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Gopher Hoops 2009-10 - Expectations

Minnesota forward Rodney Williams, wearing a cape, dunks after winning the dunk contest at the Tubby Tip-off.  Fri, Oct. 16, (AP Photo/Andy King)

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Minnesota forward Rodney Williams, wearing a cape, dunks after winning the dunk contest at the Tubby Tip-off. Fri, Oct. 16, (AP Photo/Andy King)

I cannot remember a Gopher hoops season that has had Gopher Nation this excited or been filled with this kind of expectations.The team returns all significant contributors to last year's squad that notched a win over an eventual #1 seed, racked up 22 wins and earned an NCAA tournament invitation.  That in and of itself is reason for optimism and excitement but the team also adds three or four players who potentially will fill the biggest weaknesses from a year ago.  Add to that a proven winner and highly respected head coach, and this season could be one of the best we have witnessed in many years.  (and the best part is, next year could be even better, but we'll wait 12 months before we start talking about the 2010-11 season). 

Let's first start with the known quantities.  What we bring back from a year ago is more than enough to look forward to a winning season that is very likely to end in second consecutive trip to the NCAA Tournament.  Defensively we have two of the best defenders in the conference with Damian Johnson and Al Nolen.  We have two talented and developing big men who did a fantastic job of learning how to play Big Ten basketball on the fly.  We have a few guards who lacked scoring consistency but they all were capable of putting up points in bunches.  And let's not forget a couple of JUCO transfers who have had a year under their belt and are poised to contribute more on both ends of the floor.  As stated, with modest improvement, this roster is good enough to finish top 6 of the Big Ten, get an NCAA bid and likely be favored in that first round match up.  For a program that has not had sustained success since the Haskins era this would be more than enough for a very fun season in the Barn.

But there are things the returning roster was missing.  A consistent and go-to scorer, some athleticism with the ability to get the ball to the rim from the perimeter, depth at PG and some toughness/nastiness inside.  A top 15 recruiting class that has the pieces to fill those holes perfectly is what we have coming in to compliment the current roster. 

Royce White is a consensus top 40 player in the country.  He has the tools to step into this Big Ten roster and immediately fill the role of a dominating scorer.  This is likely a role he will have to grow into and he doesn't have to carry the load every night, the hope is that defenses will have to account for him every possession and that will open things up for the other four guys on the floor.  Rodney Williams is an athletic freak who should be Big Ten ready defensively but the hope here is that he'll be the one able to break down a defense and finish at the rim or kick it out to one of our shooters.  Not having this threat allowed defenses to stick tight to the likes of Blake Hoffarber or Devoe Joseph making it hard for them to find their stroke from behind the arc.  Justin Cobbs is the incoming recruit talked about the least but this true point guard should provide depth to the position allowing Al Nolen to play strong throughout the season.  Finally we add Trevor Mbakwe.  TM is the one I think will add the most to this roster.  This guy finally gives the Gophers some toughness, a physical presence inside and some rebounding tenacity.  The 2008-09 Gophers were a great offensive rebounding team but defensive rebounding was significant issue at times, I believe TM will change that dramatically.

The question though is will the formula of Returners + Newcomers = great success?  Let's hope so, but here is what would be disappointing, surpassing all expectations and a realistic look at what should define success.

A disappointing season is hard to define.  Obviously not making the NCAA tournament would be disappointing.  Finishing outside of the top 6 in the Big Ten would be disappointing.  But I think the minimum bar is winning a first round NCAA tournament game.  By my definition making the tournament but losing in the first round again would be disappointing.  For this level of defining success I don't care about Big Ten rank.  As far as I'm concerned we could finish 7th, make the tournament, win a first round game and I can at the very least get some satisfaction out of this season.  Obviously many factors go into this.  If Damian Johnson gets hurt, Trevor Mbakwe is not eligible

A wildly successful season, with a pinch of realism, would be a Big Ten championship or maybe even a run to the Elite Eight.  There is almost zero chance that this team is good enough to win an NCAA Championship.  I could be wrong (I'd be happy to be wrong), but on paper we don't have a lot of holes but we also don't have bevy of superior talent.  Now, I DO think this team is good enough to be in the thick of things for the Big Ten title.  It isn't likely but if MSU and Purdue struggle or drop a game or two they shouldn't, this team might find it in a title hunt coming down the stretch.  Assuming that doesn't happen, I also wouldn't be shocked to see a quick run through the Big Ten tourney resulting in a championship.  And finally there is enough talent that with the right match ups and maybe the right upsets an Elite Eight or Final Four run would be a story but isn't completely unfathomable.  One of those three scenarios is possible though clearly would be reaching beyond what most feel this team is capable of.  I'm not holding my breath but much stranger things have happened in a college basketball season.

So after establishing the lower and upper parameters for success here is what I think is a realistic, if not slightly optimistic, picture of how the season will play out.  The 2009-10 Gophers will be a top 5 Big Ten team and ranked in the top 20 for the vast majority of the season.  I believe that a third place finish, #4 seed in the tourney and a run to the Sweet 16 is a realistic expectation.  

Many of our weaknesses have been strengthened, but this is not a complete team and question marks do remain.  So to believe this team is on par with some of the top 10 caliber teams is a bit of a stretch.  Are we capable of beating Purdue or Michigan State during any given game?  Absolutely, but with questions around consistent scoring and how this group comes together we are just as capable of losing to Michigan, Illinois, Penn State or Ohio State on a given night.  When the season plays itself out with the usual ups and downs we usually see I expect we will go 11-1 in the non-conference portion of the schedule and right around 12-6 in the Big Ten which should be good enough for 3rd place. 

That will take us into the Tourney where we should be seeded high enough that winning two games will be expected.  Crazy things happen in the NCAA tournament so winning two games is not an absolute requirement for a successful season, but given the talent, depth and coaching on this team there is no reason to believe we are not capable of achieving this level of "success."

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Where does this year's Gopher Hoops squad end up?
Final Four
18 votes
Elite Eight
34 votes
Sweet 16
158 votes
Win round 1, lose round 2
67 votes
Another token apperance
18 votes

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I hope my man

TM is found innocent and can play. Also, don’t rule out Bryant Allen as PG depth after football is over. He was also a 3 star PG recruit who chose MN over Missouri because he could play both sports.

by TheEvilProfessor on Oct 28, 2009 1:02 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

he'll be nice

but being a freshman and missing the first couple months I’m not expecting much out of him this year. At best he’ll be third on the PG depth chart.

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by GopherNation on Oct 28, 2009 1:47 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Can't wait for the season!

I was at the tip off, this team can be great with TM. Without we will still be top half Big Ten, IMO. I think we can compete with any team in the league this season, which is more than we could say last year. I definitely agree with the floor and ceiling projections, top 6 expected. Stars align, champs, “Decker injury equivalent” 8th.

I don’t think I’ve ever been so excited for the talent level of the Gopher B-Ball team. Thank you for the preview. I was anticipating this all month!!

by eazydp on Oct 28, 2009 1:08 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Overrated

I think most people are probably overrating the roles that Williams and White will play. They are still freshman. I think they will be bigger contributors next year. I see DJ and Westbrook as being the go to guys. Improved shooting from Hoffarber is needed—he can’t be much worse than last year. Nolen needs to take better care of the ball. I could actually see Cobbs being the freshman with the biggest impact if Nolen struggles again.

I say the Rodents finish in the top 4 of the Big 11.

Thanks for the preview—now if only ESPN would post the Big 11 preview. Why are we always the last conference in football/basketball to be previewed? Has anyone else noticed that?

by rencito on Oct 28, 2009 4:04 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

you might be right about RW2

Mbakwe is going to have the biggest affect on this team immediately. This team finished top 3 in offensive rebounding but bottom half of the conference in defensive rebounding. His presence may catapult us to top 3 in both categories which will help immensely.

Williams will have a bigger impact defensively than offensively this year.

But White HAS to have a bigger impact offensively. He might be the difference between 5th place and 3rd place in the Big Ten this year.

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by GopherNation on Oct 28, 2009 4:43 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Pet peeve

Why do people feel the need to use the term “Big 11”? It’s pretty annoying.

by scrib24 on Oct 28, 2009 4:06 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

They just wanna be different I guess, or they are really really proud that one day the counted the total number of teams and found out we have 11 not 10.

"they're calling insane hogs???"

by CrowTrobot on Oct 28, 2009 4:27 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Sometimes it is just more fun

to say Big 11.

The fact that you are annoyed by it makes me want to say it even more.

by rencito on Oct 28, 2009 6:21 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'll have another post on this but what are people's thoughts on starting lineup?

PG – Nolen
SG – Joseph
SF – Johnson
PF – Mbakwe
C – Sampson

BENCH
White
Westbrook
Iverson
Hoffarber
Williams

Carter
Cobbs

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by GopherNation on Oct 28, 2009 4:54 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Westbrook should be a starter, don’t think Mbakwe will be starting.

"they're calling insane hogs???"

by CrowTrobot on Oct 28, 2009 8:12 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Agree

No doubt that Westbrook is a starter.

by rencito on Oct 28, 2009 11:26 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

but he is perfectly suited to be offense coming off the bench

AND he is a tweenter between SG/PG. We will be better if he if first off the bench.

Mbakwe should also start as the only true PF we have. This allows DJ to play SF, which is a match-up advantage for us, and it allows Iverson to come off the bench giving us sustained quality at center.

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by GopherNation on Oct 29, 2009 9:20 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Agree with you on DJ/Mbakwe

but no way Westbrook is a tweener, unless you are talking explicitly about size. But his skills are definitely suited for a SG.

by rencito on Oct 29, 2009 1:54 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think by tweener

he means that Westbrook likes to have the ball in his hands to much to be a pure SG. That’s why Westbrook kind of has a rep as a ball hog. Plus no one else last year could initiate a play in the half court except westbrook. Hopefully that has changed.

by TheEvilProfessor on Oct 29, 2009 2:58 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

yes

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by GopherNation on Oct 30, 2009 9:08 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I see White starting instead of Mbakwe, and Westbrook instead of Joseph. I honestly think White will win Big Ten Freshman of the Year. People are already saying he’s our best post presence. And while Joseph and Westbrook are battling for the 2-spoit and don’t see how you can bench our leading scorer and best shooter from a year ago, even if might fit that role better.

by Cudder on Oct 29, 2009 10:30 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I agree

Westbrook, white and Iverson give us a nice group to beat up on backups with. Not that Tubby really has a starting rotation.

by TheEvilProfessor on Oct 29, 2009 10:51 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

didn't say White starts or williams

I think White will be the second string PF, but Williams will only see spot duty. Unless the rest of the wings can’t hack it on D, then Williams will come in (he’s just too damn athletic to get around)

All defensive backcourt:
Nolen
Williams
DJ

That is just plain old scary right there.

by TheEvilProfessor on Oct 29, 2009 2:56 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Expectations

I like to base my expectations on the seed in the NCAA since anything can happen in the tournament. Last year the expectation was a 8-11 seed. This year I would look for a 4-6 seed. Better is awesome and a worse seed would be a disappointment.

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by duckman86 on Oct 28, 2009 5:21 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Point Guard

Unless Nolan has really improved or Cobb is a major freshman surprise, the upside of this team is very limited from last year. I think there is a better chance Cobb will surprise than Nolan will have improved. I really like the looks of this team outside of the PG position and Westbrook thinking he is Allen Iverson.

by Texas Gopher on Oct 28, 2009 7:11 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I'm just wondering...

How Samson is looking this year? Has he put on a bit of “muscle weight” so he can battle under the boards more?

by COJOMAY on Oct 28, 2009 8:40 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Marcus Fuller had an article

saying he put on some muscle. But I haven’t seen him.

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by GopherNation on Oct 29, 2009 9:21 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think a lot of success for this team in the Big Ten will depend on Trevor Mbakwe

Really hope the kid is eligible. They could use his size & muscle on the inside.

by mahogma66 on Oct 28, 2009 8:52 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

IF RW

actually got to the rim on the picture above, that is very impressive.

by Texas Gopher on Oct 29, 2009 7:44 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

In the picture, to me anyway, he looks like a 12 year old kid who jumped up there on a trampoline. I must be getting old.

"they're calling insane hogs???"

by CrowTrobot on Oct 29, 2009 9:44 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

All Defensive Backcourt

Nolen
Williams
DJ

That is just plain scarry. Your shot will either get blocked or the ball gets stolen. That backcourt would put up a rediculous amount of transition buckets. Of course I am not sure that Nolen and Williams could even play in the halfcourt together.

by TheEvilProfessor on Oct 29, 2009 2:59 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Unfortunately

you still have to score points to win. Defense hasn’t been the problem.

by rencito on Oct 29, 2009 3:03 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

This team could very well go to the elite 8 or so

Next Year will be crazy if we do. Both our big men will be Jrs and Rodney Royce will have a year under their belt. Throw in the possiblity of having both Joesphs it this scenario plays out this team will be a National Title contender next year.

by Jeffdu on Oct 31, 2009 3:18 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

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