Navigation: Jump to content areas:


Pro Quality. Fan Perspective.
Login-facebook
Around SBN: Will Rhymes 'Fine' After Being Hit By Pitch And Fainting

Big Ten NCAA Tournament Resumes

Selection Sunday is exactly six weeks from today.  Last year the Big  Ten only got four teams into the Big Dance but this year teams like Michigan Minnesota, Illinois and Northwestern have had surprisingly stronger than expected seasons.  The league appears to be poised get several teams into the tournament.  But how many?  The Big Ten got six teams into the tournament in 2007 and the last time they got seven teams was 2001.

With less than 10 games to play lets take a look at some tournament resumes.

---------- Likely In (sorted by RPI) ----------

Michigan State

Record - 17-3
RPI - 4
Record vs. RPI top 50 - 7-1
Key Wins - Texas, Kansas, @Minnesota,
Bad Losses - North Carolina, Northwestern

TDG Verdict - clearly they'll be in and clearly the class of the league.  They aren't exactly playing to get in, they are playing for a great seed and their goal is to participate in the Final Four in front of a home crowd at Ford Field..  The UNC game isn't exactly a "bad" loss, but they gave up 98 and lost by 35. Since that throttling the Spartans have played great and before the home loss to Northwestern were serious contenders for a #1 seed.  They could still get there considering nobody is really a lock as we begin February.

Illinois

Record - 17-4
RPI - 17
Record vs. RPI top 50 - 4-3
Key Wins - Missouri, @ Purdue
Bad Losses - @ Minnesota

TDG Verdict - Same boat as Minnesota, they are basically in but a late season collapse could move them out.  So we'll say they are in.  The Minnesota loss was ugly but in the end it will just be a road loss to a tournament team.  A dangerous tournament team with a dangerous backcourt and they are well coached.  Will be seeded somewhere between 5-7.  The high RPI is important to note

Minnesota

Record - 17-3
RPI - 20
Record vs. RPI top 50 - 4-2
Key Wins - Louisville, @Wisconsin, Illinois
Bad Losses - @Northwestern

TDG Verdict - Not exactly "in" yet but a high RPI and arguably the best Big Ten win of the season over Louisville, Minnesota would have to drop several games to fall back on to the bubble.  The Wisconsin win and Northwestern loss appears to be not as great and not as bad respectively.  The Illinois win was a statement in it's style and final point differential. Seed?  The Gophers will need probably 2 more "big" wins to get up to a 4 seed.  Winning at Michigan State and/or a trip to the Big Ten Tournament finals would do the trick but I think a 5 or 6 seed is most likely.

Ohio State

Record - 15-5
RPI - 22
Record vs. RPI top 50 - 2-5
Key Wins - Butler, Notre Dame, @ Miami
Bad Losses - West Virginia

TDG Verdict - Likely to make the tournament with the high RPI and some wins that appeared to be rather large at the time.  This team is battling tough after the loss of David Lighty in December.  Purdue remains on their schedule twice as well as Illinois and @ Wisconsin.  Ohio State is likely in but they'll be in that 8/9 game where the winner gets the opportunity to face a #1 seed.

Purdue

Record - 17-4
RPI - 35
Record vs. RPI top 50 - 4-3
Key Wins - Davidson, Boston College
Bad Losses -@Penn St

TDG Verdict - This team is a tournament team but they have not yet shown that they are serious Final Four contenders.  Close losses to Oklahoma and Illinois (both in OT) aren't terrible losses but they are showing that this team is good just not as good as people anticipated.  It is kind of interesting because had expectations been lower, there would be more of a buzz around the Boilermakers.  They still have opportunities to make a statement with an trip to Illinois and two games with Michigan State.  The mystery isn't if they'll be in, but what will their seed be.  They are capable of notching some huge wins and winning either the regular season or tournament title.  I'm guessing 2 seed is best case scenario and more likely a 4 or 5 seed.

---------- Bubble ----------

Wisconsin

Record - 12-9
RPI - 32
Record vs. RPI top 50 - 1-7
Key Wins - none
Bad Losses - @ Iowa, @ Northwestern

TDG Verdict - another team that was holding on to a seed just a week ago that has to turn things around if they want to play in the Big Dance.  A six game losing streak is brutal as is their 1-7 record against teams in the top 50 RPI.  Wisconsin is currently out but their schedule has opportunities for several wins to close out the season.  If they get things figured out, they'll be in but right now this team is free falling.

Michigan

Record - 14-8
RPI - 55
Record vs. RPI top 50 - 3-5
Key Wins - Duke, UCLA
Bad Losses - Wisconsin, @ Penn St,

TDG Verdict - Looked like a lock a week or two ago but they have lost 5 of 6 and are clearly back on the bubble.  The Wolverines are capable of beating anybody but are also wearing down as the season heads into the final stretch.  As of right now, I think they are out.  The Duke and UCLA wins are huge but they also lost to Duke on a neutral floor which will clearly factor into their fate.  Ultimately the low RPI will keep them out barring a big run to finish the season.

---------- Needs work to get onto bubble ----------

Northwestern

Record - 12-7
RPI - 51
Record vs. RPI top 50 - 3-4
Key Wins - @ Michigan St, Minnesota
Bad Losses - @ Penn St, @ Michigan

TDG Verdict - Their losses are not terrible, their RPI is not terrible but nothing stands out as this being a tournament team.  After starting 0-4 in the Big Ten, Northwestern has turned it around and is playing very well right now.  They'll be the fun story to watch since they have never made the NCAA Tournament.  Can they get in this year?  Their fate may be determined by a three game home stand in mid February.  Illinois, Michigan and Ohio State come to town.  If they can get a couple wins there or even win all three then their resume starts to be taken seriously.  As it stands they really have one significant win.  Currently a bubble team but I think they miss the tourney yet again.

Penn State

Record - 16-5
RPI - 72
Record vs. RPI top 50 - 1-4
Key Wins - Purdue
Bad Losses - Rhode Island, Temple

TDG Verdict - They are at the bottom of this list but they really are so close.  Reverse either the Temple or URI loss and this team's resume is looking so much better.  Their win total is fine and they could finish fifth in the B10 standings but that RPI is really bad.  Illinois twice, Purdue and Minnesota provide them chances at a big win or two.  But they'll need to win a couple of those to get onto the bubble and a couple tournament wins to get in.

It wasn't long ago the Big Ten looked like they had a legit shot at getting seven teams in.  But Wisconsin and Michigan are stumbling.  Plenty will change in the next six weeks but if the Tournament started this weekend I think five teams would get in and maybe Wisconsin based on reputation only.  If the Badgers and Wolverines continue to struggle I'm not sure either Penn State or Northwestern have done or will do enough to make the jump from out to in. 

Regardless of how many teams eventually get in, the Big Ten has regained some respectability, which is a good thing.  Getting six or seven teams in would be step one.  Then seeing those teams succeed would be outstanding for the conference.

Comment 12 comments  |  0 recs  | 

Do you like this story?

More from The Daily Gopher

Life on the Bubble

Mar 2009 by GopherNation - 8 comments

Comments

Display:

Conference Strength

Since I believe the conference is the strongest it has been in years, I hope that this not only translates into a good number of NCAA bids, but also a few Sweet 16 and beyond teams.

by MinnMarchDTF on Feb 1, 2009 10:53 AM CST reply actions  

Sweet 16

Tubby has (9) S16 in 14 NCAA appearances.

The only 2 coaches with higher % (of S16 per NCAA0 are Coach K at Duke and Roy Williams at UNC.

by FortyYearCatFan on Feb 1, 2009 12:57 PM CST reply actions  

With Penn State's win

They look to be able to make the tournament. I think the Big Ten gets 6 teams with Michigan St., Purdue, Illinois, Gophers, Ohio State and Penn St in and Wisconsin and Michigan out.

by duckman86 on Feb 1, 2009 1:15 PM CST reply actions  

but their RPI is still pretty weak

they’ll need to win more to get in

what you say here can, and will, be used against you

by GopherNation on Feb 1, 2009 1:26 PM CST reply actions  

Agreed

Penn State needs more to get in. If they stay on their 6-3 pace and finish 12-6 in the Big Ten, which is no small feat, they should be in a good position. They just need to beat some more tournament teams to strengthen their resume.

by rencito on Feb 1, 2009 4:21 PM CST up reply actions  

if you read below

it was losing by 35 on a “neutral” court (in Detroi).

what you say here can, and will, be used against you

by GopherNation on Feb 1, 2009 1:48 PM CST reply actions  

Good Article

A few more things:

First, Ohio State is falling like a rock. Perhaps you started writing this last week, but OSU’s RPI is down to 31 and dropping.

Purdue, MSU, Illinois, and Minnesota are all in right now.

Michigan, Northwestern, Penn State, Ohio State, and Wisconsin will be playing a Royale Rumble style battle for the last 2-3 spots. If Michigan can right itself, they should make it with their non-conference wins. Northwestern actually has had a decent non-conference schedule, but Florida State was the only tough game they actually won. The Purdue game that got away from them could come back to haunt. Penn State will need to have a really good showing to make it since their non-conference schedule was especially weak.

We probably won’t know who the last teams in will be until the Big 10 tournament is over. The Big 10 tourney will be a crap shoot with how deep the conference is this year. I’ll be happy if the Gophers just win one game in the Big 10 tourney. Of course I want them to win the whole thing, but with how tough the conference is this year, I’ll be happy with just making it to the semis.

MSU’s loss today really opens the door for Purdue. If MSU wins the conference tournament they should get a #1. If Purdue wins it, they will probably get a #2 if the current trends hold up. MSU had a much tougher out of conference schedule.

by rencito on Feb 1, 2009 2:34 PM CST reply actions  

The Michigan Schools

MSU’s loss came to a Hansbroughless UNC. Tyler is a bit more important than Goran.

And the Gophers beat Duke? Oh wait, that was Michigan. Their win is a lot more impressive considering how Duke and Louisville were playing at the time of their losses.

by From The Barn on Feb 1, 2009 6:14 PM CST reply actions  

I said arguably

the win over Duke was huge, no doubt. But I also believe when those wins are looked at in March the L’ville win will appear bigger.

what you say here can, and will, be used against you

by GopherNation on Feb 1, 2009 9:34 PM CST up reply actions  

Comments For This Post Are Closed


User Tools

Minnesota Golden Gophers sports--Usually analytical, sometimes snarky.

FanPosts

Community blog posts and discussion.

Recent FanPosts

Daily_logo_small
What does the Vikings stadium deal mean for Gopher football?
47487
B1G Homecoming Kickoff Times announced
83217-125958-hawkeye_super_small
Gophers Host a Kegger!
47487
Big Ten announces prime-time TV schedule
47487
President Kaler announces VCU athletic director as AD finalist
Small
Hoops Season In Review
Small
Gophers Hockey Preview
Small
Frozen Four Preview
Small
Gophers 2013 Basketball Prospectus
Small
National Championship Preview (NIT Style)

+ New FanPost All FanPosts >


Managers

Mn_basketball_small GopherNation

Imagescary7xfo_small Jeffrick

Img-20101223-00043_small JDMill

Editors

Imgres_small PJS

Bigbuck_small Buck Bravo

Dsc02076_small JG2112