5 Quick Hits from the Air Force - Minnesota Game
It was a great spectacle at TCF Bank Stadium on Saturday night. Even hearing something as corny as, "That's six points in the Bank" was welcome, the falcons and bald eagle were a sight, the flyover was awesome and surprising, and thankfully, no politicians tried to upstage the evening.
Yes, the Gophers won. Others on this site will undoubtedly look at good from the game, and rightfully so - the D was largely good, Campbell and Triplett are awesome, and Decker performed yet again. However, here are the five points I took away from the game:
(1) This offense is boring. Jedd Fisch calls the game like an NFL coordinator - close to the vest, don't actually get creative until you have to. The first half was almost unwatchable as an offensive spectacle.
(2) Last year, Asher Clark was Air Force's QB. Last night he was the guy unguarded on the sweep play. Be honest - Air Force shredded Minnesota on the ground, and that ought to make Gopher fans very nervous, because:
(3) Jahvid Best, Mike Kafka, John Clay, Robert Bolden, Evan Royster, and Terrelle Pryor are next on the schedule.
(4) Adam Weber is going to get Eric Decker killed in the Big Ten season. HE HAS GOT TO STOP THROWING TO HIM ALL THE TIME. Worst indication of this: Hayo Carpenter came in in the second quarter and BLOCKED FOR DECKER ON A SCREEN PLAY. Anyone else see something wrong with this? There is no way teams with solid secondaries, such as NU, UW, OSU, PSU and Iowa are going to let Decker beat them, so it's imperative to develop Stoudermire, Green and Carpenter more than we are.
Finally,
(5) I don't give one lick how good Ryan Collado is in run support - GET COLLADO OFF THE FIELD. HE CANNOT GUARD A PASS ROUTE TO SAVE HIS LIFE.
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1) The worst thing that could have happened, happened. The offense was mixing it up a little bit with different looks and sets and using Gray. Then Gray fumbled after a nice pick up of 8 yards on 1st down—and that was the end of all that. It was boring after that happened.
2) We were shredded by Air Force’s run game? Really? At first glance, I would agree with you—they gained 261 yards on the ground. But when you take into consideration that was on 66 carries it isn’t so bad. 4.0 yards per carry certainly isn’t stuffing them, but they did contain them. 13 points allowed (really only 10 since 3 points were off of the aforementioned Gray fumble around our own 30) against a team that averaged twice that amount last year is pretty decent. I don’t know that I would say this is a sign of the apocalypse.
3) Jahvid Best may actually be easier to defend than Air Force’s rushers. Why? Because we only have to worry about one guy instead of 3-4. Kafka absolutely shredded us last year, but only because he couldn’t find any open receivers and running was his only option. Yesterday he had 5 rushes for 21 yards. He had 6 for 6 against Towson. Having him run isn’t really part of Northwestern’s game plan.
4.) Our offense does need to improve for the Big 10. Weber nearly got Decker killed by the Air Force secondary on a few throws by putting him in vulnerable positions. Stoudermire and Green seem to be out there a lot, so hopefully he starts finding a rhythm with someone else at some point.
5.) Collado made some nice plays out there, but every time he gets burned everyone is going to remember that.
by rencito on Sep 13, 2009 11:23 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Jahvid Best
Is not your only problem, Shane Vereen would be starting for 75% teams in FBS
by Cugel on Sep 13, 2009 8:25 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Doesn't Cal have
a dynamic freshman running back as well that has blinding speed? Ugh this team scares me.
by JG2112 on Sep 13, 2009 9:04 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not saying they are one dimenstional or lack depth
Just saying that the ball doesn’t change hands as much in Cal’s offense (re: Air Force’s triple option). Tackling Jahvid Best won’t be an easy task.
Cal should be the best team we play this year; Ohio State and Penn State not withstanding.
by rencito on Sep 14, 2009 12:14 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
That's true
We are pretty basic, pro-style team, with a mix of zone and man blocking to open holes, and run straight ahead. Or try to get to the outside with blocks from the TE & WR’s and speed down the sidelines.
It just slightly funny how much hype Best gets, (not that he doesn’t deserve it) but when Shane comes in, there really isn’t a drop-off in production. You just don’t feel that every time Vereen touches the ball, it could go for a TD, which is what makes Best so special.
Thanks for the kind words, I certainly hope we are the best team you face this year, time will tell.
BTW I’m flying out there Friday to check out you guy’s new digs, I hear they are pretty swell.
Any recommendations on places to see, eat etc. if you are there for 1 1/2 days?
by Cugel on Sep 15, 2009 2:18 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
My picks are the best
I assume you are staying downtown. If so:
If you get in early enough on Friday, go to Brit’s Pub. There is a rooftop patio with lawn bowling. The drinks are overpriced and so are the women, but nothing beats a September evening in Minnesota outdoors. From there, you can find plenty of other local favorites on Nicollet Ave.
Before the game, go to Stub & Herb’s (Washington and Oak). Great beer selection, but it be will packed to the brim. The game day atmosphere will make up for it.
After the game, head over to NE Minneapolis, which is just east of Hwy 35W on University. Go eat at Brasa (Central and Hennepin) and order the rotisserie pork, beef, corn bread, creamed spinach, with rice and beans (unless it is only two of you, then pare it down accordingly). They also serve wine and beer there. I suggest a Surly Furious.
From there, head to Mac’s Industrial Sports Bar (Central and 4th) and get yourself some more good beer along with other college football games on TV. The Bulldog is also nice and has a shuffleboard table, which is free to play.
If you are anything like me, you get more hungry the more you drink. And you guys will be drinking a lot after losing to the REAL Golden team. :)
So for a late dinner/snack you absolutely MUST go to The Butcher Block (East Hennepin and 4th, but no TV’s there—just delicious food). They have 29 different varieties of wings. Did you hear me? 29!! And these are no BW3 boring wings. These are grilled to order and have very distinct flavors. Even if you don’t like wings, you will like these. I recommend the green curry coconut variety. Seriously. Trust me. I also recommend ordering a Widmer beer there—it is a West Coast beer that won my heart, so you should feel at home if you are from Cal (although it is from Portland). The Butcher Block is also open until 2:00 AM or later on the weekends—so you can get good late night wings there.
If you end up back downtown, be sure to drown your little brown bear sorrows at Mackenzie’s (8th and Hennepin or thereabouts). This is THE best bar in the Twin Cities that no one has ever heard of (okay, almost no one). And it is even downtown, which I don’t get.
If it isn’t too late, feel free to enjoy the other splendors that are downtown evening entertainment venues in Minneapolis.
Enjoy!
by rencito on Sep 15, 2009 8:41 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Just go here...
…it is largely the same, but gives you more options if you are younger than 25.
by rencito on Sep 15, 2009 8:53 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Post-Game
1—Rencito, nice call on your predictions yesterday. You almost pulled off that Trifecta.
2—yesterday was the first time I had a chance to see Gray make a play on TV and I see why the excitement is there. Yes, he fumbled but man, the guy was 10 yards past the LOS in the blink of an eye. Very impressive looking athlete.
3—Weber just looks tight to me this year. Everything, even the way he is gripping the ball. And yes, someone is going to get seriously hurt if he keeps throwing behind his receivers.
4—to me the biggest disappointment so far has been the OL.
5—any win is a good win and I will take it. The name of the game is to improve. I saw improvement from week one to two and let’s hope we will see some next week.
by Texas Gopher on Sep 13, 2009 12:27 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Recap
My predictions from yesterday:
Minnesota beats Air Force and go with the under.
Ohio State plays USC very close and maybe even wins.
Michigan beats Notre Dame.
I think I nailed each one.
by rencito on Sep 13, 2009 1:29 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
1 – Rencito is right, the offense starts creative, something goes wrong then they go ultra conservative and boring. Still finding the groove I guess, better find it next week real early.
2 – shredded is the wrong word. Navy ran for 4.2 on OSU last week, Notre Dame 5.1 against Mich, Georgia Tech averaged 6.1 against Clemson. 4.0 is not shredded by any means. They were 3rd and short all day long, they always needed 3 plays to get 10. We had trouble stopping them in 3rd and short but this is a difficult running game to defend. Once again the defense adjusted and it was
3 – yes they are. Best is a Heisman candidate, he’ll be tough to stop but every team he faces will have to gamplan for him. I’m comfortable with our run defense, the pass defense is more suspect (imo), especially if Sherels isn’t healthy.
4 – clearly he needs to find other receivers when they are open. But it’s not like the Big Ten didn’t know about Decker last year and they still racked up good numbers against better defenses. Like last week, Weber found more receivers later in the game when it mattered most. But the offense has to be better all around for 4 quarters.
5 – I agree that we’ll be much better with our starting corner in there. Collado is a weak link and there is a reason he isn’t starting. But he’s the third corner and there is a reason he is playing ahead of Carter. He isn’t as bad as you are making him out to be, he had his receiver covered well on a pass into the end zone on that 4th qtr FG drive by AFA. Nothing special but he did his job.
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by GopherNation on Sep 13, 2009 1:25 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
#2
You are right about the key being that they were 3rd and short all day. That is why they converted so many 3rd downs. The key to beating Air Force is make them convert 3rd and long and make them play from behind. As soon as they got behind in the 4th quarter, they had to pass more, which is not their strong suit. If we could have gotten up by 14 or more earlier on, the game would have been even more lopsided as they would have had to pass even more.
But the big point here is that the Gophers defense needs to be better on 1st down. Stopping the opposing offense on 1st down leads to more 3rd and long situations.
by rencito on Sep 13, 2009 1:35 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
While I'm on a hot streak for making picks...
Next week:
Cal pounds us 34-10.
Akron beats Indiana.
Syracuse beats Northwestern.
The Big 10 takes another beating from the media.
As an aside, I think it is complete BS that MIchigan is ranked because they beat Notre Dame…even though they will win again next week over Eastern Michigan. The Wolverines will be a decent team this year, but they don’t deserve to be ranked yet. There is an incredible amount of bias in the human polls. The BCS should be entirely based on computers, or at least much more than it is now.
by rencito on Sep 13, 2009 1:47 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I doubt your picks even though...
you are way smarter than me.
Cal wins 28-17
Indiana wins
NW wins
I’m really nervous about Jedd Fisch. Either Weber is clueless, or these plays suck.
"they're calling insane hogs???"
by CrowTrobot on Sep 13, 2009 1:56 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Rencito -
If Michigan were to defeat Eastern Michigan and Indiana they would be 4-0, and at that point ranked. But, if voters were to rank them after beating Western, Notre Dame and two soup cans, well, there is no inherent bias in ranking them after beating the toughest of those four teams.
Notre Dame is going to win 8-9 games this year. They were VERY good yesterday. No one should be shocked that Michigan is ranked #25 after defeating them.
Taking your logic to the end point – no one deserves to be ranked, ever, period, until the body of work is completed. Why should we rank USC after defeating a ranked Ohio State team? Why do THEY deserve to be ranked and Michigan doesn’t? The initial rankings are based upon last year and perpetuated week by week, so it’s actually your bias (Michigan’s 2008 season) which would keep Michigan unranked after defeating a ranked opponent yesterday. I don’t understand why Michigan’s 2009 body of work (beating Western and then #18 ranked team) shouldn’t get them ranked, but a team like Kansas (who has defeated Northern Colorado and UTEP) should be ranked. Michigan has proven more in 2009 this year than has Kansas. Why shouldn’t Michigan be ranked?
by JG2112 on Sep 13, 2009 3:20 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
With that Logic
Michigan has proved more then Florida and Texas too. End point though proves there should be no rankings by any system that matters til about week 4 or 5 but the fans would be going crasy about not having rankings and nothing to argue about.
by Jeffdu on Sep 13, 2009 3:37 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I agree
that there should be no rankings by the AP or CNNSI USATODAY until early October. Who cares if people would want rankings – no doubt ESPN would do them.
Regarding Michigan, you’re right. At this point they have the signature win of the Big Ten non-conference season. If rankings were truly based upon non-biased performance and not “grandfathered” previous season’s biases, Michigan would only probably be ranked behind 10 teams right now. Not saying that that is where they’d be in November, but it’s probably where they deserve to be right now in a completely objective ranking system.
by JG2112 on Sep 13, 2009 4:03 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
My point
is that I don’t think Notre Dame deserved to be ranked before that game either. Notre Dame beat up on Nevada at home and Michigan beat up on Western Michigan at home and suddenly they are both world beaters.
I honestly felt like there was more national hype surrounding the Michigan/Notre Dame game than OSU/USC and it was totally unwarranted. The only reason it got so much hype is because of the names of the schools and nothing more—same goes for why either one has been ranked at all this year. Don’t get me wrong, it was definitely a great game, but I’m not sure that means either is worthy of a top 25 billing. I think Michigan will be a decent team this year—8-4 maybe even 9-3 and at some point should be ranked—but not now just because they beat Notre Dame, although I do see your point about there not being much of a difference after playing another directional Michigan school and Indiana. At that point I think they become a top 25 team more by default and potentially having a 4-0 record (the number of undefeated teams at that point will be far fewer by then).
I agree that polls shouldn’t be conducted until the week the BCS comes out, but I also don’t think that the polls should count for much in the BCS system. People are much more biased than computers and it shows.
Also, I’ll take the under on Notre Dame’s wins this year on your prediction above.
by rencito on Sep 13, 2009 5:19 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Rencito
I stand corrected. I thought you said OSU would win. Yesterday was a great day of CFB. Shaping up to be another chaotic season.
by Texas Gopher on Sep 13, 2009 2:04 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Cal v. U of M
I am getting conflicting messages on whether this game is going to be on ESPN.. Gophersports.com says yes but ESPN.com gives no indication of it.
by Texas Gopher on Sep 13, 2009 2:20 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I'm going out on the limb here
Besides the play Collado got burned for the TD i thought he played darn good. He was tough against the run and held the corner well. Yeah he bit on the play fake but when you run the ball 45 out of 50 plays to that point and the only time your picking up good yards is when you get to the corner the cb is going to start to cheat up. Even though i do wish Sherels is healthy and starts next week because we need all our secondary to stop Cal. Big positives in the game again the D looked very good and the adjustments made were huge. Kirksey and Triplett were great, Lawrence seemed to struggle a bit vs the option being a little too agressive. I would like to see more Kirksey and Wilhite next week they seem to be the fastest on our team at their positions. Again though it seemed our O didnt move the ball well until Weber went back into the shotgun and looked at other targets then Decker. I still cant understand why his vision of the field is so bad and it seems like they wont let him run at all, there were times when he had open field and no one open and still tried to force the ball instead of taking off. With as good as our D played in the first half we should have been able to end it early by getting a lead the O scares me right now if they can get something going I think they can beat anybody though. My prediction on next week we are able to start moving the ball early, D steps up again and Cal struggles on its first road game. Minn 27 Cal 24
by Jeffdu on Sep 13, 2009 3:47 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Question?
Anybody know what all the recruits thought of the program and any commits?
by Jeffdu on Sep 13, 2009 3:54 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I sat by the Rivals guys
they thought we’d get up to 5 commits this weekend, but no predictions or actual verbals that I had heard.
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by GopherNation on Sep 13, 2009 3:57 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Jeff
I would think it was a perfect night to showcase the program. According to my brother it was real nice day/evening weather-wise. Full house, enthusiastic fans, and great stadium. A team that won but showed any hotshot that there is room on the roster to get quick playing time, especially on a senior heavy defense.
by Texas Gopher on Sep 13, 2009 4:20 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Cal
While I certainly am not expecting a win next weekend, I think we’ll be able to make it a little bit more of a game than people expect. Air Force got a lot of yards due to an exhibition on how to cut block on the perimeter. I don’t think Cal will be doing the same thing (note: I haven’t seen Cal play, I just assume that it’s not part of their game) and our tremendous linebacking corps will have another outstanding week.
by WhiteSpeedReceiver on Sep 13, 2009 4:32 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
de ja vu??
this season is feeling an awful lot like last year to me. The defense is playing with great intensity and carrying the offense. Eventually though the D started to break down and we were sunk. It is absolutely imperative that some semblance of an offense start to emerge and soon. I cannot remember the last time we had a nice time-consuming drive without the game being on the line.
by Texas Gopher on Sep 13, 2009 7:32 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Intent of the rule
I am getting sick and tired of ref’s calling a personal foul on hitting out of bounds when it is unwarrranted.. The rule is justified and put in place to protect the players. Triplett should never have gotten that penalty—-he did not put that AFA player in any danger at all. It was designed to protect and keep cheap shots off-limits. It is being overly called these days imo.
by Texas Gopher on Sep 13, 2009 7:53 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
JG's thoughts
These ‘quick hits’ will be the same talking points we hear on KFAN for the next week – uninformed and without any perspective. Thanks for stopping by.
1.) Fisch’s game resembles the NFL? Really? Could that be ’cause he just came from the NFL?
2.) Unguarded? Yeah, we should’ve put on a box and 1.
3.) Best, Kakfa, . . . Wow did you find that list of players on the official schedule or did you come up with it on your own? Yawn.
4.) Yes, we need to stop going to our best player. THIS MUST STOP!!!
5.) Collado ain’t the greatest. But unless you are gonna suit up, we don’t have too many other options right now.
Thanks for wasting my time.
by the accomplice on Sep 13, 2009 9:05 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
SOME LOVE FOR COLLADO
I’m watching the BTN replay of the game. AFA’s first drive of the 2nd half they drove down to inside the 10. On 4th and 1 they decided to go for it. They pitched it left. Collado got there and made all the difference as he strung out the play, took on the blocker and then Triplett made a great tackle to stop them on 4th down. Had AFA scored momentum in the second half may have been COMPLETELY different.
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by GopherNation on Sep 14, 2009 12:42 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
He should bulk up
and be a linebacker next year, because giving up a long touchdown play a game isn’t good enough.
by JG2112 on Sep 14, 2009 1:43 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Collado's problem
isn’t his ability to either defend the pass or the rush…it’s making the decision between which one to play. For whatever reason, he tends to cheat towards one side. I don’t know if he is just getting faked by the offense or he just assumes it will go one way and doesn’t always play smart. On the 4th quarter coverage when AFA was going for it, he was stuck to his man like glue…because everyone knew AFA couldn’t run. I for one am hoping Sherels is healthy next week.
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