2010 class ranked #51

by duluthguy on Dec 22, 2009 10:15 PM CST Comment 17 comments

Scout.com ranks Minnesota's 2010 recruiting class #51, just ahead of Indiana. 8th in Big Ten. This probably isn't a big suprise to those that follow these kinds of things, but I don't and I am suprised. Brewster is supposed to be the master recruiter. I'm not impressed. There should be no discussion about a contract extension that doesn't have better severance terms than the current contract. He is in over his head, and the quicker Maturi figures this out, and acts, the better.

http://recruiting.scout.com/a.z?s=73&p=9&c=14&yr=2010

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Kinda early?

to be assessing the class until the signing period is over I would think. What would Seantrel do for our rank?

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by CrowTrobot on Dec 23, 2009 9:29 AM CST reply actions 0 recs

I agree. Don't count your chickens before they hatch.

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by buddylee853 on Dec 23, 2009 9:33 AM CST via mobile up reply actions 0 recs

I’m ambivalent about the class at this point, but, let’s wait until February 6th or so before we complain about this class’s composition. The members of the class change almost daily with de-commits and commits.

by JG2112 on Dec 27, 2009 12:11 AM CST reply actions 0 recs

Don’t most people consider Scout to be the least recognized service behind Rivals & ESPN? Wouldn’t it be more fair to also quote Rivals where we are #37 and 6th in the Big Ten when most people consider Rivals to be better?

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by FishingMN on Dec 27, 2009 8:16 AM CST reply actions 0 recs

I consider Rivals to be more accurate

ESPECIALLY in this case :).

But I do believe the general consensus is that Rivals is better but that is probably more subjective than giving stars to 18 yr old kids.

On the rivals side the key number (imo) is 5.7. This is their Rivals rank. A 5.7 is still a three-star but he is “high” three-star. 5.8 is a four-star. Here are the number of commits 5.7 or better in Brewster’s classes.

2008 – 11
2009 – 11
2010 – 6

We really do need to wait until the class is finished but this is the reason this class is being ranked in the 35-50 range, not 25-35.

For reference sake and perspective on how much the “on paper” talent is being upgraded, here are the number of 5.7 or greater commits prior to Brew…

2007 – 4 (2 Brew and 2 Mason)
2006 – 0
2005 – 1
2004 – 0

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by GopherNation on Dec 28, 2009 9:20 AM CST reply actions 0 recs

The Mason comparison

is a red herring.

It’s a given that the talent is upgrading. The comparison between the talent with Brewster and Mason doesn’t matter however (the way it matters, if anything, is to prove how much better of a coach Mason was). What DOES matter is the comparison between Brewster and the rest of the conference.

Brewster’s classes consistently rank between 5-8 in the conference, no matter what service you subscribe to. That gets you………Champs Sports Bowl bids, if you’re lucky.

Brewster repeatedly said the goal is to get to Pasadena and the Rose Bowl, and we’re repeatedly told to wait for a complete set of Brew players to judge him. Well, given 5 years of Tressel recruits, 5 years of Paterno recruits, 5 years of Bielema recruits, 5 years of Ferentz recruits, 5 years of Rodriguez recruits, and the coaching associated with each set, does anyone here honestly think 5 years of Brewster recruits can beat all those teams and win the conference? I’ll hang up and listen.

by JG2112 on Dec 29, 2009 9:53 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs

the mason classes were a throw in

the point was that this class isn’t as strong as the other classes because it is missing some 5.7 guys. It is also for perspective. If Mason would have signed this class people would be ecstatic.

Brewster HAS to start winning some games, he hasn’t proven anything on the field yet. But I think the criticism of this particular class undue.

What would happen if someone was capable of recruiting AND coaching? I just can’t even imagine.

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by GopherNation on Dec 29, 2009 11:34 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Brewster was great as an assitant

But I can tell now why he was never even a coordinator any place. His leadership abilities are insufficient. He is a terrific recruiter—which was the reason we hired him—but I don’t trust his on the field abilities at all.

That being said, he probably deserves one more year to prove himself. Next year’s schedule is a killer and we probably won’t go to a bowl game without some signature wins.

by rencito on Dec 29, 2009 6:13 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

is next year's schedule any tougher than this years?

I see four wins that we absolutely have to have (MTSU, NIU, USD, NU).

Pur / Ill needs to be one road win, two isn’t out of the question.

Wis / MSU games are possible though I’m not holding my breath.

Then one of the four really tough home games you need to steal. Regardless of the outcomes, season ticket holders have to love the slate of quality teams coming to TCF again this year.

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by GopherNation on Dec 30, 2009 10:24 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs

I think it is a lot tougher

We should win our non-conference games other than USC and Northwestern at home, although the latter is no gimme.

All of the “winnable” games are on the road. Wisconsin, Purdue, Michigan State, Illinois are all away from TCF. Every one of those teams expects to beat us on their home field. I’m not saying we can’t win any of them, but it makes next year’s schedule tougher than this year’s since all of those games were at home this year. Instead, we get OSU, PSU, and Iowa at home. Tough.

My really early prediction is 4-8 for the season—which means 1-7 in conference play. I can see 5-7, but I really don’t see 6-6.

by rencito on Dec 30, 2009 1:17 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

To clarify

My first sentence should read: The games I see us winning are the three non-conference games (outside USC) as well as Northwestern at home. I didn’t write that particularly clearly the first time around.

by rencito on Dec 30, 2009 1:19 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Apparently 42nd class now on Scout

After a couple adjustments the Gophers moved up several spots and one spot in the conference.

Part of why Scout isn’t as widely trusted is their star rankings are more based on overall rank than actual analysis / eval of the recruit. It is something like top XXX players are 5 star, XXX-XXX are 4-star, etc. So less analysis of what a 4-star actually looks like and more about lists.

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by GopherNation on Dec 28, 2009 2:50 PM CST reply actions 0 recs