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5 Quick Hits From the Wisconsin - Minnesota Game, and the JG2112 Big 11 Rankings


2003, 2005, and 2006. Those are the last times Minnesota defeated Wisconsin (Rhys Lloyd hello), Michigan and Iowa in a rivalry game, respectively. For the decade, Minnesota is 5-22 in rivalry games. The only reason it won't become 5-24 this year is because the Big Ten thought it was a good idea not to have Michigan and Minnesota not play in 2009, the 100th anniversary of the Jug rivalry.

Whatever. If you're a Gopher fan (why else are you here except to gloat) what happened yesterday ought to tick you off. Yesterday was the kind of game that we should be able to expect victory in - an opposing QB in his first road start, playing against our D with 9 senior starters, playing in our shiny new ballpark, with upwards of 90% of our own fans there, on ESPN, and who in the world can defend Eric Decker?

Instead, the usual suspects lined up to defeat Minnesota - stupidity, the will of the opposition, and the inability of our coaching staff to adapt. When it happened in 2007, I chalked it up to inexperience. When it happened last year, I was less accepting but willing to see how the team would adapt.

We're in year 3. It doesn't matter that the coordinators have changed - the main players, the KEY players, are the same, and most importantly, the guy setting the tone and leading the ship is the same. For all the complaining about the talent level, Brewster primarily relies on kids (Weber, Decker, Small, Triplett, Campbell) that arrived here under the previous regime. For all the bluster, the bravado, the hyped scheduling, the "great" recruiting, while Minnesota is still above .500, my children have still never seen a rivalry trophy, being held by a Gopher in victory, in person.

John Cooper went 111-43-4, including a 70-30-4 conference record and 3 conference titles, for Ohio State from 1988 - 2000. His 2-10-1 record against the Buckeyes' main rival led to his firing.

Tim Brewster is now 11-19 as the Gophers' head coach, with a 4-14 conference record, and a 0-7 record against his 3 major rivals. It's time to start winning the games that matter to the fanbase.

5 Quick Big Ten Thoughts -

(1) I said two things in my Friday preview that I'll repeat again here: (a) what I would give for Wisconsin's success, and (b) how good would John Clay look in the Gophers' offense with Eric Decker stretching the field?

(2) I have no idea what to think of Purdue in anticipation of their visit this week. Help me out: Purdue almost beats Oregon in Eugene, who destroys Cal in Eugene, who comfortably beat Minnesota at TCF. That's no way to determine game matchups, and I'm not doing it here, but it doesn't help analysis either.

One consideration - RB Ralph Bolden had similar numbers to John Clay coming into week 5, and he has a better yards per carry average. Great.

(3) My prevailing opinion is that Tim Brewster is little different as a football coach than Ron Zook - they're both great recruiters but leave a lot to be desired as in-game coaches.

Anyone think Ron Zook sees 2010 as the Illini head coach? I don't see how it's possible, and this guy's team played in the Rose Bowl two years ago. The regression of Juice Williams is the single most surprising development (or lack thereof, I suppose) of the young season.

(4) There is a marked difference between the talent level at Ohio State and every other team in the conference. However, there is no other team, save Michigan, who will fall harder if their starting QB is out for any game.

(5) Seriously. If LB Gary Tinsley wasn't suspended for (EDIT: I guess the articles I read last weekend were incorrect according to Buck Bravo, and therefore I'll take the information down despite the fact I've found no retraction on-line - help me out), what in the world did Tim Dandridge and Cedric McKinley do? McKinley's absence directly affected the game. What a huge disappointment, and it has to fall on Brewster, who is responsible for keeping his players in line with such important games coming up.

The JG2112 Big Eleven Rankings (back after a 2-week break):

(1) Ohio State (4-1) - their game against Iowa on 11/15 will determine the conference title;

(2) Iowa (5-0) - they've never seen the Rich Rodriguez spread, and they play to the level of their competition. How will they play this Saturday night? An intriguing game;

(3) Wisconsin (5-0) - they will get found out later this year, heck, probably next week in Columbus. Still, they have been impressive;

(4) Penn State (4-1) - they rushed for over 340 yards against Illinois. I expect them to do little different against Minnesota on the 17th;

(5) Michigan (4-1) - That's three amazing Tate Forcier comebacks now in 5 games, Saturday's being unsuccessful. However inconsistent they are, and they certainly are, they are a reason to curse your TiVo for running out of time;

(6) Minnesota (3-2) - The holes that should be gone are still there. It's up to Fisch and Cosgrove to close them, because some powerful offenses are awaiting the Gophers the next few weeks;

(7) Northwestern (3-2) - Meh.

(8) Indiana (3-2) - they should have worn all cream jerseys and defended The Rock Saturday night.

(9) Michigan State (2-3) - almost handed away the game Saturday in epic SPARTY NO!!!! fashion. If they figure out their rushing attack by Halloween, however, the Gophers are in trouble;

(10) Purdue (1-4) - What a weird team. They almost beat Oregon, they got shellacked by Northern Illinois, they should have beaten Notre Dame (if only Danny Hope understood the purpose of time outs), and they let an 18-point lead evaporate against Northwestern. I expect them to lay an egg this Saturday, but they do have a pretty darn good offense. Who knows? Time to Hammer and Rail it this week and figure it out.

And finally.

(11) Illinois (1-3) - this team is putrid. Whoever mocked me for predicting that Illinois would lose to Missouri and Cincinnati, well, I'm waiting. The underachievement is unbelievable, and it's looking to me like this is where Brian Kelly should be coaching in 2010. At that point I have no idea who I'll compare Brewster to for Big 10 conference coaches. 

Actually, this is finally:

A November 14, 2009 update:

South Dakota State is 3-1 after losing 21-14 at Cal Poly this past Saturday (yes, that is the Cal Poly that should have defeated Wisconsin last year). Next up this week: at Missouri State.

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Weber?

Why has Weber regressed so badly? It’s beyond “the coaches messed with his mechanics”. He looks scared to death to run the football to pick up first downs, which I think would take a lot of pressure off the offense and help move the chains. He still stares down his primary receiver like a freshman (in high school I will add), and the only way he racks up his yards is when plays break down and he throws outside the pocket on the run, and the receivers are playing pick-up ball at that point just trying to find openings (by the way, I LOVE our receiving corps).

This team confuses me. The offensive line looks horrible this season. The defense, though it has been solid at times, shows no ability to rush the passer, and 3rd down and long still plagues us like it has since Jim Wacker was calling the shots (may he rest in peace).

We are right back where we were last season….we need major turnovers to win games.

Next year is when I’ll start calling for change…but not yet. Gotta give “Brewster’s Millions” recruits the chance to all play together. Also get another year in the new house under our belts. Our QB situation needs improvement (where is Gray?). I’ve never seen a QB regress so badly in one year as Weber has done. Missed receivers, interceptions, telegraphing passes…he plays like an average freshman. Sure, maybe he doesn’t get rattled…but he makes the same mistakes…so what is the difference! Then again, I’d probably make those mistakes if I had such a weak offensive line!!! Maybe that’s it…he’s scared to death.

This Wisconsin game was a game we just needed to win. And not just win by a field goal, but go out and punch somebody in the mouth and take the game. We just don’t have the skill to do that to anybody we play (yet!!!!!) We were expected to win, we were the Vegas favorites, the analysts picked us…but we just failed to deliver. Failed to play well. Failed, yet again, to get our hands on a trophy. We remain at the bottom of the Big 10, unfortunately, where I think we belong this season. We really are not very good, and the teams we have defeated are pretty weak teams.

by jimipig on Oct 4, 2009 8:44 PM CDT reply actions  

Tinsley

I read somewhere that Tinsley could not be identified by the victim, and that there was no proof that he had been involved. You can’t suspend someone for something they may or may not have done. It has to be proven first.

Buck Bravo

by Buck Bravo on Oct 4, 2009 9:32 PM CDT reply actions  

Buck

Link? The only thing I find online is the police report where Tinsley was cited for drunkenness and fleeing from the police.

by JG2112 on Oct 4, 2009 10:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

The link is out there

if you want to go search for it. The news was announced prior to the game that he could not be identified and was released. There’s no way they would have played him otherwise. I have never and will never write anything on this site regarding an issue at that level of sensitivity without news sources to back me up.

Buck Bravo

by Buck Bravo on Oct 5, 2009 7:30 AM CDT up reply actions  

Couple points

It seems like our O-Line starts off extremely slow…gets better and then just plays inconsistently for the rest of the game.

Weber keeps on making poor decisions…like scramling in the fouth quarter inside your own 20 to give up 10 additional yards on the inevitable sack. Plus he almost never hits our WRs in stride…when he did (Hayo reception) it went for 15 yards on a short slant pass. This guy just leaves soo many yards on the field.

RB – I have seen as much Duane Bennett as I can stand. Just put in Whaley and let him develop already. At least he is fast.

As much as I would like to bash the defense for not being able to stop clay, I think it had more to do with the badgers O-Line controlling the line of scrimmage so well. 260 lbs is hard to stop once it starts.

If Brewster can’t get close to .500 play in conference play, We should get a coach who can. Shouldn’t be too hard considering the new stadium and all.

If Seantrel was considering us before…he shouldn’t be now. One player can’t fix an O-Line.

by TheEvilProfessor on Oct 5, 2009 8:07 AM CDT reply actions  

Clay was getting awesome blocking, and he’s an awesome runner. He would patiently wait for holes to open then burst through, he is awesome.

"they're calling insane hogs???"

by CrowTrobot on Oct 5, 2009 8:24 AM CDT up reply actions  

Actually Minnesota just cant tackle

I dont know how many missed oppourtunities i saw to get him down before he started yeah once he gets rolling down hill its hard to stop thats why you wrap up when you have in the backfield and line of scrimage (Campbell).

by Jeffdu on Oct 6, 2009 3:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

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