Big Ten Expansion - the case for Nebraska
The topic of Big Ten Expansion has been covered by every major and minor newspaper, TV outlet and blog since Jim Delaney made the announcement in late 2009. A quick google search of "Big Ten Expansion" gets you a mere 22,3000,000 results. We here at TDG haven't really weighed in on the issued. Clearly as bloggers of a current Big Ten institution we will be significantly impacted by the conference additions. But since virtually everyone with a keyboard has thrown out their speculation as to who, how and when I haven't seen the point in adding to the monkey pile of opinions. Essentially everything written is pure speculation. Who is going to be added? How will the conference align? What makes the most sense for the Big Ten?
So rather than throw out my own opinions I've decided to bring everyone together from the schools suggested as likely candidates for Big Ten expansion. Rather than figuring out what is best for the Big Ten, I wanted to know what the Big Ten does for these schools? As bloggers, they are representing their fan base and I want to know if they even want anything to do with the Big Ten.
I asked the following bloggers a series of questions regarding Big Ten expansion. I think most of us in Big Ten country have our wish list of school we want to add for whatever reason. Notre Dame brings a national power, Nebraska brings tradition, Texas bring Texas, Rutgers brings NYC, etc. But do these schools even want to join the Big Ten? We know what is in it for us, but also what is in it for them? And most importantly does their fan base really want to switch conferences and come to the plodding and perennially-labled overrated conference?
- On the Banks - Rutgers (part 1)
- The UConn Blog - UConn (part 2)
- Troy Nunes is an Absolute Magician - Syracuse (part 3)
- Pitt Blather - Pitt (part 4)
- Rock M Nation - Missouri (part 5)
- Burnt Orange Nation - Texas (part 6)
- Corn Nation - Nebraska (part 7)
- Rakes of Mallow - Notre Dame (part 8)
Continuing with the Big 12 we move to the program that is the perfect balance of football power and realistically plausible. Notre Dame and Texas would bring a LOT of clout but very few believe that either is a realistic possibility. Nebraska on the other hand is a traditional power with a rich football history and many believe they are a one of the strongest candidates to become the next member of the Big X. What does Corn Nation think about just how realistic this academic and athletic union is? I asked Corn Nation and fortunately two my esteemed colleagues were kind enough to respond.
So...on a scale of 1-10 what are the chances the Huskers make the move to the Big X?
HuskerMike: The only way it doesn't happen is if (a) this was just a big game of chicken with Notre Dame or (b) somehow someone figures out a way to make the Big XII more viable in an era of megaconferences.
JonJohnston: It’s 50/50 with a 75/25 percent chance moving to 90/10 if Missouri makes the move. Seriously - because of the fact that the Big 12 doesn’t share it’s revenues evenly, I believe it’s doomed to die. Nebraska actually benefits more than the rest of it’s Big 12 North counterparts, but the lion’s share goes to Texas, a school that already has more resources than anyone else in the nation. It’s a case of the rich getting richer and the poor getting poorer and over the long term, that never works out. I’d put the chances at about 6.5.
HM sounds a bit more optimistic than JJ, but both seem to think it is more likely than not. The reality is that the Texas schools (+Oklahoma) dominate the Big 12 when it comes to decision making and $$. Nebraska has some pull since they are the class of the football Big 12 North (historically anyway), but they are still marginalized even if it isn't as much as some of the other northern B12 schools.
So can the Big X help ease those concerns?
HM: I think the biggest positive is long-term stability and finances. We know the Big Ten's television contracts pay more than the Big XII's, and it simply makes for a more stable situation. The Big XII seems to be hanging on the whims of Texas, Missouri, and to some extent Colorado for survival. The biggest negative is the loss of traditional rivals, such as Kansas and Iowa State. Even Oklahoma, though it's a "part-time rivalry" now. Also increased travel is a concern as we trade three schools within a 3-4 hour drive for schools that may be twice as far away, let alone schools on the east coast.
JJ: The biggest positive is that I’d have a much larger bunch of people I could annoy and I’d probably have a better chance of traveling to Nebraska’s Big 10 games than I have the Big 12 away games. The biggest positive is academic. Nebraska’s reputation would rise being a part of the Big 10, although part of me is convinced that no matter how good the school becomes we’ll still be seen by most as "hicks" (which amazes because Iowa isn’t all that much different than us and they’re not seen as hicks. What’s up with that?), so it’s both a positive and a negative.
What else can you do for me? You could invite me to a Gopher game and get me a ticket. Ha!
Sorry, JJ. I would have taken you to a game before this post that I took far too personally. :)
That's what we can do for you, but really this comes down to what you can do for us.
HM: Nobody that the Big Ten is considering brings the modern football resume like the Nebraska Cornhuskers. Yes, Notre Dame has tradition as well, but most college football fans older than 30 years old remember that 60-3 run in the mid-90's. And while Nebraska isn't a population center, the "Husker Nation" is truly nationwide. Husker fans will travel to our new conference foes. As for other sports, Nebraska has been perennially strong in volleyball and baseball.
JJ: What we bring is an incredibly devoted fan base. Just about every time I attend a Gopher event wearing Husker gear, a vendor will make a comment to me asking when Nebraska is coming back because they want the fans to show up and spend money.
Everyone is familiar with Nebraska football, but we provide a full compliment of 22 sports. Nebraska is a volleyball sport and would immediately expand rivalries with Minnesota and Penn State. Baseball has been bad this season and last, but we’ve been good for a number of years at that, so the addition of Nebraska would increase the conference’s baseball standing. The wrestling team is always ranked and our women’s basketball team just completed their best season in school history.
To be honest, outside of football the Nebraska resume isn't all that strong. They have a big and faithful fanbase, but that doesn't turn into significant dollars for the conference like adding a major TV market does. Sure Minnesota would be a gracious host for the throng of Husker fans (like we are for Iowa and Wisconsin) but we are not talking big time money here. Several thousand fans will travel to away football games but this merger is about big time dollars.
The Big Ten has been rather successful with the Big Ten Network and the current 11 members have seen some financial benefits from the BTN. And most of the targeted schools are targeted because they will bring something financially to the table. It is what we'd call a win-win (maybe). What doesNebraska bring to the table that would financially benefit the Big Ten?
HM: While BTN has been financially successful, it's been less successful getting into homes outside the core Big Ten region, with only 40 million homes in the United States. Bringing the Nebraska Cornhuskers into the Big Ten boosts the resume of the BTN and makes it more difficult for cable systems outside the Big Ten region to not carry BTN. Adding four or five Nebraska football games to the BTN schedule automatically increases the value of BTN to any cable system, and adding annual games between the Huskers and Michigan, Ohio State, and Penn State is compelling programming for ABC/ESPN.
JJ: You notice how Mike does such a good job at answering these that he leaves me almost no room for an answer? Nebraska is one of the very few athletic departments that’s entirely self-sustained, i.e, the athletic department receives no money from the university nor the state. That is key because the bottom line is Nebraskans will do whatever it takes to make sure the athletic department stays successful. If that means paying for a buy-in, so be it. We’ll never be a liability.
Again, the lure of Husker Nation sounds nice but cable companies and television markets outside of Nebraska, Kansas and Missouri are not going to be begging the BTN to put them on the basic package because we added Nebraska. It's not like we are the WAC and adding the skurs; Michigan, Ohio State and Penn State bring some serious clout to the BTN. Wisconsin and Iowa also have a huge fan following. Nebraska certainly adds to that but I wonder how that actually translates into cable subscriptions and that is where the money is going to be generated.
I love the fact that the athletic department is financially self-sustaining. And their non-revenue sports are attractive, especially volleyball, baseball and wrestling. They'll win the Big Ten in baseball on a regular basis, hopefully raising the conference baseball profile. And in volleyball the Big Ten becomes the new Pac 10 when you add another dominant program to Penn State and a usually very good Minnesota team. Unfortunately they are terrible in basketball and will add nothing to the conference in that respect.
This comes down to football where adding Nebraska is a GREAT addition, but I'm not sure Nebraska bring as much to the table financially as Pittsburgh or even possibly Missouri. I'm certain MANY will disagree with me, especially Husker Nation, but from what I've been able to gather television markets carries a lot more water than a huge fan base spread throughout the country. It absolutely is a large fan base that is very passionate. Though many of them are already spread into Big Ten markets like Chicago, Minneapolis, Des Moines and Milwaukee.
Let's keep moving on, I'll get to more wrap-up at the end. Nebraska is interesting because of the rivalry factor. They already had a great rivalry with Oklahoma ripped up when the Big 12 expanded and split. The Big Ten may actually provide some opportunities for renewed or new rivalries equal to what they currently have with their Big 12 North brethren. They can't replace the 115 games they've played against Kansas, but there is always room for one BCS level non-conference game.
HM: Nebraska already lost it's main rivalry when the Nebraska/Oklahoma football game isn't played two out of every four years. We'll miss games against Kansas, we've played each other 115 times and it's the longest continuous series in 1-A football. It sounds like Missouri is also coming along to the Big Ten, so that rivalry will remain. We don't really consider Colorado and Kansas State rivals; it's just that they've occasionally had decent teams.
Who would we look forward to? Well, the Big Ten has it's own traditional powers in Michigan, Ohio State, and Penn State. I figure that it's likely that Nebraska will play at least one of those teams each season.
JJ: Hey, I’d get to the Minnesota - Nebraska game every two years, so that’s a bonus! Plus, I’ve always wanted to see a game at Camp Randall, and at the Big House in Michigan. Of course, then there’s Happy Valley. Ohio State - hey, who wouldn’t like to abuse that fan base?
I would miss us playing our traditional line up. Hell, I’d even miss us playing Texas, even though we haven’t beaten them a lot. The Nebraska -Texas match ups have provided some epic battles, and not just in football. Sadly, I’m not sure what would happen to Kansas, Kansas State, and Iowa State. It’s going to be damned hard for those schools to put themselves in position to compete against the massive amount of dollars it seems to take these days.
Personally I would really look forward to Nebraska / Minnesota games. Forget the current state of the programs, these programs have played each other 51 times. There is some history there. In fact we have played Nebraska more than we've played Ohio State, Michigan State and obviously Penn State.
From a football tradition standpoint, adding Nebraska is a fantastic move. Nebraska vs. Michigan, Ohio State, Penn State, Iowa etc are all great match ups and the profile of Big Ten football would certainly rise significantly. The rivalries, the tradition and the football excellence of the Huskers are very attractive.
So is it going to happen?
HM: Yes - the Big Ten has taken a backseat to the SEC in football in recent years, and I think they are going to try to jump back to the forefront. One way to do that is to expand, and when you expand, you bring in a traditional power to get the attention of college football nationwide.
JJ: *Something* is going to happen. The only reason it won’t happen is if the Big 12 comes up with a change that makes it more viable for everyone to stay. I don’t see that happening because I believe the conference leadership is convinced they’re doing a good job. The other reason it won’t happen is if the federal government steps in and stops the megaconferences from forming because their formation will immediately cause a huge rift between the haves and have nots.
And does Husker Nation want it to happen?
HM: Yes - mostly because I'm afraid of what could happen if Nebraska turns down a Big Ten invitation. If the Big Ten expands to 16 teams, the SEC and Pac-Ten will also expand, and I just don't see how the Big XII stays viable after this expansion.
JJ: What Mike said. See, there he is again, taking all the good answers.
Despite what I was saying before I absolutely would love to see Nebraska added to the Big Ten. I think the argument that in spite of not having a major television market attached to Nebraska they'll bring significant revenue to the BTN is a specious argument at best. And they add absolutely nothing on the hardwood, which is disappointing.
But this is an elite football program, a financially stable athletic department and the Big Ten would certainly be stronger as a whole with the addition of Nebraska. I'm not 100% convinced that it will happen as I think the Big 12 will make some changes to keep their league together. But if the Texas schools are not willing to give up some of their power, you will see Nebraska in the new and improved Big X.
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Nebraska
Don’t underestimate Nebraska’s national appeal. They have radio affiliates that broadcast their football games live in places like Phoenix, Seattle, Dallas and Denver. While they don’t have the built-in TV market, there is a definite business case that their market is larger than their in-state population. And that in-state population, BTW, is almost guaranteed to have eyes on the TV not only for football but other sports as well.
As for basketball, Lincoln voters recently passed a $344M bond for a new arena that will house the Cornhusker basketball team. Their facilities will be on par with any in the Big10, and the accompanying revenue (and hopefully recruiting benefits) may change the landscape of basketball in Nebraska.
Alumni $$
Nebraska has graduated some athletes that are now pretty wealthy. Don’t underestimate their alumni support.
I think Nebraska is a great fit, especially if there is an East-West split to the new Big X.
I know
they have GREAT support and a fan base that is sprinkled all over the country.
BUT even if every Husker fan in Phoenix calls their cable company, it won’t be enough to get BTN on the basic package there. Or Seattle or Denver. My point isn’t to diminish the largeness and passion of Husker Nation, but when it isn’t concentrated it becomes much harder to quantify that into actual dollars for BTN. And like I said in the post, many of the cities that have a larger percentage of Husker fans already have BTN in the basic package (Chicago, Minneapolis, etc).
Notre Dame is similar in that they don’t bring a specific market to the Big Ten, but compared to Nebraska they have more alumni in the NYC area and on average their alumni are a wealthier base.
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Higher ratings
Ratings points may not be as valuable as additional households but they’re still valuable.
agreed
but not as financially quantifiable as say adding the Pittsburgh market.
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by GopherNation on May 28, 2010 2:44 PM CDT up reply actions
I don't know about that
last year a San Antonio station wasn’t going to show the Nebraska – Colorado game. Someone notified me, and once the fan base knew, it was only a matter of time before that error was corrected.
So…. there are pockets of us everywhere. And we’re nuts. Is that worth much? :)
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by Jon Johnston on May 28, 2010 2:57 PM CDT up reply actions
different situation
big 12 city already and it was a choice of infomercials or Big 12 football. That doesn’t demonstrate to me that Comcast (or whoever) would put BTN on San Antonio basic cable and raise the rates in the area for Nebraska football.
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by GopherNation on May 28, 2010 10:07 PM CDT up reply actions
I know this is way off the radar...
… but as an admitted fan of college volleyball, I’d be drooling to have Nebraska/Penn State volleyball as a conference series.
Against the Big Ten inviting Nebraska
Sure, a lot of alumni, but many are living in markets already served by BTN. Thousands here in the Twin Cities alone. Agree that they just don’t add enough to get BTN in markets outside of Nebraska. That said, if the Big Ten adds Notre Dame AND Nebraska, this might give them the presence to get BTN pretty much nationwide.
One concern I have is how long will Nebraska stay dominant in football. The last 10 years shows how fast their fortunes could turn. If they have another decade like the last decade, will they still have the mass following. A lot of their rabid fan base was developed in the 70’s-90’s, not sure they’ve added much the last decade, maybe even slid. Since the only reason Nebraska is even on the Big Ten radar is their football program, this needs to be considered. Maybe long term, talking 20 years here, it is best for the Big Ten to avoid Nebraska and hope they start to wither away as a football program. This would even help long term recruiting for the Big Ten by not having as much competition from Nebraska for northern athletes.
An aside I found interesting, when the guests were asked about losing rivals, nobody even seemed to think of Iowa being a rival someday!
disagree
they have been up and down, but they are going to be a top 10 team this year to start the season.
Their fan base is loyal, much like Iowa’s, regardless of success or not. Because, like Iowa, this is the one team that is THEIR TEAM. They get to pick up other NFL, MLB, NBA teams but the Huskers are theirs and that will never change. Maybe mediocre to below-mediocre for a couple decades or more would temper things but that’s just not likely.
From a recruiting perspective this would be a great move for Nebraska. They already have a foot in the door at Texas. Now instead of being the northern-most Big12 team they are the southern-most Big X team.
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by GopherNation on May 28, 2010 1:41 PM CDT up reply actions
I know most people won't agree with me on this
but remember, 50 years ago the Gophers were looked at the same as Nebraska. If they stay top-10 or 20 for the next five years, perhaps they will be OK, but if they lose this coach and have another drop, they may not recover. The fans today will still be there in thirty years, just like going to TCF Stadium and seeing all the retired folks who remember the glory years, but how many people under fifty were watching the Gophers even during the Mason years. My main point is that the Big Ten is going to help Nebraska, but Nebraska doesn’t help the Big Ten unless they stay dominant. Also, southern teams can open up recruiting for teams like MN, adding Nebraska does nothing to help MN recruiting, in fact may hurt.
I totally agree it’s a great move for Nebraska.
Nebraska can't afford to let their football team slide . . .
Literally.
The football team and university are the driving economic force within the state. There are no other major colleges and no pro teams to siphon the entertainment dollar. If the football team fails, the University will spend the money necessary to right the ship.
They may not always be dominant, but just like Michigan they will do what is necessary to make the program highly competitive.
by Chris Wilson on May 28, 2010 7:06 PM CDT up reply actions
100% correct
they aren’t going to slide into oblivion. They’ll be a top 10 team to start this year so this argument is moot.
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by GopherNation on May 28, 2010 10:11 PM CDT up reply actions
maybe in 50 years they'll suck
but so could Notre Dame or anybody else they are considering adding
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by GopherNation on May 28, 2010 10:12 PM CDT up reply actions
The difference with Notre Dame
is they bring things besides a football team. Their national following is bigger than any team in the NCAA (hence the NBC contract). They are also a great academic institution. Notre Dame helps recruiting by bringing more exposure to the Big Ten, and you can recruit guys telling them they get to play Notre Dame. One of the points I am trying to make is that Nebraska does little to improve conference wide recruiting, more exposure in Nebraska isn’t going to get recruits from Florida and Texas.
I understand that Nebraska can’t afford to let their football team slide, but they may not be able to stop the fall. Playing in Nebraska in only going to appeal to a limited base of athletes, and as other colleges get more competitive, a team like Nebraska is going to struggle.
The other point I am trying to emphasize is that whoever joins the Big Ten is going to get a lot of benefits, both in terms of exposure and money. If the teams can’t guarantee an adequate return twenty years from now, they are going to cost other Big Ten teams instead of benefit.
Another thing on the recruiting…I was just reading an article that focuses on demographic changes in the Rust Belt. Because of the decline of the steel and auto industries, there are more people moving south and west. If the Big Ten wants to stay relevant, they need to be better at recruiting in those areas. This is why Texas has an appeal, though they probably don’t fit. Unfortunately, Nebraska does nothing to appeal to those recruiting bases.
BTN Network and Nebraska
For someone to buy your product, you have to give them something they want. The way Nebraska can add value to the BTN is by creating match-ups with Big 10 teams that people nationwide want to watch. You add Missouri, you get the KC/St. Louis market, but is anyone in California going to want to watch Missouri-MIchigan? What team besides Notre Dame could add a lot of nation-wide television sets to the BTN? Are people in Florida going to be interested in Michigan-Rutgers? Ohio State-Missouri? Penn State-Syracuse? That’s the value Nebraska brings to the Big 10 network. Do you think that maybe a college football fan in Location X, United States might be interested in Nebraska-Ohio State or Nebraska-Michigan?
St. Louis
1 – St. Louis is already in BTN so…
2 – People in Orlando (or location X) care as much about Ohio St/Michigan or Penn St / OSU as much as they would about Neb vs. anyone. It’s not like Nebraska coming to Big X becomes the premier team that the rest of the country cares about. They add value for sure but it’s not like they are joining the WAC.
3 – people in Orlando, Phoenix, Seattle or Boston certainly care about Nebraska football. But not enough to put BTN on THE BASIC CABLE PACKAGE. That is where the real money is. Certainly Husker fans will purchase the premium package but the real money is in getting BTN on basic package. Nebraska adds value, but without a guaranteed TV market their financial value to BTN is argumentative and guesswork.
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FWIW
When you ask the question what does Nebraska bring to the Big 10 academically?
It should be noted that recently Nebraska approved an 800 million dollar Innovation Campus (aka Research Park) which will be built on a newly acquired plot of 251 acres of land. Approximately 5,500 new jobs with an annual payroll of about 267 million dollars is expected to come from this new development. As of this moment, Phase I is about to begin and the entire project will take between 15-25 years to complete.
Why this doesn’t get mentioned by proponents of “Nebraska to the Big Ten”, I don’t know? But I’d imagine that the brass at Nebraska has/or will inform the brass at the Big Ten of this new development since it’ll definitely make Nebraska that much more attractive in terms of academics and more specifically for research & development purposes.
To read the latest news regarding Innovation Campus as well as a video fly-through of the new research park sketch, visit the following site:
My two cents
I don’t think Nebraska is as big of a national brand as advertised here. Sure, you can find “pockets” of fans anywhere with just about any big state school. I think their brand is greatly diminished from what it once was, but is improving again.
In any event, they aren’t a bad add. They are better than adding some of the other schools mentioned. Unless the conference expands to 14, maybe even 16, I don’t see Nebraska getting an invite. They certainly wouldn’t be a 12th team.
I’m really hoping for a huge Big Ten win with this expansion. If both Texas and Notre Dame see the writing on the wall—that Big Ten expansion will destroy the Big East and Big 12 and we can convince BOTH of them to join—could you imagine that conference? 16 teams with additions of Texas, Notre Dame, Texas A&M, Syracuse, Rutgers, and either Missouri/Nebraska would be my dream come true. Alas, if Texas and Notre Dame resist our overtures, it will probably be just a 14 team conference, or even 12. Hell, the conference may just wait until Texas and/or Notre Dame think about it a few more years before doing anything at all since those are really the teams they need to make this make sense.
Waiting for Notre Dame
I doubt they expand at all unless Notre Dame says yes.
I am surprised
Maybe someone can clarify this for me, but I thought UW-UM was the longest continuous rivalry in cfb (not Nebraska-KU which, if I recall is also shorter than KU-Mizzou).
I dunno I could be wrong, but it would be worth checking out.
http://victorypolka.blogspot.com/
UW-UM = 119 games
KU-UMizzou = 118 games
KU-Neb. = 116 games
KU-Neb. is the longest continuous uninterrupted series in the FBS with 104 consecutive games played since 1906.
UW-UM is the most played FBS series with 119 games. Their series was interrupted in 1906, but resumed the following year. They’ve played 103 consecutive games since 1907.
Huskers bring ratings
Adding NU isnt about bringing in new subsribers (it will bring in some but not as many as Mizzou or Rutgers) it is about adding ratings to the B10 network. What will the ratings for a Rutgers v. Ohio State game be compared to a NU v Ohio State game? The B10 Network is a network like any other, and now that it is making money it needs to stock its shelf with product people want, or at least more product that people want.
This is true. Also I did some some research and found out that anytime Nebraska played in the Alamo Bowl against a Big 10 team, the ratings for those games were 4.0 or higher. Hell the Nebraska-Michigan Alamo Bowl game in 2005 received a 5.4 rating. It was the highest rated non-BCS bowl game that year.
So you’re correct. Adding Nebraska would be great for Big 10 TV ratings, particularly against the likes of Michigan, Ohio St. and Penn St. since those 4 teams are in the Top 6 winningest programs in Div. I football.
picking and choosing games for your argument doesn't work
Rutgers v. Ohio State wouldn’t be any worse ratings than Rutgers v Nebraska. Obviously Nebraska adds another big time football program to the Big Ten but the BT has a few already so there are already very good games on BTN every week.
Nebraska v Michigan in Alamo Bowl game had as much to do with Nebraska’s opponent. Nebraska v Minnesota would not have brought in 5.4 rating.
And ratings are nice and boost advertising money a little bit, but the real money is in new subscribers. Academics, athletics, geography, non-rev sports, BTN ratings, TV markets, are all going to be factors. I don’t question Nebraska’s overall resume, but the notion that they will equate to any significant revenue boost for the BTN is uncertain imo.
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Which was precisely my point. Nebraska vs. Michigan, Ohio St. and Penn St. will produce higher ratings on average for the obvious reasons.
I’m sure you’ve already read Frank The Tank’s blog regarding Big Ten expansion?
According to him, he states that:
This might be the most important piece of information regarding Big Ten expansion that I’ve seen to date: the Big Ten Network makes 60% of its revenue from advertising and 40% 0f its revenue from carriage fees. I’ll be honest with you – I thought that it would’ve been the other way around and it has definitely altered the lens through which we need to look at expansion candidates. What this basically means that if push comes to shove, the Big Ten should pick a school that has a great fan base (which translates in viewers for ad revenue) as opposed to market size (which contributes to carriage fees).
With that in mind, the author calculated what each rumored expansion candidate might bring to the BTN in terms of revenue. The candidates included Texas, Rutgers, Syracuse, Nebraska, Notre Dame, Maryland, Boston College, Iowa St., Pitt, Connecticut, Missouri and Kansas.
According to his calculations, Nebraska ranked 2nd in Cable Ad Increase, 2nd in Estimated Increase In Current Footprint behind Texas. And they ranked 3rd in Total Added Revenue behind Texas and Rutgers. Mind you these are estimates according to the author and he was being conservative with the numbers. FWIW, Notre Dame ranked 3rd in the first two categories mentioned and 4th in the last category mentioned above.
Furthermore, in 2008 Nebraska enjoyed a nice 2 million dollar windfall from playing in 5 PPV games that year. On top of that, they’ve broken PPV buys records several times in the past few years.
Snippet of an article in the Lincoln Journal Star in 2008:
Boehm said the exact number of buyers for the first three games might not be known until December. But FSN representatives have told NU officials there’s no doubt Husker games have more pay-per-view sales than about any other team in the country.
"FSN has also done games with Florida, Texas, Oklahoma, and the Nebraska games we have done have performed well in comparison with those schools," said Geoff Goldman, FSN Midwest’s media relations manager.
Bear in mind that our PPV games are against non-BCS and FCS teams.
Another thing I forgot to mention is that in 2009, Nebraska averaged a 3.7 rating for 9 games that were televised on either FSN or ABC/ESPN.
You're right
There is a reason the BT is courting Neb, it’s the bottom line. With Texas unsure of there future in the Big 12 and having already turned down the BT’s offer and Notre Dame turning down BT offers multiple times, it makes Neb’s bottom line look very appealing. Sure u could bring a Rutgers into the BT but if u really look at the bottom lines( if this is really about the money) then Neb is the only choice. Notre Dame and Texas both want independence for the money and r not going to give that up with out a fight, even if Texas goes to the Pac 10 they will demand the same thing they did with the Big 12, a larger cut and the oppotunity to have there own network. The same goes for Notre Dame, thats why they keep turning the Big 10’s offers away, they make more on there own.
I for one think the Big Ten
should just give NU an offer to let them grab on and let the Big 12 implode. it also gives the Big Ten the best chance to nab ND.
General Rules:
I think the Big Ten can automatically cross off any team that doesn’t always sell out their football games from the list of schools to add.
Any school that doesn’t have a very solid academic profile also be crossed off the list.
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by TheEvilProfessor on Jun 8, 2010 9:05 AM CDT up reply actions
I am almost positive
that NU will be in the new and improved BigTen. I hope it is also enough to grab ND, and three other solid candidates.
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by TheEvilProfessor on Jun 8, 2010 9:08 AM CDT up reply actions
this is not totally about subscribers though
One, the number of subscribers are important for the league overall, but it also comes down to saturation levels. And NU football has extremely high saturation levels. Getting the population without the saturation means you don’t get put on basic cable package and you related advertising revenue is peanuts compared a slightly smaller subscription base, but a high view rate audience.
Advertising is at least half the battle here. And advertisers pay top dollar to programs that they know people will watch. Yes, NU provides less in guaranteed money, but with the likely payout including advertising they more than carry their own. Plus, NU fans travel very well and this has been a problem with the perception of the Big Ten for quite a while now. This helps correct that.
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by TheEvilProfessor on Jun 8, 2010 9:02 AM CDT up reply actions

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