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Golden Nuggets 03.12.2009

The Big 10 absolutely deserves at least seven teams.  I am getting sick of people scoffing at this notion.  I think seven teams is a virtual lock for the conference and they deserve all of them.  They could even argue for an 8th.  I do realize that RPI is not the only thing you use to evaluate teams, but it is a strong tool. 

The Big 10 is second in overall RPI to the ACC.  Yes, they are ahead of the Big East and have been virtually all year.  The Big 10 boasts out of conference wins over Oklahoma State, Texas, Vanderbilt, Tulsa, Missouri, Boston College, Davidson, Miami, Notre Dame, Butler, Virginia Tech, Louisville, UCLA, Duke, and Florida State.  Those are just the biggest names.  Sure, they've lost some games, too.  But they have proved they are just as deserving as the Big East or ACC.

Here is one blogger who questions the Gophers and the idea of seven teams making the Big Dance.

Also within the Bleacher Report, a Minnesota sports fan weighs arguments for and against the Gophers being in the tournament.  He makes a point that I have been saying all season: the Gophers should have a decided size advantage over nearly every team they play--yet they don't use it to their advantage at all.  I never understood why we had the rebounding struggles we have had (albeit, it has been better of late).

This lube job thinks the Wildcats will beat Minnesota.  His number one argument is that the Wildcats are deeper than the Gophers.  I couldn't disagree more with that argument.  He also thinks Northwestern is more hungry.  I don't buy that either.  The Gophers should only need to win one game--it is do or die for them.  Meanwhile, the Wildcats probably have to reach the finals of the tournament to get consideration.  I think you can make a case for the Wildcats, but not based on these points.

Here is a piece from the City Pages on the Gophers/Wildcats tilt replete with a composite of different sites in/out calls on the Gophers right now.  As an aside, do you remember the scene from Will Farrell's much underrated Anchorman where there is a battle royale backstreet brawl among different news teams in the city?  Sometimes, when I read articles in the City Pages, I imagine it was written by the PBS, turtleneck wearing character played by Timothy Robbins.  I can't explain it.  I just do.

As a complete tangent, here is my favorite restaurant review in the City Pages that describes the BEST pizza place in the Twin Cities.  The short review itself is priceless and definitely worth reading.  If you are lucky enough to watch today's game from home, I highly recommend that you get a pizza from here to go.  Otherwise, they will surely have the game on behind the bar should you decide to dine in.

I've seen from various places that Michigan's hockey team is going to play a few outdoor games.  I personally don't understand the draw, but it seems to work.  I haven't heard anything yet, but once the TCF Stadium opens do you think there is a good chance for Minnesota to host an outdoor hockey game?  I would think so.

So what are your thoughts?  Does it seem to you that talking heads have not been giving the Gophers basketball any chance?  Best line from Anchorman?  Second best pizza in the Twin Cities?

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The season comes down to this game and unfair as it will be I almost feel like the outcome determines whether it was a successful season or not. When you consider the start to the season, making the NIT will be a definite disappointment.

And, Anchorman is a great movie in the area of quotes. I loved Brick so I’ll go with – “Hey! Where did you get those clothes? At the…toilet…store?”

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by FishingMN on Mar 12, 2009 6:17 AM CDT reply actions  

Pizza

While you’re usually wrong about nearly everything, you nailed the Pizza call. Absolutely the best. Close second is a place in Mahtomedi called Donatelli’s, which was featured on the show “Diners, Drive Ins, and Dives” on Food network.

And Anchorman is the best movie ever. My favorite line is how I usually feel watching the Gophers implode yet again, “I’m trapped in a glass case of EMOTIONNNNNNNNNNNN”

by DownwithGoldy on Mar 12, 2009 7:46 AM CDT reply actions  

Red's Savoy...

…is a fantastic place to get a pizza. Good link.

Regarding the Minnesota sports fan who wrote on the Bleacher Report about the pros and cons of Minnesota getting into the tourney, I bring up this point. One of his arguments in favor of Minnesota getting in is that Minnesota is definitely one of the top 65 teams in the country. To that I agree – I believe they are top 20 when playing to potential. What I don’t agree with is that being one of the top 65 teams justifies the Gophers being in the tourney. That presupposes that the NCAA wants to include the top 65 teams in this tournament. The way the selection process takes place confirms that the NCAA could care less about this.

I have read for years why the NCAA tourney for basketball is vastly superior to the BCS, and why it’s more fair. Well, I disagree with that. I start with the stated premise that I dislike the BCS and want it expanded. However, the NCAA tourney is set up to be just as unfair to the majority of small schools as the BCS is. On occasion a conference will get more than its automatic qualifier into the tourney, but most conferences are normally restricted to its qualifier.

And, geez, what a way to select your conference representative. For all the complaints the BCS gets, at least those teams have to prove their worth over a 12-game schedule (13 if it’s a conference with a title game). In basketball, a team can go 2-28, get hot for 3 days out of a 5 month season, and end up in the tournament to get blown out by 50 by North Carolina. I recognize this rarely happens, but it happens enough that a conference champ does not advance to make it inequitable. I would have no problem with the selection process as to conference champions if they were based on REGULAR season championships, not conference tournament championships. It’s clearly the better way to determine the best team in a conference. Would anyone have been happy on this board if, say, Oregon, Iowa, Nebraska, Georgia and DePaul would have won their conference tournaments, thereby depriving the Gophers of a place in the NCAAs? Not me. I realize this is speculation on top of speculation, but this extreme would probably make people question how the teams are selected. At least with the BCS, you knew that Penn State, Florida, Virginia Tech and USC deserved their berths (I’ll leave the Big 12 mess out of this).

So my proposal is, like soccer and Big Ten football, give the title to the team with the best record at the end of the season. Have a conference tournament and hand out a Cup. But tie the NCAA bid to the regular season achievement of 5 months, not a tournament achievement of 4 days. It’s a greater reflection of your body of work.

Rencito – the game between the Red Wings and the Black Hawks was amazing to see on TV (particularly since the Wings blew out the Hawks), but watching an outdoor game live is very fun. I had a few friends there and it was wild. I know Michigan plays at Camp Randall this fall, and against Michigan State in 2010. I think the exciting aspect is (1) it’ll be very cold, and (2) there will be at least 111,000 people watching a hockey game. That will make an insane atmosphere.

I think the Gophers should host a doubleheader – Minnesota v. Wisconsin, followed by Wild v. North Stars. With 50,000 at TCF, that would be an event.

DownWithGoldy – I think I saw that show with Donatelli’s. Is that the place with the “heart attack” pizza, with pounds of meat and cheese on it? When I get that I’ll just call Abbott Northwestern 3 hours beforehand to have my room ready.

by JG2112 on Mar 12, 2009 7:57 AM CDT reply actions  

I absolutely agree

I like the way the Ivy League does it. Determine your conference champ by standings at the end of the year. Many times the conferences aren’t sending their best representatives. Can you imagine if North Dakota State wouldn’t have come back against Oakland in the Summit League final? NDSU is clearly the best team in that conference and capable of winning a game in the tournament. Oakland would have far less of a chance. The same thing goes with Siena in the MAAC. If they would have lost to Niagara, the best team the MAAC has ever had might not have made the tournament. Plus, it takes away spots for larger schools on the bubble when Butler loses in the conference tournament and the like.

On the other hand, it does make sense for some of the larger conferences. It gives them a chance to prove whether they are worhty or not. Also, the Big East has so many teams that there can be big disparities in teams’ schedules since there are only 18 conference games and 14 conference opponents (not including one’s own team). So the final standings aren’t always indicative of who is better in that case—but it is the exception.

by rencito on Mar 12, 2009 2:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

Heart Attack

Yep, that’s it. I’ve never tried that one though.

by DownwithGoldy on Mar 13, 2009 9:42 AM CDT up reply actions  

Punch pizza - hands down the best

Also: (To Baxter the dog) “What? You got into the ‘fridge and ate the whole cheeselog? I’m not even mad. I’m actually impressed.”

-or something like that.

by Tubtastic on Mar 12, 2009 8:36 AM CDT reply actions  

Pizza

Punch gets honorable mention as does Pizza Luce. But I still think Savoy’s wins.

by rencito on Mar 12, 2009 9:17 AM CDT up reply actions  

After this afternoon...

…the Gophers will be “Dancing With The Stars.”

by COJOMAY on Mar 12, 2009 8:40 AM CDT reply actions  

Great article. Great job by Dennis Brackin.

Loved the Randy Carter anecdote. Even if his lineup decisions baffle me, Tubby is clearly a class guy.

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by PJS on Mar 12, 2009 8:53 AM CDT up reply actions  

I think many people aren't taking into account

the significance of (albeit small) the wins against tourney teams like cornell and ndsu and of the overall talent level of the conference. I could go on and on about the blunders of seemingly ignorant people, but instead I need to say that, as a recent U grad, Mesa Pizza is by FAR one of the best places for amazing pizza (over 70.. yes 70, different kinds)… Also… love Anchorman, especially Brick. One of my favorite lines has to be from him after the brawl.. “I just stabbed a guy… with a trident :))” Classic.

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by buddylee853 on Mar 12, 2009 9:14 AM CDT reply actions  

Pizza and Decker

Pizza – I have to go with Marcellos in Plymouth, 169 and Co. Rd 9. Double crust – two thin crusts on top of each make the perfect thickness. Great after an Armstrong hoops game. Otherwise it may get plenty of love, but Green Mill is always solid.

Decker – not too much, but the football bluebloods at rivalryesq.com managed to write a bit about Decker out in the B10 frontier.

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by InflectionPoint on Mar 12, 2009 9:15 AM CDT reply actions  

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