Daily Nugs 12.8.2009
by Buck Bravo on Dec 8, 2009 3:00 AM CST
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Ohio State boards are excited about their prospects at landing several players including Seantrel Henderson at this link, yet raise the issue that Jim "Sweater-Vest" Tressel may be on the hot seat:
I really think Minnesota is still in the hunt here...Brewster absolutely needs this kid and I don't see them going down quietly. Whoever ends up at ND will obviously make Seantrel a priority as well. I think USC is too far away. Lots of positives for OSU but I've seen this movie before and it doesn't seem to end well for JT more often than not.
Iowa fans are drooling over a rumor that Henderson may be considering the Hawkeyes as a top choice at this link. Iowa has a good football team, but probably hit the pinnacle of their success this season. It would be very interesting if Henderson went to Iowa and became to Minnesota what Brett Favre is to Wisconsin, but I would be very surprised to see him end up down there.
Down With Goldy previews tonight's matchup with Morgan State on the basketball court.
Four Star running back Josh Huff has decommitted from the Gophers to attend TCU. TCU is having a great season, but there are a few reasons to seriously question this decision: their head coach will probably leave soon for a higher profile job, they are historically only the 4th best team (over the last decade) in Texas, and they don't even have a blog that I can link to!
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TCU is having a great season, but there are a few reasons to seriously question this decision: their head coach will probably leave soon for a higher profile job
Patterson just signed a new contract to stay at TCU. Doesn’t mean he won’t leave for a high profile job… just sayin’.
"Don't you want a little taste of the glory... see what it tastes like?"
SH to Iowa
Why is this harder for you guys to accept than a fabulous Insite Bowl bid? His HS position coach [Alt] took the same path; highly sought after MN HS kid who spurned MN and others to be a Hawkeye. Look how that worked out for him!! There are also two guys from Cretin starting for IA this year, who will both be in the NFL eventually. If Bulaga jumps to the NFL this season, you could have 4 OL from Iowa drafted in April.
For anyone to say “Iowa is at the pinnacle of their success,” they have to be asleep at the switch—too many reason for this observation to go into.
Not saying we land him, but I am much happier to be coming on strong in December and generating whispers now, than a year ago……….
I hate you Buck Bravo
Not just because you’re a Gopher fan, but because you’re making me basically agree with PantherHawk. I don’t think Iowa or Minnesota is likely to land Seantrel, by most of the accounts I’ve read he seems to want to go to one of the “name” programs (USC, OSU). That said, it certainly wouldn’t be a surprise for him to land at Iowa given the sterling reputation in the pros Ferentz has for developing offensive linemen. I know that with the clown you have in charge, the idea that a coach could have a positive reputation may be a bit foreign to you, but it does actually happen and has an effect on recruiting. But, like I said, doubtful he ends up at Iowa or Minnesota.
Now, if you’ll excuse me, I need to go shower with steel wool to get the grime of agreeing with Panther off me.
I ate the blue ones ... they taste like burning.
If I had to bet
My $ would be on USC. The location and reputation would be hard for a young guy to pass on. Iowa had a fantastic year (by the way…I predicted them to take the Big Ten), but they don’t have the talent to put up a record like that year after year. I know that Iowa fans are enjoying stirring things up, but there’s not much of a chance that he goes there. Neither Iowa OR Minnesota will ever be thought of as top 10 programs on a national level. Upper tier at best with occasional great seasons.
I still think that 60 years from now his legacy would be greatest if he attended Minnesota, but the bright lights of USC offer too much allure in the near term.
Buck Bravo
by Buck Bravo on Dec 8, 2009 11:17 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
Henderson should only be thinking about 3 years from now
As in, how high will he be drafted when he forgoes his Senior season. Which program is most likely to prepare him and put a spotlight on him to be a top 5 pick?
Jedd Fisch isn’t gonna get this kid prepared for the next level. Neither is Brewster. It’s OSU, USC, and with a Lloyd Christmas’ chance in hell…Iowa. (So you’re saying there’s a chance…)
by YouCanPutYourEddsInIt on Dec 8, 2009 11:35 AM CST up reply actions
Jedd Fisch doesn't coach the O-line
Tim Davis does, and his pedigree is comparable to anyone. He has experience at USC and Alabama coaching O-lines.
and a year with the Miami Dolphins
USC OL coach = put guys in the NFL
Miami NFL OL coach = coached at that level
Alabama OL coach = put guys in the NFL (Andre Smith was #6 pick last year)
I have no disrespect for Ferenz but Tim Davis might be one of the most respect OL position coaches in the country.
what you say here can, and will, be used against you
by GopherNation on Dec 8, 2009 12:43 PM CST up reply actions
RE:Alabama OL coach = put guys in the NFL (Andre Smith was #6 pick last year)
ummmmmmm….he had nothing to do with coaching the OL at Alabama, but keep wishing. Tell me, how many NFL OLmen did this great Tim Davis coach every year they played in college?
re:Tim Davis might be one of the most respect OL position coaches in the country.
Really?? Is that why he was a lowly recruiting coordinator at Alabama when Timm came calling??
re:USC OL coach = put guys in the NFL
Name them? Name the ones he coached from the day they set foot on campus until the day they were drafted??
re:He has experience at USC and Alabama coaching O-lines.
Again, he never coached at Alabama, he was a recruting coordinator. Why do you guys just guess and make s@@t up?????? Now that AL is in the title game, I am sure Brewster likes to think his boy was the OL coach there!!!!!!!!!!! lol
HOLY
can you put out 18 more comments about how he didn’t coach OL at Alabama, I was wrong on that one. Obviously since you don’t think so, he has no significant OL coaching experience and Iowa is the ONLY school where SH has a chance to be even drafted.
what you say here can, and will, be used against you
God what a troll
PH could give lessons on insulting/confrontational writing in any college in the US. :)
by TheEvilProfessor on Dec 8, 2009 2:33 PM CST up reply actions
I know I try so hard not to engage
when ignored he usually goes away, but it is so hard sometimes. The funny thing is there isn’t one place he trolls where people appreciate him, this includes Iowa sites.
what you say here can, and will, be used against you
I'm pretty sure we banned him
Only time the banhammer was broken out at BHGP I believe. I’m not one to favor restricting the free-flow of dialogue, but sometimes it’s a necessary evil.
I ate the blue ones ... they taste like burning.
That would require a degree, however :)
And an advanced one, at that.
"If we got to we're going to crawl in this locker room. And on our back is going to be an axe..."
by buddylee853 on Dec 8, 2009 2:51 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
True
but I kind of take that for granted…given my name :)
by TheEvilProfessor on Dec 8, 2009 2:52 PM CST up reply actions
At this point
I think Minnesota is still hoping that maybe, someday, they’ll be at a place where they can be considered “upper tier at best with occasional great seasons.”
You’re absolutely right, however, in noting that if Henderson wants to go to a program and win a national title before going pro early, then his best bets are USC or OSU. Iowa and Minnesota are equally screwed on that one. Minny has the hometown edge, but Iowa has the advantage in Ferentz’s proven track record in developing pro O-line talent. And I’m quite certain neither Henderson, nor any other high school senior, gives two shits about what his legacy 60 years from now may be.
I ate the blue ones ... they taste like burning.
A perfect opportunity to reiterate my stance: I’ll be suprised if he doesn’t go to USC.
Buck Bravo
by Buck Bravo on Dec 8, 2009 1:06 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
jerdogg1
you beat me to it. All indications are that Patterson is not moving on (up?). I work with a big ex-TCU guy and he is convinced that Patterson is happy and content in Fort Worth. He just signed a new contract through 2016 and his assts. all got nice raises. My question to Huff is why would a RB want to go to a spread offense like TCU’s??
More recruits flipping
Antoine Lewis changed his commitment to Purdue and Hawkins is going switch to TCU as well. There will be others. You cannot look that bad on the field and expect recruits to get excited about playing here.
Iowa
Iowa has a really good thing going right now and their program is clearly at a level where they’ve earned the right to be taken seriously by ANY recruit.
The point is not that Iowa isn’t worthy of a 5-star recruit. Some of us (or if I’m not speaking for anyone else “I”) believe Iowa has a small chance to land SH because they don’t fit what he appears to be looking for. I think his choice comes down to (A)-going to an elite program that is in or very near a BCS Title game every couple years. Or (B)-stay home because he believes he’ll be the catalyst to be a program changer.
I know Iowa fans tend to get overly-sensitive that we (I) don’t believe they have a realistic shot at landing him, I mean no disrespect to Iowa or their program. I have nothing but respect for their program and I covet their consistent coaching staff. But Seantrel to Iowa is just not the fit he seems to have been looking for all along. This is why I believe Iowa has no realistic shot at landing him (just an opinion PH, I’m not declaring Minnesota to be Rose Bowl bound here). Iowa offers nothing that any other school isn’t already offering.
1 – He’s going to get drafted because of his skill. He’ll get good OL coaching anywhere he chooses.
2 – If he wants to win a national championship he’ll go to USC/OSU/ND/Flor/OK
3 – If he wants to be a program changer he’ll stay home (that’s Minnesota’s only shot).
what you say here can, and will, be used against you
Exactly what I was trying to say
Buck Bravo
by Buck Bravo on Dec 8, 2009 2:09 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Iowa fans
they read – “I don’t think Iowa has a serious shot at landing SH”
they hear – “Ferentz isn’t 10% the coach that Tim Brewster is, TDG thinks Minnesota is going to the BCS title game next year, SH would be insane to choose another program over the Gophers.”
the most hyper-sensitive fan base in the conference.
what you say here can, and will, be used against you
But what else do they have?
There isn’t a pro team in the state (at least not a major sport) and their basketball is horrible this year. They have football and wrestling. And I think that due to too many crude gay jokes being thrown their way about wrestling being one of the few things they are good at they have become a little sensitive about anything that isn’t positive about their reputation.
by TheEvilProfessor on Dec 8, 2009 2:54 PM CST up reply actions
that gets way overplayed
Usually it is the trump card Minn fans have because our FB team is stuck in perpetual mediocrity. But it clearly leads to an over-protectiveness and over-sensitivity towards their FB team. It is like a parent of an only child. It doesn’t make them any less of a parent than of someone who has multiple, but they are generally more over-protective to a large degree because it is all they’ve got.
what you say here can, and will, be used against you
I’m aware that this comment will likely not be viewed, but TCU as the fourth best program in Texas this decade? Behind who, other than Texas? Our win totals are quite comparable to Tech, we’ve won more Conference titles than Tech. We’re 1-1 against Tech. And the less said about the Aggies this decade the better. Outside of costing Texas the Big 12 and costing 0U a shot at the title, they’ve done nothing this decade.
Texas is #1 this decade, at the most generous you could call it a push with TCU and Tech, any other program in Texas would rank well, well below.
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