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Big Ten Expansion - the case for Rutgers

2593_mediumThe topic of Big Ten Expansion has been covered by every major and minor newspaper, TV outlet and blog since Jim Delaney made the announcement in late 2009.  A quick google search of "Big Ten Expansion" gets you a mere 22,3000,000 results.  We here at TDG haven't really weighed in on the issued.  Clearly as bloggers of a current Big Ten institution we will be significantly impacted by the conference additions.  But since virtually everyone with a keyboard has thrown out their speculation as to who, how and when I haven't seen the point in adding to the monkey pile of opinions. Essentially everything written is pure speculation.  Who is going to be added?  How will the conference align?  What makes the most sense for the Big Ten? 

So rather than throw out my own opinions I've decided to bring everyone together from the schools suggested as likely candidates for Big Ten expansion.  Rather than figuring out what is best for the Big Ten, I wanted to know what the Big Ten does for these schools?  As bloggers, they are representing their fan base and I want to know if they even want anything to do with the Big Ten. 

I asked the following bloggers a series of questions regarding Big Ten expansion.  I think most of us in Big Ten country have our wish list of school we want to add for whatever reason.  Notre Dame brings a national power, Nebraska brings tradition, Texas bring Texas, Rutgers brings NYC, etc.  But do these schools even want to join the Big Ten?  We know what is in it for us, but also what is in it for them?  And most importantly does their fan base really want to switch conferences and come to the plodding and perennially-labled overrated conference?

  • On the Banks - Rutgers
  • Burnt Orange Nation - Texas
  • Rakes of Mallow - Notre  Dame
  • Corn Nation - Nebraska
  • Rock M Nation - Missouri
  • The UConn Blog - UConn
  • Troy Nunes is an Absolute Magician - Syracuse
  • Pitt Blather - Pitt

I'll start with the Rutgers Scarlet Knights who bring the promise of the #1 television market in the country. 

Jon from On the Banks was quick to respond and if his response is indicative of the Rutgers' fans base, they are ready, willing and excited to join the Big Ten.  He believes that if the conference expands by just one team, to 12, Notre Dame would be the favorite.  And when they decline, Rutgers will be next.  If expansion pushes to 14 or 16 teams then it is a lock that a near annual trip to New Brunswick, NJ.

Many, myself included, initially dismiss Rutgers because they bring very little to the table athletically.  Currently they rank 78th in the Director's Cup standings just ahead of Temple and Navy.  They finished 14th in Big East basketball and finished 3-4 in football including a loss to Syracuse (Gopher fans know of the Cuse).  Their football team has had greater moments in the last few years, but the overall strength of the program is still fairly weak with a small window of success.  Jon offers this defense...

Rutgers has had the better football program than fellow Big East targets Pittsburgh, Connecticut, and Syracuse since the Big East reorganized its lineup in 2005. Pittsburgh looks to be in great shape too going forward, but Rutgers has only scratched the surface of what it's capable of in football considering their improved recruiting over the past few years. Men's basketball is in awful shape, but everything seems to indicate that football dollars are what's driving expansion. For now, all it has the offer is a perennial status as a "sleeping giant" based on its location in the richest area in the country for high school basketball. The school is also very good at women's basketball and wrestling.

But we all know this decision comes down to money and outside of Notre Dame, Rutgers might be the most financially attractive (though one could argue the other way around here).  Money and exposure, especially when the Big Ten Network is bringing in millions for it's respective schools, are all tied to viewership and cable subscriptions.  Many wonder if Rutgers can bring actually deliver the NYC market.  Paul Tagliabue made headlines when he wondered if anyone would care to see a Minnesota vs. Rutgers battle on the gridiron.  This is actually not the point as Jon astutely points out.

Geographically, Rutgers is the closest program to New York City and Philadelphia, and is the only BCS conference school that plays in the NYC metropolitan television market. 2/3rds of New Jersey is located in the NYC television market, and Rutgers is located in the central part of the state that's dominated by New York. It's about 45 minutes each way from the campus to either city.
 
There may be skepticism out there about how much of New York City Rutgers can deliver, but that's not a question that anyone can fairly answer. The sample size is just too small. Rutgers played the equivalent of a DI-AA schedule until the late 70's (when the I-A/I-AA split occurred). They didn't get serious about football until the program bottomed out under the former coach, Terry Shea, earlier in this decade. It took Greg Schiano a few years to rebuild, so we're only talking about the last five years as a measuring stick of how Rutgers can do in the area.
 
It's true that the New York City area doesn't proportionally care all that much about college football, but population estimates have 22 million total residents in NYC and surrounding suburbs. Even a smaller proportional percentage of that number compared to the rest of the country is valuable. Especially considering that the region is the wealthiest and most-educated in the entire country. Those are the demographics that the Big Ten Network craves.
 
What's lost in any hand-wringing about this topic is that what really matters is whether or not the Big Ten Network can get in basic cable here. New Jersey is mainly split between Comcast and Cablevision, and New York City/Long Island between Time Warner and Cablevision. Basically, all that's needed are three yes votes, and their subscribers will have to pay a mandatory $1 a month to the Big Ten. The new Rutgers athletic director is a former television executive at ABC Sports and CBS Sports, so he should be a major asset in any future negotiations on this front.

And even is New York City isn't delivered on the basic package, the state of New Jersey is still a huge media market.  According to Voice for New Jersey, the entire state of New Jersey on it's own would be the 4th largest TV market in the country.  NYC and it's 7+ million television households would add mega bucks to the BTN coffers, but New Jersey is no small accomplishment.

For the reasons described before, I think Comcast and Cablevision will put the BTN on its basic tier in New Jersey (it's already available as part of a digital sports package). The real question is about getting the support from Cablevision and Time Warner in New York City and Long Island. Again, I'm optimistic. I can see how someone who followed the BTN's initial struggles to get on systems wouldn't agree, but haven't they already done all of the heavy lifting? If the BTN didn't foresee getting on those systems, then Rutgers wouldn't be in the discussion, much less supposedly the leading candidate.

Would Rutgers want to join?  Sounds like they would jump at the opportunity.  With no strong rivalry ties to the Big East and too much money on the line for all parties involved it would be hard to pass this up.

Yes. There will never be a peep out of Rutgers about this until the ink dries, but they have to be making a spirited push through back channels to make the jump, and those efforts will be rewarded. It makes too much economic sense for all parties involved. Big Ten commissioner Jim Delany is from New Jersey, and conference actors like Barry Alvarez, Joe Paterno, and Tim Brewster have all made comments to the effect of expanding eastward. Rutgers offers the best financial package in that scenario, so they will be at least one of the choices.

special thanks to Jon for providing some outstanding information, links and quotes.

Personally, when Rutgers first was tossed out as a candidate I was highly skeptical.  This was largely because of their athletic programs when compared to several other candidates.  I also wasn't convinced that New York would be nearly as thrilled to have the BTN as the BTN would be to have New York.  That may still be the case, but Jon points out accurately that even just adding the New Jersey market would be a huge boost to what the BTN will bring in and share with the member schools.  Not to mention at the very least a slight increase of exposure in the NYC and Philadelphia markets.

From a Minnesota perspective adding a team that isn't poised to dominate us in football any more than we already are is a good thing.  But more than anything Rutgers = $$ (arguably more than any other school, including NotreDame).  I endorse Rutgers and fiscally it seems to make enough sense that it will happen. 




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Something's not entirely correct.

But more than anything Rutgers = $$ (arguably more than any other school, including NotreDame).

They are a loooooong shot, but if Texas is even in the discussion then they would be the golden goose; landing Texas would get the BTN on every cable package in that state (and as Texans will often remind you, it’s a big state). Rutgers = potential money, Texas = start counting your money.

Less memorable than Sam Okey's Hawkeye career.

by Kyle McCann't on May 11, 2010 11:03 PM CDT reply actions  

correction

Texas equals buy a bill counter to count your money. Doing that by hand would take too long.

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by TheEvilProfessor on May 12, 2010 7:50 AM CDT up reply actions  

no Rutgers would equal a lot of money

even if you don’t land Manhattan, you’d get New Jersey which as stated would be the 4th largest media market in the country. You get NJ and you get more exposure into Philly and NYC. Texas would be huge too, but don’t discount what Rutgers would bring.

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by GopherNation on May 12, 2010 8:52 AM CDT up reply actions  

if TV revenue is really the greatest

determinant, then the expansion to 16 and getting the following would probably be one of the best

Texas
Texas A&M (we couldnt’ get Texas without them)
Rutgers
Syracuse
Uconn

The only other potentially better is to grab Notre Dame instead of one of the last three. Any combination of the last three and ND should be enough to capture NYC and NJ TV markets, plus Texas and A&M should be more than enough to nab Texas. That is huge bankroll right there.

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by TheEvilProfessor on May 12, 2010 10:42 AM CDT up reply actions  

A&M is no small prize either

I think they are very high on the director’s cup standings.

by rencito on May 12, 2010 4:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

i know

and I guarantee that the Big ten would finalize that in a week or less. I don’t even know how many seconds it would take to pass a vote…0.5?

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by TheEvilProfessor on May 12, 2010 8:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'm not denying Rutgers would make a ton of cash

but you wrote that they would make “arguably more than any other school.” That math doesn’t work. The entire state populations of New Jersey and New York combined is roughly 27 million whereas Texas is just about 24 million. The key here is that Texas is guaranteed to bring every market in that state into the fold while Rutgers would get you NJ and (maybe) parts of New York State and NYC. The best-case scenario is that Rutgers would still get the BTN in 7 to 8 million fewer homes than Texas. Rutgers is a better bet because they would actually join the league, but if you’re going to put Texas on your list of schools whose bloggers you’re going to interview on the subject you need to acknowledge they would be the ultimate home run.

Less memorable than Sam Okey's Hawkeye career.

by Kyle McCann't on May 12, 2010 4:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

Texas

Adds separate media markets that are probably bigger than NJ.

Austin, Houston, Dallas.

by rencito on May 12, 2010 4:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

San Antonio, El Paso, Amarillo...

Again, it’s a big state. Much like Ohio, mid-sized cities are only mid-sized cities until you add them all up; then it’s a whole lot of TV sets.

Less memorable than Sam Okey's Hawkeye career.

by Kyle McCann't on May 12, 2010 5:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

the problem with NYC

is that you would have to invite too many schools to get the market. It would probably take at least 2 and probably 3 schools with enough alumni to get the market share…whereas you only need 1-2 to get Texas. Hell, the B10 would like them both, and I think that is the goal.

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by TheEvilProfessor on May 12, 2010 8:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

Oh, I have no doubt

Evil Mastermind, Jim Delany, is trying his best to capture the lot. There are fabricated reports and then there are leaks; I have to imagine that every peep regarding a collection of meh Big East schools (and even Mizzou) attached to gaudy potential revenue figures is out there for the sole purpose of getting bigger fish interested. There’s no mistake that Nebraska had never been seriously mentioned as a candidate until just recently; someone on their side heard enough talk about the pot of gold and wondered “We’re twice as good as Syracuse, why not us?” This is why I think Delany is going to take the full (or at least close to it) period the league had originally stated to “explore” expansion. They’re going to let the market drive demand and then scoop up the highest “bidders”.

Less memorable than Sam Okey's Hawkeye career.

by Kyle McCann't on May 13, 2010 1:39 AM CDT up reply actions  

My guess at the most likely dream scenario

Texas, Texas A&M, Notre Dame, Syracuse and Rutgers. That over 50M in population added to the viewership of the Big Ten (or whatever they call it).

I just look at having big ten teams add Syracuse to its football schedule, Minnesota added Texas already, etc. It just seems like a little too much of a coincidence.

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by TheEvilProfessor on May 13, 2010 7:43 AM CDT up reply actions  

You all overestimate the Texas markets

Looking solely at media market size (TV households). If I add up all Texas cities in the top 210 markets in the country they about equal NYC. LINK

Total of Texas Media markets – 7,304,070
Total of NYC TV households – 7,493,530

Bringing in the Texas schools would be huge but NYC is still the biggest prize here. Adding Texas schools would be huge, without a doubt. And there is no guarantee that Rutgers would deliver the NYC market, but when you factor in the fact that Rutgers is a strong likelihood and Texas is a slim chance, the Rutgers resume is very strong. Even without the NYC market Rutgers brings more TV households than any other two schools combined (Texas being the exception).

data by ciity
Rnk Market TV Households
5 Dallas-Ft. Worth, TX 2,544,410
10 Houston, TX 2,123,460
37 San Antonio, TX 830,000
48 Austin, TX 678,730
98 El Paso, TX 310,760
129 Corpus Christi, TX 199,560
141 Beaumont-Port Arthur, TX 167,330
143 Lubbock, TX 158,360
155 Odessa-Midland, TX 143,710
165 Abilene-Sweetwater, TX 116,190
204 Victoria, TX 31,560

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by GopherNation on May 14, 2010 9:17 AM CDT reply actions  

I don't think there's any argument

about RU being the more likely candidate. (TANGENT: the headline possibilities for the Scarlet Knights are amazing e.g. “RU Serious?”) However, one would assume that cable is available in every household in Texas, even outside of the markets you’ve listed (Tyler, for example, has their own NBC affiliate). Texas is the flagship university of a football-mad state and would presumably be offered on every cable package in the state, in or out of the markets you’ve listed. Therefore I think you’re being restrictive in your view of their in-state reach. Furthermore, the Big Ten only draws a portion of its revenue from the BTN. We’ll assume the advertising is a draw between NY/NJ and the whole of TX. It’s the other part of the TV revenue where Texas trumps Rutgers by a wide margin. The ABC/ESPN deal is still a large slice of the Big Ten money pie and, given that they make their revenue the same way the BTN, the appeal of a game featuring Rutgers would be decidedly regional (even if that region is NY). When the renegotiation of the ESPN deal comes up in 2016, Texas would carry a much higher price tag in the bargaining than would Rutgers because they’re a national draw. It’s the same reason Nebraska would be a great “get” for the conference, only much bigger.

Less memorable than Sam Okey's Hawkeye career.

by Kyle McCann't on May 14, 2010 9:55 AM CDT up reply actions  

You guys are missing something

One thing that drives the Big Ten in their search is academics, not just money, or prowess on the gridiron. Rutgers, out of every university mentioned, is the best fit as far as academics are concerned. If you don’t believe me, take a look at their recent APR report, they finished top 10 percent in the nation, are the only public university to finish that high 3 years in a row and the only school to win a bowl game (even if it was a crappy bowl) last season and still finish in the top 10 percent in academics.

by jlightning68 on May 14, 2010 11:05 AM CDT reply actions  

As per the 2nd half of this thread

Rutgers is no better a fit academically than Texas. They’re not worse either, but to say one is a significant upgrade over the other is kind of goofy. At that point I would think an attractive candidate would be the one that gives you strengths in other areas. In that case UT > RU. In terms of likelihood, RU >UT.

Less memorable than Sam Okey's Hawkeye career.

by Kyle McCann't on May 16, 2010 11:20 AM CDT up reply actions  

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