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I'm guessing this offensive foul wasn't called. It also looks like Lauderdale is grabbing RSIII's butt. Fun. (AP Photo/Jay LaPrete)

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I'm guessing this offensive foul wasn't called. It also looks like Lauderdale is grabbing RSIII's butt. Fun. (AP Photo/Jay LaPrete)

The Gophers men's basketball team showed up in Columbus to compete Sunday afternoon in a nationally televised game on CBS for the first four minutes. For the remaining 36 minutes, the Gophers didn't put up anything resembling a fight and suffered arguably the team's most embarrassing loss of the Tubby Smith era. The final was 85-63, and it probably wasn't that close.

There's no sugar-coating this one. There's no silver-lining. I'm not even sure we can argue the team played hard. 

Minnesota's over-hyped team defense was sieve-like. For two-thirds of the game the Buckeyes were shooting over 70 percent from the floor. They finished at a staggering 63 percent. And while the Buckeyes were surely hot shooting, Minnesota allowed so many easy looks and lob-dunks that the game looked like a match-up of Ohio State's A team against Minnesota's B team. It was that ugly.

Minnesota's over-hyped pressure defense also failed to put any meaningful ball pressure on Ohio State all game. The Gophers created only 4 steals and turned the Buckeyes over 12 times. Minnesota on the other hand turned the ball over a 17 times. Sloppy.

I've seen some argue that the defensive breakdowns are in large part because of the absence of Al Nolen. I agree that the team defense isn't as good without Nolen on the floor, but they aren't embarrassingly bad talent-wise from a defensive perspective without Nolen. This butt-kicking in Columbus was more about a lack of heart and want-to on the defensive end then it was a result of Nolen's absence. 

Ohio State's Evan Turner certainly makes the Buckeyes a tough match-up for any Big Ten team. He's a gifted player who can do so many thing on the floor. He finished with19 points, shooting 64 percent from the floor and added 8 assists and 4 steals. William Buford led the Buckeyes with 26 points and shot a blistering 71 percent. Uck.

Individually for the Gophers, there aren't many players to call out for good games or bad. This was a disaster the entire team should bear responsibility for. A couple individual notes, though. Colton Iverson in 13 minutes found a way to turn the ball over 4 times. The sophomore has to be more responsible with the basketball. Seniors Damian Johnson and Lawrence Westbrook should be looked at to carry this team when things aren't going well. Neither was the team-leader they needed to be. Blake Hoffarber disappeared again on the road. And many of the reserves proved to be non-factors.

It was interesting to see that Tubby Smith reverted to his even distribution of playing time just two games removed from changing that philosophy against Michigan State. Ten players played at least 11 minutes. Devron Bostick's 12 minutes were particularly unproductive. 

Perhaps only Rodney Williams' 20 minutes off the bench were deserved. WIlliams led the team with 13 points on 5 for 6 shooting. He also used his athleticism to complete on the glass. There, it took awhile, but I found one positive from the game.

One another note, Bryant Allen made his Minnesota debut and played one minute late in the second half once the game was far out of reach. Like many of you, I had moved on to other Sunday afternoon activities by the time the two-sport Allen made his entrance. Considering this game was over at halftime, Allen probably could have played more minutes to at least see what he's capable of.

Regardless, the Gophers were thoroughly whipped in Columbus. Had this game been played at Williams Arena, the home crowd would have had every right to boo this team off the floor.

While there is time left to make a run at an NCAA Tournament bid, this team on Sunday looked to be little more than a team destined for a one-and-done bid in the NIT.

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Got to see them play for the first time in a while (no longer live in MN), well the one bright spot to my mind is that RSIII is or is going to be really good, I wouldn’t have predicted such rapid progress.

I hope that what I saw was just an aberration, that definitely did not look like an NCAA tournament team.

I'm feverished, or the way you want to spell it

by plinytheelder on Feb 1, 2010 11:52 AM CST reply actions   0 recs

NCAAs are going to be tough withoutt Nolen

he really sets the tone and forces the opposing offense to work just to get their offense started. PJS is right that this was much more than just missing Absolute Zero, it was a total lack of effort by all.

What promised to be such a good year has really disappointed.

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by GopherNation on Feb 1, 2010 12:13 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

They are not an improved team

Whether it is team leadership, lack of player development (coaching?), or distractions from the great players not yet (or never) playing for us, this team was oversold. Hoffarber, Joseph, and Sampson are improved, though they still have glaring deficiencies. Johnson has regressed, Westbrook is still me-first, Iverson shows flashes but mostly disappears, Williams and Cobbs are typical inconsistent Freshmen, etc… Carter has shown flashes, Bostick will not be missed. Nolen is missed greatly – I think the MSU game was more about them playing with passion and heart to try and show what they could be without Nolen. They are better than what they showed yesterday but not consistent enough to show it every game.

It was bad enough watching a team with no set offense to speak of. With no defense, this team will be lucky to see NIT. The streak of 20-win seasons for Tubby is ending soon.

by mraveling on Feb 1, 2010 12:20 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

OVERSOLD????!?!?!?!?!?

They are missing Mbakwe, White and now Nolen, how can they be oversold? No one would have said this team was that good if they thought those three players weren’t going contribute. WHite and Mbakwe were basically going to be our starting adn back up PF. Without those two we are forced to go with a small lineup and rely on Iverson and Sampson to be our only interior presence. Tubby’s offense is designed to get the ball into the paint and let the bigs work. I think we can all agree that RSIII’s inside game is decent, butnot great and Iverson has definately regressed. This is a .500 big ten team in terms of talent on the court and they are going to be .500 big ten team in terms of record. Call it a lost year if you like, but they lost alot of talent when white and mbakwe got suspended, the nolen bit is just a added burden.

by tc_brent on Feb 1, 2010 4:02 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

agreed

this is not the team we expected to see last fall.

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by GopherNation on Feb 1, 2010 4:26 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Disagree in part

I agree with you that the lofty (read: Sweet 16 predictions) goals for this team at the beginning of the season should be out the window with the off-the-court issues for Mbakwe and White, and to a larger extent now that Nolen has proved he can’t muster an average GPA.

However, even with all of that, this is the same team it was all of last year, simply one year older. Though they’ve added an uber-athletic swingman in Rodney WIlliams and a decent freshman point guard in Justin Cobbs. But other than Sampson, no one on this team has improved. DJ Swat seems to have regressed. Westbrook is more of an enigma than ever. Devron Bostick has been a waste of a scholarship and hasn’t improved. Paul Carter, who some scouts touted as NBA material, doesn’t seem to be further along.

Before Nolen’s issues in the classroom, this team wasn’t performing like a team that was maturing from a season ago. The loss to Portland was embarrassing, and painful for me as I flew to Anaheim to see it. The subsequent loss to Texas A&M was predictable, but it was a game this team probably wins a season ago.

I know this team has had a lot of distractions, but this team should have improved, and the individual players should have improved from last season. That hasn’t happened.

What makes matters more frustrating is IMO the rest of the conference has regressed and if the Gophers had only improved slightly they’d be in much better position then they currently are.

There’s no reason why an NCAA Tournament team from a year ago that didn’t lose anything should have regressed so far to be NIT-bound.

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by PJS on Feb 1, 2010 5:26 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

they were .500 last year

and they are likely going to be .500 this year. The only player that has regressed siginificantly from last year, IMO, is COlton Iverson. he looks absolutely lost on the court. Passive at times, overly agressive at other, but all an all, LOST.

Nolen’s talent level is a defensive minded, no offense PG. He will always be that, no matter how much coaching he receives.

Blake is a lights out shooter, but has no ability to put the ball on the floor and create. He will always be that no matter how much coaching he receives.

LW, has the ability to take over games when he is on, but lacks the talent to do it consistently. again, that is not going to change with coaching.

 I am not sure what you mean when you talk about DJ and regressing. His defense is still impressive, and his offensive game, i think, has goten better. He can consistenly finish around the hoop and actually has a accurate mid range game.

Paul Carter is a nice role player and could be more of an impact with increased playign time, but that would likely come at the expense of DJ, so I am not sure how much more we shoudl expect.

The players I look at as improving, but still raw are RSIII, Devoe, and Rodney. RSIII is a much better post player than he was last year, it think that is pretty obvious. He has multiple shots he can go to once he gets the ball, and he has nice touch on his jumper. The area that he needs to improve on is his aggresivenss, both on the glass, and getting position in the post. Devoe, is following a similiar pattern as Blake, but he has more talent than the hoff so his shooting inefficency is as detrimetal. I get the feelilng that ROdney woudl have been red shirted, if ROyce and Trevor had not gotten in trouble, so he is still a work in progress.

This team, without ROyce and Trevor, has .500 caliber big ten talent, and they are playing that way.

by tc_brent on Feb 2, 2010 9:55 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

HUGE games are looming

@PSU, Mich and @NU all have to Ws for this team. I know they are not playing well and they are a different team without Nolen, but you have to win these game (including the two on the road)!

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by GopherNation on Feb 1, 2010 2:25 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

PSU hasn't won a B10 game

if we lose that game the season is officially over. I believe that we are fully capable of losing that game, I think Penn State has been far more disappointing than we have been and they are talented. But they are in a real funk and we just can’t lose that game.

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by GopherNation on Feb 1, 2010 4:14 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

blown out of proportion

I’m sorry, but this game was a guaranteed loss once Nolen was ineligible. Devoe is just not quick or strong enough to match up with Evan Turner on the defensive end (few are to be fair).

Also, the Gophers didn’t look nearly as bad as you are all stating. For the better part of the first half, they fed the post pretty effectively. Outside of the Michigan State game this was the most impressive we looked in that capacity. What this game highlighted for me were the following:

  • Colton has no ability to control the ball, nor a go-to-move in the post.
  • Westbrook flat out refuses to feed the ball down low, even when it’s a capable low-block scorer like Sampson or DJ.
  • Tubby is not very creative with his lineups. I realize they are similar players, but a lineup with DJ and Paul Carter would be fun and energetic. This team needs a shot in the arm and these guys play hard all the time.
  • Finally, Ohio State is a pretty good team. A legitimate top 25, and this loss, although lopsided isn’t unexpected.

by mrclash on Feb 1, 2010 6:04 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

When Colton

missed the dunk I just about lost it.

"they're calling insane hogs???"

by CrowTrobot on Feb 2, 2010 8:15 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

true that OSU is very good and this was an assumed loss

My problem is that they were killed. They gave up 49 points at halftime! They allowed Ohio State to shoot 72% for the game. Tubby said on his radio show last night that in Big Ten play only, we are second to last in the conference in FG% allowed. This team is not as good as they were a year ago. PJS is absolutely correct in his assessment above we were an NCAA team a year ago, returned the same lineup + Williams. And only Hoffarber appears to have shown any significant improvement. I think Carter is more productive than a year ago but that is about it.

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by GopherNation on Feb 2, 2010 9:55 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Agreed on the lineup

I think Westbrook would be a great guy off the bench. Bring him in as the first sub. THey could play Devoe, Blake, PC, DJ, and RSIII, which IMO is a better starting lineup.

by tc_brent on Feb 2, 2010 11:10 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Hoffarber

There’s a lot of talk that Hoffarber is what he is and he can’t get his own shot. True enough. But it’s also the coaching staff’s responsibility to free him for open looks by running him off of screens, etc. … WHen teams are keying on face guarding Hoffarber, the Gophers need to adjust and go back door. Or they need to take advantage of that aggressiveness and run Hoffarber around numerous screens to get him looks. I don’t understand why they don’t do that a decent amount or effectively.

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by PJS on Feb 2, 2010 10:03 AM CST reply actions   0 recs

true enough....

but without any penetrating moves, the defense can switch and not worry about having a less athletic defender.

by tc_brent on Feb 2, 2010 11:13 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

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