Weekend Coaching Search Open Thread
by PJS on Dec 4, 2010 3:24 PM CST
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For all coaching rumors, tidbits and Twitter updates and Joel Maturi bashing.
I'm currently predicting Randy Edsall or Randy Shannon. I'm thinking it will be a Randy. We'll see.
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I don't know much about Edsall
but after a possible BSC berth and having lived in one place since 1999 would you leave for Minnesota?
"Brian Cardinal left Purdue being the only Boilermaker to receive both the "Mr. Hustle" Award and the "Courage" Award four years in a row"
Apparently Maturi will have a press conference to announce who new head coach is on Monday
according to Zach Johnson of Gopher Illustrated..
And that points to Edsall
His regular season ends tonight.
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by PJS on Dec 4, 2010 3:50 PM CST up reply actions
Either one of these would suck
But if its Shannon I’m done with the U in football. The people that make the decisions just don’t get it. I went to the U I’m from Minnesota and I have maroon and gold blood but a hire like that is incomprehensible. “Waa we can’t sell out the bank, waa the students don’t care about our football program, waa the local media rips us, waa we are the laughing stock of the Big 10, I know lets hire a coach that can’t win with top 5 recruiting classes in a weak ACC and the most fertile recruiting grounds in his back yard lets bring him to Minnesota where he will get at best 20-25 ranked classes in a tough Big 10.” Here come a string of 5-7 season. Maturi and Brunnicks are morons when it comes to picking football coaches.
There's been alot of Chris Peterson from Boise State chatter tonight
apparently he called a team meeting tomorrow….
Chris Peterson?
I’m hearing some Chris Peterson chatter too. Anyone else? That would be EPIC…
What does Mr. Peterson Make?
Unless it’s an increase of near $750,000 to $1 million per year, I don’t know why he’d come here.
That said… please come.
He makes
$850,000 yearly, a 5 year $4.5 million contract and it was raised to that a year or so ago. Boise State can’t go much higher. I believe the Gophers can give him between $2 and $3 million (Tubby at $2.3 in a lower revenue sport), so yes they can definitely pay him a lot more to come to Minnesota.
I’m not saying I think this is going to happen, but all the talk about how people think he’d rather go somewhere like Miami or something? Maybe he’s thinking most about his wife and young kids. He would be a hero in Minnesota and expectations are more reasonable here than at Michigan, Miami, etc…, where you get crucified for being just good (Randy Shannon).
Correction
Actually, I think Tubby makes like $1.8 mil, but I’ve read what Bruinicks has said and it indicates to me they’d go $2 to $3 mil for a really great football coach.
Contracts
Wikipedia says that Petersen’s contract was raised to $1.6 million a year. I still think we can raise that significantly and I would be thrilled if he is our next coach. Our athletics department is moving towards incentive based contracts and while Tubby’s is guaranteed $1.8 million, I am quite sure he is paid over $2 million.
Thanks for clarifying
I actually feel optimism that Petersen would want to come here and not go to several other seemingly better places. With young kids, he wants to be somewhere for a long time. Look at Colorado, where his former boss (Hawkins) was fired after like 3 or 4 years, and RichRod, where he’s maybe being pushed out for not being great, or Randy Shannon who has already been shown the door for not being great.
In Minnesota, where the expectations are more reasonable, he’ll have greater job stability. And being happy in Boise for all these years means he doesn’t care about the big stage of the major programs. I’m really feeling like he could think Minnesota is a “good fit” for him.
That and Boise State’s big push, into a MWC that was contending for AQ status, was more of a rug-pulled-from-under-the-feet event. For several years there’s been a burgeoning feeling that Boise State might end up an AQ team, but that’s clearly no longer in the cards. I wouldn’t be surprised if he felt differently this offseason than last.
I believe I saw that ESPN reported he was having a team meeting. I know I saw that somewhere.
But it could have been a message board post.
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by PJS on Dec 5, 2010 9:26 AM CST up reply actions
more rumors...
I am sitting in a bathroom stall in La Crosse and mumbling to myself that it could be Mack Brown from Texas. Not sure if it’s true but another guy gave me look that indicated it could be Brown! By the way, that has about the same credibility as these Chris Peterson rumors. If he’s leaving it’s to Miami or Michigan, but hey it’s a rumor and kills some time, at least!
by Gopher Fan from Wisconsin on Dec 5, 2010 10:08 AM CST via mobile up reply actions 1 recs
Heh, recd for admitting you hang out in bathroom stalls mumbling to yourself
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Edsell
I watched the UConn game last night looking for any sign that Edsell would leave that program and it just wasn’t evident at all. His pride of building that program from nothing to a BCS participant was really evident. There wasn’t any talk by the announcers about Edsell’s future. With how much people like to “talk” or “not talk” about coaching changes if he was on his way out there would have been some indication last night.
And where did the Peterson stuff come from that was kind of out of left field. And to follow up what rencito said Source?
Edsall
I don’t know what folks were looking for from Edsall as an indication he might be leaving. He isn’t high profile enough to garner speculation from announcersand Minnesotas opening isn’t exactly sexy for announcers to speculate on. This isn’t Roy Williams at Kansas having rumors about a UNC job. After the game, Edsall came off as a proud coach, as he should.
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Talkers
Because just like us all on these web forums people like to talk whether the guy has a big name or not. It would be news to leave a BCS bound team to our favorite disaster. I do like Erik T point on TCU coming in and taking over the Big East, but leaving a one horse race to join the tough Big Ten isn’t exactly a great choice. And I agree he did look really proud after the game.
BCS participant*
Taking a program from nothing to an 8-4 record in the Big East doesn’t say a lot. The fact that they get an auto bid for winning the conference just speaks to how terrible the BCS system is, rather than it being a badge of honor.
You were a daydreamer, a sass-mouth, and, not infrequently, a bit of a gigglepuss. Somehow I doubt twenty years of amphetamines and failure have done anything to improve that.
by Kevin Loves McHale's Navy on Dec 5, 2010 11:55 AM CST up reply actions
Couldn't disagree more
Taking a D1-AA program and turning it into a formidable team is no small accomplishment.
The Big East has some pretty good teams: West Virginia, South Florida, Rutgers, Pitt, Cincinnati and Louisville have all been top 15 teams in the past 4-5 years.
The point was more that the BCS participant label is a crock.
This year’s Big East is historically bad for a BCS conference. 1.83 SRS, 0.16 SOS. Next closest this year? Our humble Big 10 (5.36/2.78 respectively). Not to say that SRS and SOS are be all end alls, but to have their first BCS birth be in a year when the conference is that bad? Not exactly a feather in one’s cap.
Edsall is not a bad coach. I’m just not terribly impressed by a BCS birth in a very down year in a bad conference (with the ACC’s recent performance being the only thing keeping the Big East from being the true worst of the worst). He’s done nice things with that program, but I wouldn’t get too excited about him as a hire.
You were a daydreamer, a sass-mouth, and, not infrequently, a bit of a gigglepuss. Somehow I doubt twenty years of amphetamines and failure have done anything to improve that.
by Kevin Loves McHale's Navy on Dec 5, 2010 3:18 PM CST up reply actions
Sorry, rencito, but the Big East is terrible
The best coach in that conference was Rich Rodriguez. He came to the Big Ten, and with his players and his system Michigan has become a second tier team, and they regularly get their ass handed to them.
Randy Edsall got HIS ass handed to him by Rich Rod’s Michigan team earlier this season. Yes, a BCS bowl is a big deal, but when taken in the context of the season that the Big East has had, it loses its luster somewhat.
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Did you read what I wrote?
There is no doubt that the Big East is down THIS year. It has had and is very capable of having again multiple top 10 teams. So to down play a guy’s success taking a D1-AA team and making it very competitive in that conference just because it is down this year is being pretty myopic.
Edsall is far from my first choice, but if he can make Connecticut football relevant, there is no reason he couldn’t replicate that success here.
Fair point
But I think it was easier for Edsall to get UConn relevant in the Big East than it will be for him to make Minnesota relevant in the Big Ten.
Of course, it all depends on what we mean by relevant.
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Huh?
Since 1990, the Big East has only had multiple top 10 teams at the end of the season in three years. Each time, it was only two teams.
2006: WVU/Pitt
2000: Miami/VT
1992: Miami/Syracuse
The ACC is the only other conference that shows up that infrequently. The Big East is not a good conference, historically or now. They’re way below the SEC, Big 10, Big 12 and Pac 10.
You were a daydreamer, a sass-mouth, and, not infrequently, a bit of a gigglepuss. Somehow I doubt twenty years of amphetamines and failure have done anything to improve that.
by Kevin Loves McHale's Navy on Dec 5, 2010 4:30 PM CST up reply actions
Everyone is saying we'll find out today with a pressed tomorrow. We'll see
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Hopefully.
That way I can get back to being disappointed about Gopher football. This whole tempered enthusiasm thing just feels so out of place.
You were a daydreamer, a sass-mouth, and, not infrequently, a bit of a gigglepuss. Somehow I doubt twenty years of amphetamines and failure have done anything to improve that.
by Kevin Loves McHale's Navy on Dec 5, 2010 12:34 PM CST up reply actions
Go join the Strib or PP forums, seriously
You’ll find yourself right at home with all of the other negative “fans”. One of the biggest reasons I like this blog is that the posters don’t have the same always negative outlook on Gopher sports while still being realistic about the hardships we as Gophers have experienced over the years.
I hate it when you don't list a source
Who is everyone? Where is there any legitimate word of a presser? Someone saying it on a message board doesn’t make it true.
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by PJS on Dec 5, 2010 2:15 PM CST up reply actions
Really?
Some guy with a twitter account?
In the past week alone, he has said that Gruden would be Miami’s next coach, has been very open about making “uninformed” predictions regarding Edsall and Kill, and mentioned M. Stoops, S. Holtz, Schiano, J. Jones, and Haywood.
The guy is no informed than any of us. I would hardly consider anything he says as fact.
Jerry Kill is the newest rumor...again
according to Joe Schmitt.
Huge buzzkill if that’s true.
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I'm not against the Hire. he's done well at Northern Illinois
But yeah I agree..if true this is an Uninspired Hire…
Buzzkill in the respect
that there was all this secrecy…for Jerry Kill?
If it’s Petersen, or Mullen, etc., very rewarding. But not for Jerry Buzz-Kill.
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Buzz kill is right
I’m hoping this is being floated so we’re happier with Edsall.
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by PJS on Dec 5, 2010 3:20 PM CST up reply actions
I can't say Kill would be a bad hire
and I think he’s better than Edsall, truth be told. Kill has taken programs a lot worse than the Gophers and made them very good.
The thing that would disappoint me would be if all the secrecy and subterfuge was for Jerry Kill. Why?
CHris Petersen, I could understand. Jim Harbaugh (obviously not coming here, just using his name as an example), understandable.
No offense to the MAC, but once NIU lost the MAC championship, why just not make the announcement? I don’t get it.
Well, I do get it. It’s Matur-ded.
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Meanwhile kfan is tweeting rumors of it being Paul Chryst.
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LOL. Bottom line
is that Mase is coming back.
/ducks and runs for cover
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Omg. Wait, all of a sudden Jerry kill sounds great!
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by PJS on Dec 5, 2010 3:41 PM CST up reply actions
This would badly bum me out. A good recruit is going to take real Wisconsin over fake Wisconsin every time. I like Wisconsin’s style, but I don’t wish to emulate it. Maybe someday we win that head-to-head recruiting matchup, but today we do not.
Just to play Devil's Advocate
Can Minnesota ever win a head to head recruiting matchup with Wisconsin as long as they have bad coaching? Probably not.
This isn’t to say Chyst is the best choice for the program, but I do think he will be a step up from both Mason and Brewster.
If it is Chryst. There’s more rumors flying around right now than snowflakes.
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We cannot win head to head recruiting matchups with Wisconsin for the foreseeable future. That is why we should avoid head to head recruiting matchups with Wisconsin. To use the oft-quoted example, a Leach team and a Bielema team are going to go after different shapes of players on almost the entire roster. Leach isn’t even going to pursue John Clay except as a hail mary. Bielema isn’t going to expect that an offensive lineman willing to start the play with zero hands on the ground is excited to go to Madison.
Jerry Kill
Rivals confirmed it and apparently he is being picked up by a U of M plane leaving in 2 hours!
Going to start a new thread.
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by PJS on Dec 5, 2010 6:16 PM CST up reply actions
yep..Gopher Illustrated is Confirming Jerry Kill is your new Golden Gopher Football Head Coach....
Bleh……so much for a Tubby like Hire Maturi…
Strib’s picked it up. Not “sources say” but “Star Tribune has learned”.
http://www.startribune.com/sports/gophers/blogs/111355544.html
Not a bad hire, but a terribly uninspiring one from where I sit. Oh well, he’s our coach now. At least he’s not a goddamned tight ends coach.
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