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Big Ten football power rankings - Spring edition

Rittenberg post his post spring football power rankings and since I rarely have an original thought of my own I thought I'd copy his idea (he copied one of our posts for a Big Ten weather related post so it's all good). 

I should warn you that I'm really not that high on Minnesota this year.  Most years I come into the season thinking we'll be better than everyone else is predicting.  You probably know this by now, but I am a glass half-full kind of guy.  This year is a different story.  Our schedule is brutal, we lost several defensive starters and I don't see our offense taking large enough strides to make a significant difference.  I'll comment in more detail below but I wanted to give you fair warning.

  1. Ohio State - I thought about picking someone else just to be different.  But this is the Buckeye's conference to lose.  Pryor isn't quite the god that Tim Tebow was, but in his third year he should be the conference's best offensive player to go along with what is always a very good defense.  Last year they brought back some respect for the conference with the drubbing of Oregon in the Rose Bowl.  Getting back to the made up national title game and winning it is a realistic possibility.  They travel to Iowa and Wisconsin, who both appear to be in the running for winning the league, but this team is pretty good.
  2. Wisconsin - here is where I go off the party line for Big Ten standings.  The Badger's season will be determined in the first four weeks.  At Michigan State, home vs. Minnesota, home for Ohio State then at Iowa to start the Big Ten season.  That is a brutal start but this is a very experienced team and I think they'll come out losing to Ohio State but finishing 2nd in the standings.
  3. Iowa - I know that Iowa is the chic pick to either beat Ohio State or finish a close second.  Don't get me wrong, I recognize that this is a very good team and they may have the most favorable schedule of anyone in the league.  But they have a few key holes to fill and they played Russian-Roulette a few too many times last year.  I think there will be one or two games that were Ws last year that turn out to be Ls this year.  That defensive line will be fierce and their offensive line is always very good so they'll be right in the thick of things till the end, but I think they finish here.
  4. Michigan State - This team should score a  lot of points, but they are going to give up just as many.  I think there is a gap between #3 and #4 in the Big Ten and Michigan State will be in a clump of teams fighting for a slightly better bowl.  I think they have a tough schedule so this could be a reach.
  5. Northwestern - Running back is a concern for the Wildcats, but with their short passing game that may not be as significant as it would be for other teams.  What concerns me more is the secondary and acclimating a new QB into Big Ten action.  I have confidence in Fitzgerald to have this team well prepared and playing well.  Their first and last Big Ten games could have huge implications on their season.  In game one they travel to Minnesota where they'll try to avenge a home loss from a year ago.  In their final game of the season they travel to Wisconsin with a chance to notch a big upset win on the road and solidify their bowl position.
  6. Penn State - The Nittany Lions lost a lot from last year's team.  Replacing six All Big Ten first teamers is really hard to do.  The offense may really struggle while the defense should be rather stout.  They travel to Iowa and Ohio State, but after that the schedule is favorable to them finishing higher than sixth.  I may be buying into the demise of the Nittany Lions in 2010, or maybe it is just wishful thinking that the Gophers will be able to sneak up and pass them this year.
  7. Minnesota - If I were feeling more confident in the season I could conceivably pick the Gophers ahead of Penn State.  I believe the offense will be better.  The line will be improved, Weber will make fewer mistakes and the running game will be stronger.  But I do not believe it will be significantly better.  Let's say they average 5 more points and 75 more yards per game.  That still ranks them 7th in scoring and total offense in the Big Ten.  Those would be very significant improvements which I do not anticipate.  Defensively I think the rushing defense will be about the same and the pass defense will give up a few more yards this season.  Nets out to the defense finishing about in the middle of the pack again.  I think we'll give up 24 points per game and score about 24 points per game which means our season record will probably be 0-0-12.
  8. Purdue - Ralph Bolden tearing his ACL was a huge blow to the Boilermakers.  But even before the injury I wasn't buying into the Purdue hype.  Yes they surpassed all expectations last year and yes they upset Ohio State for arguably the biggest win of the year in the Big Ten.  But they lose their entire secondary, three along the offensive line, three starting receivers and their starting QB.  None are easy to replace and I think Purdue turns a year rather similar to last season.
  9. Michigan - If you can ignore the name on the front of the jersey and tell me where would you slot this team.  A defense that gave up 27 points and nearly 400 yards every game last year.  Add to that fact that they lost their starting linebackers (wrong), their best lineman and probably their best defensive back.  If it were not "Michigan" this is where most would slot this team.  The offense should be very potent but the defense may not be able to stop anybody.  The schedule doesn't do them any favors (they don't get to play Minnesota for one) and I see another down year for Michigan.
  10. Indiana - The Hoosiers should be able to move the ball through the air.  But overall this is a very young team that will struggle yet again in the Big Ten.  What a terrible time for the Gophers to miss the Hoosiers on their schedule.  Offensively I really like their receivers and Ben Chappell is a solid QB.  But there are just two seniors on the defense and they will really struggle to beat anybody in the Big Ten this year.
  11. Illinois - The Illini will be rather interesting this season with a new set of coordinators primed to take the fall for the Zooker.  I see all four of their road games as losses, the Ohio State game at home is a loss as well.  So that leaves them with three home games to get themselves out of the cellar.  Indiana, Purdue and Minnesota come to Illinois this year and those games will be what determines their final standing.  I just don't see the talent, the coaching or the schedule to get this team more than a win or two in the Big Ten.

OK, so maybe I'm a little bit more optimistic than Rittenberg was and I see the potential to sneak up another spot ahead of Penn State who we get at home and may be unusually down this year.  It pains me to put Iowa and Wisconsin that high in the standings while watching the Gophers languish near the bottom.  We all know that Brewster desperately needs to beat one of them this year to end his winless streak against rivals, but is going to be a tall order. 

I know it is very early but at this point, this is how I see the Big Ten shaking out.

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Michigan didn’t lose any linebackers (depending on how you classify S/LB Stevie Brown). They have a 3-year and a 4-year starter coming back.

by sullivti on May 3, 2010 11:40 AM CDT reply actions  

I don't know the Mich depth chart intimately but...

what I saw had them losing Brown, Ezeh and Mouton. Very possible that I am very wrong but that was the info I was going off. Please correct me.

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by GopherNation on May 3, 2010 12:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

You

are most definitely wrong on that front. Stevie Brown is now a Raider. Michigan is switching to a form of 3-3-5. The three LBs in that formation are Sophomore Craig Roh, and Seniors Obi Ezeh and Jonas Mouton.

Now Ezeh and Mouton both were benched in 2009 and may be again this year if they don’t perform. But no pure LBs have left the Michigan team.

For the rest, well, there’s too much talent, young and old, on the team to not have a winning record. You’ll be drooling over redshirt freshman left tackle Taylor Lewan, who will likely start this fall.

Yes, this is the guy whose father was a Gopher.

So, they’ll win this fall, and if they don’t, well, Jim Harbaugh is going to win a Big Ten title in 2011.

by JG2112 on May 3, 2010 9:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

I thought you guys hated him for ragging on Michigan academics?

I know about your diabolical plan.

by KevinHD on May 4, 2010 8:40 AM CDT up reply actions  

In fact

Mike Hart said that he’s no longer “a Michigan man.”

I know about your diabolical plan.

by KevinHD on May 4, 2010 8:56 AM CDT up reply actions  

One of

Jim Harbaugh’s best friends is David Brandon, the new Michigan AD.

by JG2112 on May 4, 2010 9:10 AM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah, but

is Jim Harbaugh a michigan man or is mike hart a whining liar? (See what I did there?)

I know about your diabolical plan.

by KevinHD on May 4, 2010 11:45 AM CDT up reply actions  

ouch

6th?

We talked about this over at BSD, but I’m blind to whatever it is everyone loves about Wisconsin. Maybe not getting to see them against Penn State meant I am underexposed, but what exactly did they do last year that makes you think they’re in for a big jump in 2010?

I know about your diabolical plan.

by KevinHD on May 3, 2010 11:40 AM CDT reply actions  

10-3 overall, 5-3 in conference. Plus they bring a lot back, except Clay but they have several good RBs. They aren’t a sexy team but they get it done. Even if they are just “as good” as last year, they bump up a little due to PSU stepping back and I don’t give a lot of love to Iowa in this ranking.

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by GopherNation on May 3, 2010 12:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

well psu and wiscy don't play, which is annoying.

But here are Wiscy’s scores, most of which are games I didn’t watch because they were dull:

September 5 Northern Illinois W 28-20 1-0 (0-0)
September 12 Fresno State W 34-31 2-0 (0-0)
September 19 Wofford W 44-14 3-0 (0-0)
September 26 Michigan State W 38-30 4-0 (1-0)
October 3 at Minnesota W 31-28 5-0 (2-0)
October 10 at No. 9 Ohio State L 31-13 5-1 (2-1)
October 17 No. 11 Iowa L 20-10 5-2 (2-2)
October 31 Purdue W 37-0 6-2 (3-2)
November 7 at Indiana W 31-28 7-2 (4-2)
November 14 Michigan W 45-24 8-2 (5-2)
November 21 at Northwestern L 33-31 8-3 (5-3)
December 5 at Hawaii W 51-10 9-3 (5-3)
December 29 vs. No. 15 Miami (FL)* W 20-14 10-3 (5-3)

It seems to be they had just as many close call wins as Iowa.

I’m not saying they won’t be #2/#3, I’m just saying I don’t understand why everyone is so confident they won’t finish lower than that.

And I’m not worked up, I just think it’s interesting. Trying to pass the time like the rest of you, obviously.

I know about your diabolical plan.

by KevinHD on May 3, 2010 3:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

statistically

they were very similar to Penn St last year, with a similarly weak schedule. They just bring a lot back after a 10-3 season capped by dominating Miami (late Hurricane TD made is appear closer but statistically they dominated).

Iowa won with dramatic comebacks after playing really bad stretches. Trailing 24-14 at home vs Indiana in the 4th quarter or scoring on last play of the game to beat MSU. They were a very good team and will be a very good team in 2010, but it may not be the next logical step many are predicting.

I think were Wisconsin a sexier or more nationally relevant team, they’d be getting far more hype then they are getting. I’m not calling for a BCS game (no more than you are saying they are terrible), but I think there is reason for optimism.

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by GopherNation on May 3, 2010 4:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

Regarding Iowa

let’s not forget they needed to block two field goals to beat Northern Iowa, and, had Tate Forcier not gotten concussed with five minutes to go, they probably would have lost to Michigan as well (as it was, Michigan was 20 yards from a game winning FG attempt when Denard missed a wide open pass underneath and threw a game ending INT). So yeah, I can pick out at least 5 games where Iowa almost lost. But, they won, so, yeah.

by JG2112 on May 3, 2010 10:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

Regarding Alabama

let’s not forget they also needed a few lucky bounces/calls/chokes to win a few very close games last year. That’s why I refuse to recognize them as National Champions. Also, I refuse to consider Boise State’s win against Oklahoma in the Fiesta Bowl a few years ago because it required all sorts of “trick” plays. But enough of this football crap; I can’t wait to see if Butler can repeat as Men’s Basketball Champions this year (because they really should have beaten Duke).

Less memorable than Sam Okey's Hawkeye career.

by Kyle McCann't on May 10, 2010 11:21 AM CDT up reply actions  

Not sure what you mean by statistically; I don’t think the teams were as similar as you are suggesting. Penn State gave up 9.5 ppg during the regular season (not counting that 6-3 bowl game, which would lower the number but probably shouldn’t count), Wiscy gave up almost 20. Penn State beat Northwestern, Wiscy didn’t. Penn State’s average margin in big ten victories was 19 points, Wiscy’s was 14.

I know about your diabolical plan.

by KevinHD on May 4, 2010 8:54 AM CDT up reply actions  

they both finished in Big Ten stat rankings right around each other

Total Offense
1-Wis
2-PSU

Total Defense
2-PSU
4-Wis

Scoring Offense
1-Wis
5-PSU

Scoring Defense
1-PSU
4-Wis

In 2009 Penn State was clearly better than Wisconsin, nobody is arguing that fact. But Wisconsin brings nearly everybody back from what was a very good team. The #1 offense and a top 4/5 defense returning the vast majority of their starters is reason for Badger fans to be optimistic.

I wasn’t saying in 2009 they were identical but similar.

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by GopherNation on May 4, 2010 9:15 AM CDT up reply actions  

And to think

some people thought Bielema was on the fast track to a pink slip last year.

by JG2112 on May 4, 2010 9:19 AM CDT up reply actions  

let's help raise the expectations for Wisconsin

to be so high that he’ll inevitably fall short and then get that pink slip!

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by GopherNation on May 4, 2010 9:20 AM CDT up reply actions  

I hate to say it

But we Penn Staters would prefer they keep Bielema around. He’s been almost as good to us as DickRod and Dantonio (Dantonio being, I believe, the only one of those three who has beaten us, but that led to unfathomable thrashings two seasons in a row).

"Every player we have, someone-maybe a parent, a grandparent, someone-poured their soul into that young man. They are handing that young man off to us. They are giving us their treasure, and it's our job to make sure we give them back that young man intact and ready to face the world."

-J.V.Pa.

by psume06 on May 5, 2010 7:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

I would understand your aversion to the Wisconsin love

if I were picking them to beat Ohio State, which I’m not. But after the Buckeye’s there are handful of teams capable of finishing 2nd in the Big Ten. I went with Wisconsin.

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by GopherNation on May 4, 2010 9:19 AM CDT up reply actions  

GN

Seriously – John Clay was out for the spring, but he’s back, and the defending Big Ten OPOTY.

by JG2112 on May 3, 2010 9:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

Remember...this is meant to create dialogue

I’m afraid people are going to get all worked up, but remember that this is May 3rd. I’m sure that come August I’ll change these rankings significantly. I’m not trying to be the earliest published rankings that are 100% accurate (though if I’m right I’ll be sure to point that out) and I’m not making stuff up to try and generate hits.

With the limited information I had at my disposal and making some very early projections, this is how I see it.

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by GopherNation on May 3, 2010 1:04 PM CDT reply actions  

Couple of Thoughts

I’m of the mindset that defense, for the most part, still reigns supreme in the Big Ten. That’s why teams like Iowa and Penn State can be consistent winners year in and year out, and why Michigan absolutely sucked last year.

That said, I think Iowa should be ranked ahead of Wisconsin. As much as I like Clay, Tolzien and the up-and-coming Nick Toon, Iowa is also stocked with skill players this year and they always manage to reload on defense.

I never understand this fascination with Michigan State, even though it seems to be consistent among the sports blogs. The historic problem with this team is that somehow, their offense will inexplicably disappear at the most inopportune times. It generally costs them two games every year.

I felt a little wary about putting Minnesota as high as they are on the list, but looking at the rest of the list… I guess there isn’t much to complain about. This team has talent, but depth has been an absolute killer. I do not think MarQueis Gray can run this offense, simply because I don’t think he understands the need to control the football. I just hope that Weber has someone to whom he can throw this year.

In full disclosure, I am an NU alum. After reading these ranking, I do have to thank you— not for where you think we rank, but more of why you put us there. We think there are quite a few question marks to figure out for Northwestern’s team, but I really appreciate that you value our coach as a significant reason why we are capable of being at least a middle-of-the-pack team.

Best of luck to you guys as the season draws near!

by Sasser on May 3, 2010 10:52 PM CDT reply actions  

Middle of Pack

Fair picks. I do respect Fitz and the Cats for always being better than on paper but just think they may get a year where their top-heavy passing offense catches up w/ a new QB, inexperienced RBs and a few less known receivers. Since Gophers get them at home, I see MN getting to switch places with NW and PSU in your rankings. Just a feeling MN beats PSU this year. I will be shocked if anyone can replace OSU, IA an WI out of the top three – but after that nothing will surprise me from the other 8 and it could get to be quite a weekly roller derby to finish in a respectable 4th and 5th in the conference.

by olygopher on May 4, 2010 12:10 AM CDT reply actions  

Sheik pick?

You don’t mean “chic” do you?

I don’t see either Wisconsin or Iowa finishing there. Iowa loses A LOT, and has injury questions at RB. And I really was never that impressed with Wisco last year, either. Perhaps it’s homerism, perhaps it’s gut instinct, or perhaps it’s just that they didn’t do anything really that special (outside of their trap game clinic against us in the 2nd half).

Everyone fails. The successful learn from their failures. I just wish we'd quit giving ourselves so many learning opportunities.

by WhiteSpeedReceiver on May 4, 2010 6:48 AM CDT reply actions  

And then I look at the rest of the Big Ten again...

And maybe Wisco and Iowa aren’t in bad places.

Everyone fails. The successful learn from their failures. I just wish we'd quit giving ourselves so many learning opportunities.

by WhiteSpeedReceiver on May 4, 2010 6:58 AM CDT up reply actions  

yes, I did mean chic

pretty sure this isn’t the first time you’ve corrected me on the use of that word.

Or maybe I was trying to say that a Saudi Sheik was actually making some Big Ten predictions.

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by GopherNation on May 4, 2010 8:24 AM CDT up reply actions  

I apologize

that was a poorly written piece. For the most part I stand by the rankings, but I was clearly wrong on several players. I used rivals depth charts as my guide because in early May it is hard to find a depth chart. Rivals tells you when it was last updated. So in the case of Michigan it was last updated last fall so if there was a senior listed on the depth chart I assumed he was no longer on the team (same for my Clay comment regarding Wisconsin). I obviously didn’t take the time to double check or find better depth charts. Not Rivals fault, it is mine for trying to get something out quickly without putting in the necessary time.

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by GopherNation on May 4, 2010 8:26 AM CDT reply actions  

eh, i wouldn't apologize

this is what happens in the offseason, we find articles and then rag on them because they don’t align with our opinions.

I know about your diabolical plan.

by KevinHD on May 4, 2010 8:57 AM CDT up reply actions  

GN

shake it off. We are in “no man’s land” when it comes to CFB right now. Anything you throw out there is better than nothing.

by Texas Gopher on May 4, 2010 8:38 AM CDT reply actions  

Good Point

TG it gets the conversation started and we all learn from the corrections.

"they're calling insane hogs???"

by CrowTrobot on May 4, 2010 8:40 AM CDT up reply actions  

The two variables that we can never account for in trying to figure out who is going to land where (except for the biggest one, injuries) are experience in the program combined with age. The top 3 teams are veteran teams with their key players having 3 – 4 years in the program. If we could figure out which teams in the bottom 8 have enough players with significant playing experience, combined with a lot of time in their respective programs, that could better help determine who could stand out in those 8 bottom teams (FWIW, I believe the three teams who will have the right mix of talent, experience and age this fall to have successful seasons are Michigan State, Minnesota, and Michigan).

by JG2112 on May 4, 2010 9:17 AM CDT reply actions  

those three teams

I think they’ll all be able to score points, the question is how will their defenses come together.

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by GopherNation on May 4, 2010 9:21 AM CDT up reply actions  

Exactly

all three of those teams will have solid to good front sevens. Their seasons will be dependent upon the competence of their secondaries.

by JG2112 on May 6, 2010 9:40 AM CDT up reply actions  

Purdue doesn't lose its 3 starting WR's....

They lose Valentin…everyone else is back, including their top receiver, Keith Smith. We won’t miss a beat at WR.

Nobody cares about your fantasy baseball team

by carmen_fanzone on May 5, 2010 4:28 PM CDT reply actions  

PSU 6th!?!?!?! You should honestly just quit writing about college football right now, save your self some embarrassment.

by PSU#1 on May 5, 2010 8:05 PM CDT reply actions  

it's been known to happen

they’ve lost a ton of talent and regardless of how many stars is replacing that talent there is great chance for drop off in production. I know there is plenty in the post that is indefensible, but PSU could in fact finish 6th (they did finish tied for 5th/6th in 2007, it is possible).

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by GopherNation on May 6, 2010 7:35 AM CDT up reply actions  

When someone does not even post under their usual profile, you should just ignore them GN. This is probably panty-hawk.

"they're calling insane hogs???"

by CrowTrobot on May 6, 2010 8:04 AM CDT up reply actions  

maybe

I’m already embarrassed by this post and it is probably the one thing I’ve written that I DIDN’T want linked by Rittenberg. Lesson learned, not posting is better than posting with wrong information. I don’t care about people quibbling with the rankings, but I had bad information and some stuff was just plain wrong.

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by GopherNation on May 6, 2010 9:45 AM CDT up reply actions  

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