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How Tubby Smith Came to Minnesota

Very enlightening article here about how UK and Tubby Smith parted ways. I'm not real intersted in this as a UK bashing exercise, but instead as a way to possibly understand why (I believe anyway) Tubby is here probably for the duration of his career.

Tubby Smith began thinking about an exit strategy long before that spring day, when he bolted for Minnesota. In fact, he himself told me Lou Holtz had advised him to get out, back when Smith was sending top-seeded teams to the NCAA tourney, in the early 2000’s. Holtz had learned first-hand, at Notre Dame, what it was like when the cheering ebbs. Get out while you’re ahead, he counseled Tubby.

What made Smith think about a change of address in earnest was his desire to have his son, Saul, join his coaching staff. Everybody knows what kind of pressure he was under to make changes among his assistants, even after the 2004-05 season that saw him a rebound or two away from that elusive second trip to the Final Four.

Call it loyalty, call it stubbornness, Tubby dug in. But toward the end, sources tell me, he agreed to clean house (with the exception of Dave Hobbs) if he could bring Saul on board.

Trouble was, UK has an anti-nepotism policy, the same one of which former Athletics Director Larry Ivy ran afoul when his step-son, Rob Manchester, landed a graduate assistant’s job with the football team.

It’s understandable as to why Smith would want to hire his own son, who eventually did join him at Minnesota. I can relate; my own son, Jack, sometimes travels with me to sporting events to lend a hand. My daughter Kate often pitches in on the UK broadcasts at Commonwealth Stadium and Rupp Arena. I enjoy having them around, seeing as how just last week they were toddlers.

And if you read Gene Wojciechowski’s excellent piece in ESPN The Magazine a few years ago, you’d understand the special bond between Tubby and Saul. Tubby and Donna nearly lost Saul when he was very young to a medical condition requiring extensive surgery, instilling within them the fear no parent should have to experience.

Tubby also told the administration he would shake things up if he could get a contract extension (either one or two years, depending on whom you believe). With 25 losses in the past two seasons, he didn’t really have much of a chance there.

So upon hearing “No, thank you,” he became a Gopher, leaving behind a body of work that was far more impressive in the first eight than it was in the last two.

And that’s where I part company with Tubby Bashers.

The article goes on to discuss many issues at UK, including the racism factor, but gets back to items that might interest us including Tubby's recruitment. The article notes that it was Coach Smith who had Patrick Patterson, and at the time Jai Lucas, ready to come play for the Big Blue.

On the Saul Smith portion of the article, some of you might remember from my old site that I questioned the Saul hire based solely on nepotism. I was roundly criticized for that opinion. That's well and good. And while I would personally favor an anti-nepotism policy, it's easy to also understand wht Coach Smith felt his son was qualified for to be a third assistant.

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Part Of The Story Is Inaccurate

In Oct 2006, I knew Tubby would be leaving UK after 2007 season. His wife told a friend of mine, “We’re moving” as the reason for canceling a large home improvement project then. My friend had done prior work for them and other UKAA bigwigs so it wasn’t just BS.

I did not know the destination until March 22, 2007 but the “decision” was made several months earlier.

Saul Smith had 2 years of NBDL (pro) basketball experience and 3 years of Div I experience as Tenn Tech assistant coach.

To show the Anti-Nepotism At UK is not accurate, Saul actually worked as Basketball Manager (a fancy name for Grad Assistant like Ryan Saunders in 2009 at The U) in 2004 at UK.

Yes, Tubby hired him and he worked in that role AT UK.

by FortyYearCatFan on Mar 24, 2009 7:05 PM CDT reply actions  

This was an excellent piece.

There were a few mistakes but the guy did his research. But I had to laugh at the comments at the bottom because many of the Kentucky fans still believe that Tubby wrecked the program at KU and now Billy G. is living with the results.

by COJOMAY on Mar 24, 2009 7:13 PM CDT reply actions  

Here's My Reply To That

Tubby took over a 9-22 team that had 1 NCAA appearance in the prior 10 years and has gone 42-25 the past 2 years.

Gillispie took over a 22-12 team that had 10 NCAA appearances in the prior 10 years and has gone 40-26 the past 2 years. First NIT appearance in 30 years (last happened in 1979).

by FortyYearCatFan on Mar 24, 2009 7:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

Gabriel Didn't Include These (2001 And 2005)

UK AD Larry Ivy encouraged Tubby to pursue South Carolina job in 2001. His 5-year contract was to expire in 2002 and Ivy would not offer extension. Tubby was 110-33 (12-3 in NCAA games) with NCAA title, 3 SEC titles, and 3 SECT championships in 4 years at that time.

Ivy wanted to re-hire Rick Pitino at UK in 2001.

And then Tubby strongly considered the Virginia job in 2005. He was 219-58 (21-7 in NCAA games) with NCAA title, 5 SEC titles, and 5 SECT championships in 8 years at that time.

UK “fans” were upset at the lack of Final 4 in 2003 and 2005 then.

by FortyYearCatFan on Mar 24, 2009 10:02 PM CDT reply actions  

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