Culpepper
Buck Bravo
Culpepper
was another terrible QB who had one good year due to Moss, and then the coaches kept making excuses as to why he was awful
Buck Bravo
I dont want to see Gray noww
I want Weber to pad some more of his stats first. Maybe Brewster will shoot himself on the ride home.
Your getting what you wanted...Another Adam Weber gem....
by DallasGopher on Oct 24, 2009 1:49 PM CDT up reply actions
back off DG
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by GopherNation on Oct 24, 2009 1:49 PM CDT up reply actions
you can disagree all you want
but let’s not start calling people out because we disagreed.
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by GopherNation on Oct 24, 2009 1:50 PM CDT up reply actions
sure they are
esp. when you shouldnt be getting your ass kicked because the team your playing really isnt that good. It shows the fight in this team and Brewster and Fischs intelligence.
Wheres Panther Hawk? its his type of game
really i cant blame anyone for ripping Minnesota. I love Minnesota and would rather rip this team then cheer for them.
What doesn’t make ANY sense to me, is running the spread read with Gray. Is this what is going to happen in 2011? And if so WHY WAS DUNBAR FIRED AND 2009 SACRIFICED ?
Good question! Trust in Brew ... I'm sure he has a master plan.
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I love watching Brewster
looking like an idiot. He is way over his head like the entire staff. They really dont know what they are doing.
All I ever ask for out of the teams that I support is competence, not beating yourself with a million turnovers, not getting outcoached every flipping week, having the ability to adapt (or adopt according to Griese) based on what is happening in the game.
What recruit watches a game like this and says, “geez, this brewster guy who came into my home and sold me all this bluster really knows how to coach?”
And I don’t want to hear anything about talent deficiencies, transitions, or anything. Danny Hope needed 6 weeks for a solid upset, look at what Paul Johnson did last year, look at what Steve Sarkisian did in week 3.
EIther you can coach, or you can’t. I don’t know why anyone here thinks Brewster will get better and if you don’t, get rid of him. The problems in year one when there was no talent just look even worse where there is talent.
Get Brian Kelly, Bronco Mendenhall, or Gary Patterson on speed dial, and write a blank cheque.
Maybe Brewster can imagine this game didnt happen like
the one vs Iowa last year. I dont expect to see this in his record as a coach. At least he tries to lie its just another thing he isnt good at.
Looks like Gray can pass to me! Quick decsion making with a bit of a zip.
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$$$ are Football
Football is your cash cow in college. Spend your money now. Brewster can recruit, but coaching is questionable. Is Tony D interested. Get a proven man who can turn this program. People will start walking away and not pay for preferred seating unless you have a winner.
why couldnt we have seen this when it was 14-0 in the 3rd
Brewster is an idiot.
Would the Gophers lose anything ?
If they told Weber he is done and we are going with the Kid? He can transfer, who cares….but not giving Gray a chance may cause us to lose a future great QB and we are stuck with shit.
no they lose nothing
its not like they will go to a bowl that means anything with weber anyway and no way you can start him next year. His stats without Decker are wow bad.
I want nothing but the Freshman and Sophomores playing the rest of the year
sit all those seniors and juniors they were the ones that went 1-11. Our underclassmen is where the talent is let them learn.
I saw a link to a message board today saying
Illinois should fire Zook and then listed Brewster as a candidate.
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sweet i hope we dump him
Zook might be the only coach in football worse then Brewster.
Stats
Weber 10/23 for 112 yards and 2 picks, 5 rush for -8
Gray 5/6 51 yards and no picks 1 TD, 11 rushes for 81 yards.
Is it clear for brew yet?
All i can say is the one thing they couldnt let happen they did
They are a no show for both the Penn St and OSU game and Henderson and Beau and others are at home balking at going to Minnesota. They worst part about it is OSU and PSU arnt really even that good this year. Im mean for christ sake the buckeyes lost to purdue last week. Point being is the guys Brewster really needed to get to prove his legitamicy he wont get. This team will never have enough talent to overcome the weakness of our coaching. Coaches are more important then players in college football and teams like Utah and Boise prove it every year. Can Brewster now try to get a guy with a proven record and throw the rest of 09 away for a chance at a quick turn around in 10.
Brewster has lost this team...
They are confused, down on themselves, and whoever said we should start freshmen and sophs the rest of the year may be right, but do we want Brew to lose them, too. Time for a complete housecleaning.
I don't mind the loss...
…what I mind is the way we played. Absolutely terrible. I am getting so sick and tired of the same crap year after year. We’ll probably lose out the rest of the game just like last year. By the way, the Star/Trib has a poll going on about who should be the Gopher starting QB. Over 90% favor Gray.
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