NCAA Reportedly Brings Down the Hammer on USC
by Buck Bravo on Jun 10, 2010 5:00 AM CDT
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PrintMark McGwire and Sammy Sosa hitting 60 plus home runs while sporting super-sized muscles. The New England Patriots' apparent coaching genius at predicting competitor's plays. Andre Agassi's hair. If it seems too good to be true, it often is. Remember the last decade when USC always looked like a team manned by professional football players? According to the Washington Post, you can add them to the list:
Two media outlets are reporting the NCAA has decided to ban USC's football team from the postseason for two years and strip the program of scholarships.
The Los Angeles Times reported the NCAA sanctions include the loss of more than 20 scholarships. According to a story posted on ESPN.com on Wednesday night, the Trojans also will forfeit wins "from at least the 2004 season."
The sanctions follow an investigation that Reggie Bush and his family were effectively paid over $100,000 by marketing agents, while Joe McKnight was given a Land Rover:
The Trojans brought O.J. Mayo in to their basketball program in the most publicly illegal way possible. Their best football player of the last decade, Reggie Bush, reportedly took hundreds of thousands of dollars from a wannabe sports marketer while in school. Their best running back last season, Joe McKnight, reportedly drove a Land Rover registered to another marketer.
Pete Carroll began the exodus from USC with his odd move to quit his job as the darling of college football coaches for the NFL and the Seahawks. Problem is he left everyone else behind.
20 scholarships lost, a two year ban from bowl games. Will Matt Barkley play out his remaining two seasons at a school under sanctions? Who will stick around for a season without bowl hopes? Will top recruits stay on with a new coach in a multi-year rebuilding scenario?
May the exodus of talent from USC begin.
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Of course they are going to stay at USC. Many of these guys, such as Ron Johnson, Nick Perry, and others will just stay for 3 years and then leave for the NFL.
And, let’s not forget that we’ve already seen how little effect these sanctions had on 2010 Signing Day decisions. After all, didn’t Seantrel say that he was waiting to find out how bad the sanctions would be before signing (which was code for: “I’m not qualified yet”)? If this didn’t deter HIM from signing there, they aren’t losing other recruits.
Think about it – it might be even better without the bowl games. If they go undefeated, ESPN will take up their cause and declare them uncrowned national champions. Either way, USC remains front page news.
I don't think so
Losing 20 scholardships is a killer. Plus lets remember who USC has a coach right now. USC may be decent this year, but will fall fast in the next few years.
Losing 20 scholarships would be a killer. There’s no way they’re losing 20 scholarships this year. It’ll be five scholarships a year for 4 years, or some combination like that.
So, that’ll mean USC will only have 19-20 five stars on the roster, as opposed to the 22 they currently have. Darn.
Let me think about who USC has as a coach. Oh yeah, Monte Kiffin is the DC. Lane Kiffin led Tennessee to a 7-5 record last year. He turned Jonathan Crompton, JONATHAN CROMPTON, into a fifth-round draft pick. He went into Gainesville and only lost by 10. I think he’s a much better coach than you or Al Davis give him credit for.
Kiffin
O.k. Kiffen isn’t as bad as everyone thinks (especially with Pops as DC). But 7-5 at Tennessee is a long way from demonstrating chops to contend for a national title, especially with NCAA sanctions. Plus Kiffin has to be squeeky clean or risk putting USC in danger of even worse sanctions. Can he recruit under that type of microscope with those constraints?
actually it's
30 scholarships over 3 years. So ten a year. That is brutal.
No one is getting Rubio's rights unless they pry them from our cold dead fingers.
by TheEvilProfessor on Jun 13, 2010 6:14 PM CDT up reply actions
Don't think
will go undefeated, and in the unlikely event they do ESPN will not “take up their cause” that would make them look like they supporting cheating.
Knowing they will not be going to a bowl game those kids won’t have much to play for, especially since they won’t be getting the huge paycheck at the end of the day.
"they're calling insane hogs???"
ESPN has a satellite office in LA. They have taken up the cause of UConn sports for years even though Jim Calhoun is running a quite dirty program.
And, uh, ESPN not supporting cheating? How much money have they made off of Manny, Big Papi, McGwire, Sosa, Bonds, A-Roid, steroids in the NFL (Shawne Merriman, for one). How about those 30 for 30 programs glorifying Miami’s renegade program in the 1980s? You don’t think they’ll associate with rulebreakers? C’mon.
I would argue that if these guys know they’re not going to a bowl game, but they can still end up number one in the AP poll, they will put everything into their regular season games to finish 12-0 and create a controversy. USC only has 2-3 games on at regular viewing times for the nation this year, and they’ll want to make a statement in those games. One is Notre Dame, another is UCLA. Sadly, a third is Minnesota.
Kids still signed in 2010
because the staff told them the sanctions wouldn’t be that bad.
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by GopherNation on Jun 10, 2010 9:47 AM CDT up reply actions
interesting
So Reggie Bush (et all…), along with coaching and marketing dudes, make all these illegal actions, yet it’s the future students and future program that gets punished with 20 less scholarships. Interesting how the NCAA punishes the current and future students by not giving them an opportunity to take advantage of a bigtime education. Like I heard on the radio this morning, taking 20 scholarships from USC is like taking beds from a hospital. It just hurts the future patients (athletes).
If you want to make them hurt, take some money instead.
I don’t get it.
Yep
New coach, all new players, based on two players’ improprieties.
So, punishing 20 hypothetical future players is naturally the NCAA’s response. It’s shameful.
The coach who knew about Bush’s benefits (McNair) should be suspended for 3 years, Pete Carroll should be suspended from coaching the Seahawks for 8 games as well.
And Reggie Bush should be forced to re-pay every dime he got in improper benefits to a NCAA Scholarship Fund, and should be forced to pay whatever his scholarship cost USC into that fund as well.
I heard an interesting take
It is the presidents and ADs who should get punished. Guarantee that if their necks were on the line they would make sure the coaches and alumni would follow the rules. In current scenario USC can rack up Ws, a BCS title and all kinds of cash in exchange for a new coaching staff and some sanctions. I’d make that trade any day of the week.
Now if the USC President was going to be fined or suspended or fired, you better believe he wouldn’t turn his back on improprieties.
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by GopherNation on Jun 10, 2010 9:54 AM CDT up reply actions
I like it
also maybe they might start putting it into the coaches contract that they have to pay the fines and the money lost for going NOT going to a BCS bowl game.
"they're calling insane hogs???"
The two NCAA bylaws to pay attention to,
if everything goes down as we’re being led to believe: 13.1.1.3.3 (No release needed to contact student athletes if school is has postseason ban for the rest of their eligibility) basically means that if USC’s on a bowl ban for the next 2 years, juniors and seniors are fair game for pretty much everyone. 14.8.2: The Committee of Infractions can recommend a waiver to allow SAs to transfer and play immediately if ban is for the rest of their eligbility.
Also, NLIs may be considered void, and all incoming players would be free to go.
Everyone fails. The successful learn from their failures. I just wish we'd quit giving ourselves so many learning opportunities.
by WhiteSpeedReceiver on Jun 10, 2010 10:23 AM CDT reply actions
Music to Mustain's ears
He does not want to spend his senior year backing up Barkley anyway. Since he already used up his transfer year, he was stuck. But, with the sanctions, this is his get-out-of-jail-free card. He is one guy who is definitely gone.
I have a name for you...
Marquis Jackson
DE
4-stars
JUCO transfer, committed to USC
College of the Canyons was his JUCO
Had only a MN and AZ offer other than USC
A JUCO may not want to go to USC for two years with a post season ban. Seantrel is a pipe dream, this guy needs to get a phone call.
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by GopherNation on Jun 10, 2010 11:21 AM CDT up reply actions
more research
he may not graduate from College of the Canyons and his brother plays for USC. I’m not as excited as I was before.
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by GopherNation on Jun 10, 2010 11:34 AM CDT up reply actions
It may not be up to him
If USC has to pare down the number of players on scholly, this is exactly the kind of kid who will lose the scholarship.
Henderson
Does this mean he might be a gopher after all. He never signed with USC because of this he just committed. Plus a lot of other USC recruits had Minnesota on there list too. This could be a very good thing for the Gophs.
SH
He made a bad decision the first time, he will make a bad decision again and not come here, the best place for him.
by bobbyspringfield on Jun 11, 2010 6:51 PM CDT reply actions
For someone like him
he will go to Ohio State, he has already said that was his second choice anyway.
"they're calling insane hogs???"
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