Big Ten Championship, Gophers vs. Buckeyes - OPEN THREAD
by GopherNation on Mar 14, 2010 12:00 AM CST
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Minnesota Golden Gophers at Ohio St. Buckeyes, Mar 14, 2010 2:30 PM CDT
The Gophers are playing for a banner as they are participating in their first ever Big Ten Championship!
Most of us are satisfied that an NCAA Tournament bid is nearly secured, but really we are playing for more. This is actually an opportunity to earn a banner to hang in The Barn. This has been a good run but a win today would make this a GREAT run.
Can the Gophers beat all three Big Ten champs in three consecutive days? Repeat after me Gopher fans...YES WE CAN. Though it won't be easy.
Why we can't win? Evan Turner. He is outstanding and unguardable. I look forward to him as a Timberwolf next season.
Why we can win? Ohio State is playing their third game in three days. Now before you point out that we are playing our fourth game in four days remember that we go 10 deep. Ohio State goes just six, maybe seven, deep. And our bench has been outstanding in this tournament. Guys like Devron Bostick, Paul Carter, Justin Cobbs and Colten Iverson have been playing incredible. Add to that, the fact that Blake Hoffarber has had good games against Ohio State and this game may not be the slam dunk for Ohio State that everyone thinks it is.
Should be fun, might be awesome.
(PJS Update: Some pregame links) ...
ESPN's Adam Rittenberg, who has done a great job blogging the BTT Tournament,with a quick conference championship game preview.
Updated bubble watch and bracketology from ESPN. Bubble watch notes numerous times that Minnesota likely gets in and Illinois doesn't. That has to kill Illini fans, but it's the right call. Minnesota's beaten more top 50 RPI teams, has a better record against the likely NCAA field, beat Illinois on the road and is playing more consistently well down the stretch.
Patrick Reusse feels like being negative.
Know the opponent: Buckeye Battle Cry and Eleven Warriors has a nice preview up.
Mike DeCourcy of the Sporting News says "Minnesota is together now."
The GopherHole's Selection Sunday, who has been very accurate predicting the at-large teams in the past, has the Gophers comfortably in and Illinois in if Mississippi State can't pull the upset against Kentucky.
Finally, something to think positively about. While Ohio State is the favorite today, they will be coming back from a double overtime game. Thad Matta's short bench meant that yesterday Evan Turner played 49 minutes. David Lighty and William Buford played 50. Jon Diebler played 42 minutes. Contrast that with Minnesota, which was able to rest players. Devoe Joseph played 22 minutes. Blake Hoffarber led the team with 26.
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Depth matters
This might be the only time all season that argument of Ohio State going only six-deep vs Tubby’s 10-man rotation actually has merit. And again, what does Ohio State have to play for? A win does not guarantee them of a No. 1 seed. In fact, they probably don’t get it regardless if Duke beat GA Tech, as expected. So, do your thing Gophers and earn the real LOCK status.
by Maroon and Old on Mar 14, 2010 12:53 AM CST reply actions
i thought about the what do they have to play for scenario
and I agree, just didn’t put it in the preview.
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by GopherNation on Mar 14, 2010 11:18 AM CDT up reply actions
And a title here gives us a good chance of getting Devoe's little brother
to commit to the Gophers, too!
is anyone else worried....
about the Utah State loss last night? New Mexico State stole a bid and now we’re “the last team in”? Granted we could definitely win the game today, I have complete confidence in that possibility, but in the chance that we don’t win, are we for sure in? I’m getting worried that the committee will put in Utah State over us. And what if Miss. State beats Kentucky? Then they’ll get in… Lunardi has us as the last in and them as the first out because of the NMSU win. Some one calm my nerves I’m in Indianapolis and getting jittery and the game is six hours away!
hehe
I think you’re going to be jittery all day! I was just reading about how that game makes things even tougher for MN. Let’s just hope they can pull this off. I like pjs’s take. We need some really strong perimeter D, not even so much on Turner (who’s going to get his points) as on their other guys, who killed us last time. But OSU hasn’t been playing that great – both their games were really tight, and I thought Illinois deserved to win yesterday, they just couldn’t execute at the end. And Gophers obviously have way more to play for.
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by plinytheelder on Mar 14, 2010 9:10 AM CDT up reply actions
theory
Our game is right before the selection committee makes its picks. I’m going to speculate that the committee will have to decide on the Gophers before our game is over, and that if the game is close in the first half, we’re in. If we get blown out, that could be a concern. I think Minnesota has done enough to get in over a team like Mississippi State, if they lose, or even over a Virginia Tech team that hasn’t beaten anyone of significance.
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speaking of Miss. St....
Luke Winn at si.com:
If Minnesota and Mississippi State both lose on Sunday, and there’s only one spot left in the bracket, which team would you choose? The Gophers, and it’s not even close. Just put the two teams’ marquee wins side-by-side: Minnesota has beaten Butler, Ohio State (with Evan Turner), Wisconsin, Illinois (in Champaign), Michigan State and Purdue. That’s a trio of top-four seeds, and a total of five or six NCAA tournament teams, depending on what you think of the Illini. Mississippi State has beaten Old Dominion, Houston, Florida and Vanderbilt. That’s either three or four NCAA tournament teams, depending on what you think of Florida, and only Vandy is near the top-four-seed range.
The Bulldogs’ only way into the dance is by upsetting Kentucky — something that hasn’t happened to the Wildcats in a non-road setting all season. I bid Jarvis Varnado & Co. good luck with that.
I like the “(with Evan Turner)” line, clearly he’s responding to Kellogg. link
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by plinytheelder on Mar 14, 2010 10:43 AM CDT up reply actions
and dont' forget Morgan State
a tournament team :)
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by GopherNation on Mar 14, 2010 11:20 AM CDT up reply actions
Kellogg
I have a feeling he’s going to be annoying this afternoon. Will make me long for Billy Packer.
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whats your take....
Lunardi just said on ESPN that if both us and Miss. State lose it might make room for Florida. That doesn’t seem to make sense, it almost seems as though we are being punished for making the Big Ten Championship. Like if we lose we are automatically out. Its sad to say but we have to be huge Wildcat fans today along with cheering the Gophers on.
You are right.
That makes no sense whatsoever. We must not let the committee decide our fate! And to do that we must “Just Win Baby”.
Good Luck Gophers!
We wish you well, and good luck again in The Dance.
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by Jeff at the BBC on Mar 14, 2010 11:46 AM CDT reply actions
yeah hope this is a great game!
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by plinytheelder on Mar 14, 2010 12:19 PM CDT up reply actions
I'm getting antsy
Can’t wait to get this one started.
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settle in and root for uk
As painful as it is to root for calipari and the cats.
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by PJS on Mar 14, 2010 12:01 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
In response to Jeff at the BBC's post about Gophers ....
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Awwww
After I was so nice to you and wished you luck???
Man……
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by Jeff at the BBC on Mar 14, 2010 1:27 PM CDT up reply actions
A good natured response to your post about killing Gophers at the BBC :-)
http://www.thebuckeyebattlecry.com/2010/3/14/1372402/lets-kill-some-gophers-today
But thanks for the well wishes!
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Gee, Jeff comes over to be polite, and you diss him?!
So, how did the game turn out for you today, sport?
Granted, I don't know what down it is..
Moron, I wasn't "dissing" Jeff
He put up a post at the BBC that was titled “Let’s kill some Gophers today.”
That post of Jeff’s was good-natured. I simply thought I’d return the favor and make fun of Ohio State. If you had read the comments you’d see that, Jeff.
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Staying up late for the game...
…I’m currently in Dubai (United Arab Emirates). The game starts at 11:30 PM local time (which is better than the 1:00 AM start time last night—err, this morning).
I will be at the bar in this place below. Unfortunately, I don’t think the only 7-star hotel in the world will be televising the game…but you would think they should have a dish…
It is sure to be
Burj Al Arab. And no, I’m not staying there. Just having a few drinks there with the group that is with me right now.
This city is ridiculous. It is in the middle of the desert and they have an indoor ski hill. Yes, skiing. On snow. In the desert.
Oh, and a mall that is bigger than the Mall of America.
Miss. St. up by 5
It’s early, but dammit, they’re going to win – Kentucky looks lost out there – pretty clear which team has something to play for. Hope I’m dead wrong.
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Additionally...
PJS…can you please stop linking Reusse? And Sid, too, for that matter? That just gives them more traffic that encourages their blabber.
On that note, include me as one who did click on the link to contribute to the traffic. I will say that I agree with two points on Reusse. One, we actually did get better without Nolen (offensively anyways) since opponents had to respect the outside shot and that opened things up more for Sampson/Iverson and DJ down low. Secondly, I’m also wondering where this has been all season. If we had beaten MSU and Purdue in the regular season we wouldn’t have to worry about whether we would be in or out right now.
Reusse
I hear what you’re saying about not linking to Sid, and I can’t stand Reusse usually, but thought this take, while overly negative, asked some solid questions. It was a unique take then others I’ve seen praising this team’s play the last three days. He is right to ask where some of this has been all year. He is right to wonder if Tubby was using our size advantage with RSIII and Colton effectively.
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Mississippi St. might be screwing us
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kentucky! wow!
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by PJS on Mar 14, 2010 2:05 PM CDT via mobile reply actions
Good afternoon, gents
You broke my heart yesterday, so I am sitting courtside for you today.
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hehe, must be an awesome atmosphere there though!
Will you be going to the NCAAs?
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by plinytheelder on Mar 14, 2010 2:27 PM CDT up reply actions
I wish
I had applied to the Final Four before Hummel got hurt since I live in Indy, no dice.
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here we go!
40 minutes and the Gophers can be big ten champs.
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by PJS on Mar 14, 2010 2:24 PM CDT via mobile reply actions
Let's do this!
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I like the press
Make OSU run as much as we can.
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I agree
Lets see if we can ware them out. They have played alot of minutes this tournament.
by MinnesotaCatFan on Mar 14, 2010 2:35 PM CDT up reply actions
Goldy the Gopher
I love this guy. he’s giving hte security guard in front of me a massage.
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has he done the head spin yet?
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by PJS on Mar 14, 2010 2:38 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
were not getting good looks. rs3 a tad tentative in the post
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by PJS on Mar 14, 2010 2:36 PM CDT via mobile reply actions
The offense needs to start executing if we want to win this
We can’t afford to take stupid shots.
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Both teams are
tentative on the O end of the floor. Let’s hope our depth get us our legs before Ohio St. Despite playing an extra game.
Nice block Colton!
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We have to get some offense going.
We cant get anything to work so far.
by MinnesotaCatFan on Mar 14, 2010 2:45 PM CDT reply actions
westbrook baby!
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by PJS on Mar 14, 2010 2:45 PM CDT via mobile reply actions
too many wasted / sloppy posessions
We can’t waste opportunities if were going to win this.
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by PJS on Mar 14, 2010 2:47 PM CDT via mobile reply actions
tubbys going big for the first time
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by PJS on Mar 14, 2010 2:50 PM CDT via mobile reply actions
I like this lineup, the 2 bigs with the 2 best shooters – some nice things could happen here I think – open up the high-low pass.
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by plinytheelder on Mar 14, 2010 2:54 PM CDT up reply actions
The dude on your team with the dreads
Who is he? I’m sitting right behind him.
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Bryant Allen
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Bryant Allen
Walk On Freshman: Also a WR on the football team.
by MinnesotaCatFan on Mar 14, 2010 2:51 PM CDT up reply actions
Sweet
I want that hair. Too bad I am 5’11 and so white I am clear.
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+1
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by PJS on Mar 14, 2010 2:58 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
I'm having internet issues
can barely see this page, I’m unlikely to post much during the game.
Go GOPHS!
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You want the postgame stuff once I get it again?
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I was having that all day yesterday, with all the SBN sites
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by plinytheelder on Mar 14, 2010 2:59 PM CDT up reply actions
I've had that issue too sporadically
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I like this version of Westbrook
It’s a nice change of pace from the one that was here the majority of his career.
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we just cant let them out in transition.
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by PJS on Mar 14, 2010 3:04 PM CDT via mobile reply actions
Chris Allen just let out hte biggest woooooO! I've ever heard
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Seriously Cobbs?
That’s just awful.
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yeah I know this isn’t a Tubby move, but I wouldn’t be surprised if Joseph goes the rest of the way, or almost, a lot to ask of a freshman (Cobbs)
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by plinytheelder on Mar 14, 2010 3:10 PM CDT up reply actions
damn cobbs dont go one on two
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by PJS on Mar 14, 2010 3:06 PM CDT via mobile reply actions
I think I'm back
IE is working, firefox is not.
Cobbs has 2 bad turnovers and that’s frustrating
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Dear Paul Carter,
Please make your layups.
Love,
Felix
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Big shot by Carter
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bigger shot by Diebler
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by GopherNation on Mar 14, 2010 3:12 PM CDT up reply actions
Dear Coach Smith
the time for Devron Bostick is over.
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this game is just disappoiting
I was expecting to hold them to 11 or fewer in the first half
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JOSEPH!!
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Great finish and response by Minnesota
They have let them play for sure
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big 3 from devoe. ill take this at the half.
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by PJS on Mar 14, 2010 3:13 PM CDT via mobile reply actions
yeah this isn’t terrible, just one possession down
better O will lead to better D, lots of their baskets are in transition or semi-transition, times when we can’t get back and totally get D set
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by plinytheelder on Mar 14, 2010 3:15 PM CDT up reply actions
I never thought I would say this,
but Ed Hightower has actually been the best official of the weekend.
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I know I'm in a minority
but I kind of like him.
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by GopherNation on Mar 14, 2010 3:21 PM CDT up reply actions
Keys to the second half ....
1) Don’t let OSU out in transition.
2) Muzzle Diebler and Buford. Turner is going to get his, but we can’t let Diebler and Buford get open looks.
3) No more wasted posessions. Does anyone have the turnover numbers? I think both teams were sloppy but MN just can’t be to win this.
4) Finish! Too many misses at the rim.
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agreed
OSU is pressuring our perimeter so much, we need to do something to relieve that.
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by GopherNation on Mar 14, 2010 3:23 PM CDT up reply actions
Halftime stats are nearly dead even.
Minnesota has one mroe field goal attempt, but that’s it
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Go Gophers!!
Listened to the first half on the radio. Best quote by Grimm: “Devoe Joseph brought his big boy pants to Indianapolis”.
9 turnovers for Gophers
but 8 for OSU.
Lauderdale with 2 fouls, need to go at him
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ugh
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by PJS on Mar 14, 2010 3:31 PM CDT via mobile reply actions
Let's get this lead back down to a managable number
We can’t let them keep a double digit lead.
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Minnesota is one resilient team
I like them in this
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love the composure
this team is playing with so much confidence
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good composed answer. rs3 started it by diving on the floor for that loose ball
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by PJS on Mar 14, 2010 3:38 PM CDT via mobile reply actions
win or lose this game
RESPECT Earned is the theme of this tournament for the Gopehrs.
But I REALLY want to win this.
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yes, still in the hunt
unconfirmed rumors about a week ago that he is going to UConn, but nothing remotely concrete to that so far.
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by GopherNation on Mar 14, 2010 3:48 PM CDT up reply actions
His high school coach said the other day
that Cory still has 5 teams on his list (including the Gophers) and has given no indication he is favoring any at this time.
This team is top 10 next season if Cory commits and the rest of the “expected” players return.
next year will be fun
but this year’s season story becomes “Big Ten Tourney Champs” and not the “Season of Suspensions” with a win today.
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by GopherNation on Mar 14, 2010 3:49 PM CDT up reply actions
bostick baby!
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by PJS on Mar 14, 2010 3:44 PM CDT via mobile reply actions
65 points on the season
24 of them in the last four games (not including today)
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by GopherNation on Mar 14, 2010 3:45 PM CDT up reply actions
probably not
he is best available at 2 and fills a need.
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by GopherNation on Mar 14, 2010 3:48 PM CDT up reply actions
way too mant chippy fouls being called.
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by PJS on Mar 14, 2010 3:47 PM CDT via mobile reply actions
Minny needs an answer here.
This crowd is too pro-Buckeye
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stop the damn ball in transition
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by PJS on Mar 14, 2010 3:51 PM CDT via mobile reply actions
no kidding
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by GopherNation on Mar 14, 2010 3:52 PM CDT up reply actions
and there is the first answer
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no tired legs for OSU
guess that’s not going to play out
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Jim Burr taking a page out of Hightower's book
and making the call WITH AUTHORITY!!!
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I think that's ballgame
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Well shit
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Well let’s hope the committe has already finished
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by PJS on Mar 14, 2010 3:56 PM CDT via mobile reply actions
with the Purdue win
Utah St and Houston made things scary for us Gopher fans
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by GopherNation on Mar 14, 2010 3:58 PM CDT up reply actions
Ouchy mama!
I hope the committee has already put us in the dance and are eating pizza; not watching this game.
Goldy has been incredibly entertaining today
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He generally is
Goldy is awesome.
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and now its all falling apart
Sigh.
We look like the tired team. Very slow feet on defense.
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by PJS on Mar 14, 2010 3:59 PM CDT via mobile reply actions
Four games in four games will do that to you
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er, four games in four days*
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Buford just got T'd
We needed a Hightower moment
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they ran the sequence of events on CBS
Buford was talking back to Hightower and the second time was teh one that got the T
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by GopherNation on Mar 14, 2010 4:14 PM CDT up reply actions
I think in
You were the most impressive team in this tournament. OSU is really on here by luck
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osu is pressing?
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by PJS on Mar 14, 2010 4:07 PM CDT via mobile reply actions
Yeah, I don't get that
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I'm not complaining about running up the score
but for their own sake shouldn’t OSU put their studs on the bench?
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seriously
now they are running it up. What is Matta gaining here?
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by GopherNation on Mar 14, 2010 4:09 PM CDT up reply actions
matta is a prick.
Izzo is class. Painter is a rising star. Matta is a prick.
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by PJS on Mar 14, 2010 4:13 PM CDT via mobile reply actions
tend to agree
I really like Izzo and Painter. Ryan is kind of a prick too but he’s more pallatable than Matta.
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by GopherNation on Mar 14, 2010 4:15 PM CDT up reply actions
I don't want anyone hurt
but if one of them twisted an ankle, I wouldn’t feel bad. I feel awful about Hummel, but if they get hurt up 22 with 2:30 left that’s Matta’s fault.
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At that point of the game, I was actively rooting for their injury
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Felix, twist this, asshole
Granted, I don't know what down it is..
Ken, you're an a-hole and close to being banned after two ignorant comments.
If you’re Thad Matta and you’re pressing and playing your starters when you’re up 20 with 2 minutes to play, you just might get what you’re asking for with an injury.
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did this guy
really take a Sunday evening to re-read all of the comments for a game that was finished? Somebody ball KenK’s parents and tell them he needs to get back to class.
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by GopherNation on Mar 15, 2010 12:48 PM CDT up reply actions
I still find it interesting how
William’s minutes have vanished this weekend.
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I think it was the right call. At this point all he brings is athleticism.
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If we do get in
we will be the last at-large announced. Just to torture us and contribute to my conspiracy theories.
good thought
but they don’t go in that order.
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by GopherNation on Mar 14, 2010 4:24 PM CDT up reply actions
Selection Show Open thread is on the front page
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