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The Tim Brewster hot seat, fair or not?

There has been a lot of talk this offseason about the hottness of Tim Brewster's coaching seat.  But how hot is it really?  And maybe the greater question is how fair is this ever-warming seat?

There is no denying that Brewster's name is popping up on hot seat lists all over the internet. 

Lost Lettermen have him ranked as the 8th hottest seat in the country.

Michigan isn’t the only "UM" in the Big Ten longing for the days of stable mediocrity. The Golden Gophers are wondering whether firing Glen Mason after the 2006 season was the right move. Brewster can claim two bowls to his credit but Minnesota finished last season with a losing record after an L in the Insight Bowl. Good luck getting off on the right foot against a Middle Tennessee State team that won 10 games last season and a nonconference game vs. mighty USC. The offense was woeful last season after ditching the spread and the defense returns just two starters, leading many pundits to project Minnesota’s finish as dead last in the conference.

The Mason comparisons are more and more unfair with every passing year.  Comparing their accomplishments is fair game but the debate as to whether or not we should have kept Mason has nothing to do with Brewster.  Mason's time was up.  Brewster was the next man to get an opportunity, but Mason was gone regardless of who or how successful the next coach was.

CBS Sports.com has Brewster tied for 8th in their hot seat rankings, tied with Indiana's Bill Lynch.  He has a 4.0 ranking (out of 5.0).  There are three other Big Ten coaches ahead of or tied with him in what may turn out to be the Mike Leach derby.

ESPN's Bruce Feldman puts Brewster at 9th in his list of coaches on the edge.

He came to Minnesota with a rep as a strong recruiter, and to his credit he's landed some very good players from the high school and JC ranks. After a dismal 1-11 season, he's .500 the past two years and 14-24 overall. Not bad, but now what? The facilities have really been upgraded, and with that, so have the expectations. A backward step could be treacherous.

There is a lot of truth to what Feldman is saying.  Brewster has been given the keys to a program with amazing facilities and Brew's recruiting has raised the talent level for the program.  But the results have not yet materialized.  a .500 record after this embarassing 1-11 season is not what we have all hoped for.  He has time to get things going in the right direction but Feldman is right, a step backwards would not be a good thing for Brewster.

And this leads me to yesterday's post over at Fringe Bowl Team.  On a side note, FBT is a very good new Gopher football blog.  He has some very good recruiting evaluations and posts that are well thought out and well-written.

But I'm not sure I completely agree with his post yesterday that Brewster should be given more time or that Gopher fans should have more patience just because the last several coaches were equally as mediocre and they were given plenty of time.  I want to be very careful here not to take FBT out of context but here is what I believe is the crux of his post (you really should go read his post).

This begs a corollary question: why the talk of Coach Brewster on the hot seat in year 4? If you go back 42 years, every Gopher head coach has gotten the benefit of the doubt for at least 5 seasons, including Salem and Wacker. In fact, if you look at Gopher history, the coaches at the "fringe" bowl level coached here at least 6 years (Gutekunst had 6 years, Stoll had 7 and Mason survived 10 years – longest since Murray Warmath). Minnesota has very little historical precedence to fire a head coach after just 4 years, provided the squad is performing near the traditional program "mean." Given that Brewster is at that level now, where is the justification behind the calls for his head? Moreover, if the program and all the stakeholders are raising expectations, do those expectations come with increased involvement and commitment to assisting the program itself rather than finding a scapegoat?

The point here is show where the Gophers have been and to ask ourselves, as fans and stakeholders in the program, why is the current coach somehow different from the previous lead men over the past 42 years that he doesn’t deserve his 5-6 year shot to get the Gophers over the hump? Where the program is today, in 2010, roughly where it has been since the wake of the Glory Years: it’s too early to write off Brewster’s plan to move the program beyond just yet.

On the surface I completely agree. I am a patient person when it comes to my favorite teams.  I firmly believe that you need to give coaches time to bring in their players and get their systems established.  But I also believe that after four seasons there are areas that you can adequately evaluate.  After four years it is possible to make the determination that the current staff is not meeting expectations, whatever those expectations may be.

Back to FBT's post.  He spends a lot of time going back over the last 5 Gopher head coaches to show that they achieved and stalled at levels of mediocrity similar to Brewster.  And they were all given five or six years to get the program over the hump.  Looking at just records and bowl games (or assuming bowl seasons if older coaches would have been coaching in today's climate where 6 wins means a bowl game) what FBT is saying is 100% accurate and fair.  But he is missing some key components and these components are the heavy ammunition that anti-Brewster fans are firing. 

This is where I get negative.  In just three seasons Brewster has not beat one rival. In three seasons Brewster has not beat one team that he wasn't supposed to beat.  In three seasons Brewster's teams have not improved as the season went along.  I'll start with the rivalry games.  Every single coach since Murray Warmath has defeated one of the Gopher rivals in their first 3 seasons (NOTE: I skipped over Lou HOltz since he was here just 2 years and nobody argues the success he had here, but he was 3-1 vs. Iowa/Wisconsin in his 2 seasons).  In fact all of them except Mason did so in their first year.

BEAT A RIVAL
coach year coach yr who upset?
Stoll 1972 1 Wis no
Stoll 1972 1 Iowa no
Stoll 1973 2 Wis no
Stoll 1973 2 Iowa no
Stoll  1974 3 Iowa no
Salem 1979 1 Iowa yes
Salem 1980 2 Iowa no
Salem 1981 3 Iowa YES
Gutekunst 1986 1 Wis no
Gutekunst 1986 1 Mich (11-2) YES
Gutekunst 1987 2 Wis no
Wacker 1992 1 Iowa yes
Wacker 1993 2 Wis (10-1-1) YES
Wacker 1994 3 Wis yes
Mason 1998 2 Iowa no
Mason 1999 3 Iowa no

 

Even the worst Gopher coaches we have had to endure were able to get wins over Iowa or Wisconsin (or even Michigan) in their first 3 seasons.   I excluded the Michigan games for the simple fact that those games haven't been competitive since before any of these coaches and only Gutekunst beat Michigan in his first three seasons.  But below are rivalry (sans Michigan games) win% compared to ovearll win% for the last 6 Gopher coaches (again, sans Lou Holtz).

Overall Win% (first 3 seasons)
Wis / Iowa Win% (first 3 seasons)
Stoll 0.500 0.833
Salem 0.355 0.500
Gutekunst 0.441 0.333
Wacker 0.291 0.500
Mason 0.529 0.333
Brewster 0.368 0.000

 

So I realize that beating Iowa and Wisconsin is not what should determine anyone's coaching future, but it is at least something to hang your hat on.  Brewster's overall record puts him right on par with all of the other stellar Golden Gopher coaches but not beating a rival in six tries is clearly a check mark against him.  I realize that both Iowa and Wisconsin have been pretty good in recent years but they haven't been unbeatable.  In 2007, Iowa was 6-6.  In 2008 Wisconsin had an identical record to ours and Michigan was BAD.  And I'll also throw in that we haven't even scored against Iowa in two years. 

But let's forget rivals for now and talk about notching a signature win or two.  In three years and 36 total games Brewster has defeated exactly 3 teams that finished with a winning record (2 of which were non-BCS conference teams).  If you are looking for the signature win of the Tim Brewster era it is probably a road win over Northwestern in 2009.  The Wildcats went on to finish 8-5 that year.  This is the only Big Ten team Brewster has defeated who finished with a winning record. 

Every coach prior to Brewster has done something significant in their first three years to warrant more time for their program.  It isn't just about being given time to turn a program around.  It is about showing signs that you are capable of turning a program around.  A program like this one doesn't usually turn around in three years, but to be given more time one usually has to show some reasonable sign that you are capable being the person who will eventually do it.

Significant milestones in first three years
coach milestone coaching year
Stoll 6-2 in Big Ten, 4-0 vs. Rivals in 1st 2 years 2
Salem beat Big Ten champs OSU AND Iowa 3
Gutekunst 3rd in Big Ten, bowl game in fist year, beat Michigan (11-2) 1
Gutekunst 4th and 5th years went 4-0 vs. Iowa and Wis 4/5
Wacker beat 11-1-1 Badgers during a 4-7 season 2
Mason 8-4 beating Penn State 2

 

Brewster's Northwestern and arguably his Michigan State home win last year are his significant accomplishments.  Again, overall record is roughly the same but all prior coaches gave us some reason for on the field optimism.  Brewster has not delivered.

To be clear I am NOT calling for Brewster's head.  There are a number of things that I have appreciated about what he has done with the program and I do believe he should be given time. He has recruited well and in my mind there is no doubt he has raised the overall level of talent in the program.  Those who critique his recruiting because he hasn't landed another top 25 class are grasping.  Realistically we are not going to land top classes year in and year out, especially when we are not winning.  The classes we have brought in are not perfect but they are talented enough to at least give us a fighting chance. This year is really the first year

Academically this program has also improved.  Grad rates are dramatically improving and APR scores are creeping up after bottoming out recently.  In the Mason era we annually finished 10th or 11th in the Big Ten grad rates.  Regardless of who you want to credit the recent classes grad rates to, the fact is while Brewster has been coaching Gophers have been graduating.  This is a good thing.

And he has raised expectations, which I believe is a good thing for the program (although may not be a good thing for him).  As I said above, I am a patient person I.  But I do believe it is conceivable and even a rational thought that there may be validity to ending the Tim Brewster era after year four.  But that cannot be determined, by anyone, until after the season.  There absolutely needs to be some sign of measurable improvement and some glimmer of hope that things will be better sooner rather than later. 

The 2010 Gophers need to have an offensive and defensive identity.  They need to be competitive in all of their games.  And they need to show signs of improvement both from the 2009 season and as the season progresses.  Wins and losses may not be very pretty this year and that can be somewhat excused by the schedule.  But if we do not see signs of progress I would not blame Gopher Nation for turning up the heat and I would not blame the administration if they chose to go in a different direction.

In the end, we are all on the same team and want the same things.  All we want is to see this program succeed and make us proud.  I urge all of you to get behind this team now.  Too many people love to be the first on the "fire coach" bandwagon so when the coach is eventually ushered out they can be the ones to say I told you so.  That serves no one.  Brewster isn't perfect and he may make some mistakes this year.  But get behind this program now, root for them to win.  There are ample opportunities for this team to notch a huge win in their belt in 2010.  There is a talented, albeit young, defense that will be fun to watch grow.  And there is an experienced offense that is poised to show us 2009 was not the norm. 

Get behind this team, don't dwell on the success or failures of previous coaches or the current one.  The 2010-11 offseason will take care of itself.  We should all be desiring for this team and staff to be successful.  In the end I think FBT was as much calling Gopher Nation to action as he was telling people to back off. 

Moreover, if the program and all the stakeholders are raising expectations, do those expectations come with increased involvement and commitment to assisting the program itself rather than finding a scapegoat?

In this I agree 100%.  Spending your time ripping the staff is pointless and only self-serving.  If you want to make things better get on board and do what little you can to contribute.  Get yourself and get others involved.  Take a trip to support the team, contribute to the athletic department or do what you can to promote the virtues of Golden Gopher football.  Don't bury your head in the sand but don't stick a fork in this team or staff before they are dead.

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Ripping the staff is not pointless

What do you think gets coaches fired? Just poor performance on the field alone? If the stadium is 100% sold out in spite of losing seasons, I guarantee that the AD is less likely to seek out a replacement. It is fan discontent that expedites change. If a coaching change is warranted, then we must raise our voice and be heard, not just keep shelling out dollars and keeping our mouth shut.

by Garrick on Jul 14, 2010 1:29 PM CDT reply actions  

maybe pointless was the wrong word

My point is that there is a wave of people out there calling for his head now. These people will be around to say “I told you so” throughout the season and will be loudest when/if it happens. That is pointless. 4 years is the minimum a coach should be given to prove whether or not he can succeed at an institution.

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by GopherNation on Jul 14, 2010 2:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

Illinois

The Illinois victory a couple seasons ago should be considered at least on par with Michigan State last season. I know they finished awful but at the time Illinois was considered an up-and-coming team. They had just won at Michigan (again I know that victory looks worse in retrospect) and had just been ranked top 25 the week before. And it was on the road. It led the Gophers to a 6-1 start and probably over-inflated expectations.

I know it isn’t a trophy game but it was the game that gave me hope (which admittedly has slid) Brewster could coach a winner here. If he can win even one of the major home games (USC, Iowa, Penn State, Ohio State) and win the other 3 non-conference games (and maybe one Big 10 game on the road for 5-7) he should undoubtedly be given 2011. 4-8 – at that point I agree maybe a change should be looked at, especially if no trophy/significant game wins.

by mraveling on Jul 14, 2010 1:30 PM CDT reply actions  

Illinois?

it was a win over a ranked team but in hindsight it was not that impressive of a win. The NU win last year was bigger when you consider that they went 8-5. They went on to beat Iowa and Wisconsin.

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by GopherNation on Jul 14, 2010 2:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

We should have beaten you last year... tough loss for us

At this early point I don’t think you will beat us this year with Eric Decker gone to the NFL. It’d be great if you can beat Iowa this year if only to see the shitshow over at BHGP.

by LincolnParkWildcat on Jul 14, 2010 6:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

Well done GN

I think you’ve encapsulated all of the pro – and con – points as to Brewster’s ongoing tenure here. He’s done good things here – that is not debatable. There are also some significant gaps in his tenure (you’ve left out musical coordinators as an issue, I think).

I think his seat is appropriately lukewarm, as ultimately, everything has to come down to W-L record. If the bottom falls out this year, if injuries mount and the team stumbles to a 2-10 record, what in the world is the next step?

I think we know the answer to that – Maturi provided it by reducing Brewster’s buyout. No APR would save him in that instance. He’s tried his best, but his future is going to be determined by two numbers in the next couple of years. Any bad season will doom him. A surprisingly good season, or upset wins, will get him more tenure.

by JG2112 on Jul 15, 2010 11:29 AM CDT reply actions  

I'm not even sure it is about record

Let’s say he goes 4-7 but beats Wisconsin, and is “close” in Iowa and Penn State games. I think he stays in that scenario.

But if he goes 4-7 getting dominated by the big four teams coming to town and sneaks out 4 wins somehow I think he is gone.

It is all about seeing progress and some sort of hope that he’s capable of turning it around.

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by GopherNation on Jul 15, 2010 1:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

Well...

As a Minnesotan who went to Iowa for school, I’m always torn about the Goofers Gophers.

Personally, I think there are a couple reasons Brewster’s seat is hotter than it probably would have been in the past.

1) The man definitely talked a big talk when he joined. Didn’t he promise a Rose Bowl within like 2 years, and a NCG within 3 or something? I mean, all coaches promise big things, but still.

2) While the 1-11 season is slightly excusable as teams do have dips when new coaches/staff/systems arrive and because several of those were close losses, the 7-6 season that followed was less forgivable. I mean, the Gophers had a 7-1 record going into their final 4 games (including the 3 trophy games)!

3) Speaking of trophy games, the Gophers have yet to bring one back to Minneapolis under Brewster.

4) He’s failed to win a bowl game with the Gophers, even against the likes of Iowa State.

5) He’s a great recruiter. Like Zook, he’s been able to land some good recruits. Unlike Zook, however, he hasn’t taken the team to a Rose Bowl… He has, I feel, failed to really make the most of the guys he brings in. And it’s actually starting to hurt his recruiting attempts now.

6) Glen Mason may not have been amazing, but he put up better seasons. Replacing him certainly increases expectations.

7) The Big 10 has been hot as of late. Sure we’ve blown the BCS games, but the upper tier of the Big 10 is gearing up for a run for top national rankings and possibly the NCG. OSU, Iowa and Wisconsin are all predicted to be strong. PSU will be rebuilding but considering the seasons they’ve put up recently, they’re dangerous. Plus it’s hard to envision Michigan staying down for too long. Among the middle of the pack, teams like Northwestern and Michigan State have proven to be dangerous. Minnesota NEEDS to improve, or it’ll end up at the bottom like Indiana and Illinois. Also Nebraska will be joining us soon, so there is increased pressure.

There’s no reason Minnesota CAN’T be competitive in the Big 10. It’s a large school with sufficient means to field a better team than has been seen as of late. At the same time, I think Brewster does deserve the standard 5 year tenure. If for no other reason than perhaps it’ll allow Iowa to rack a couple more shutout wins against the Gophers… :P

by edr247 on Jul 15, 2010 1:54 PM CDT reply actions  

Other than the last paragraph

I swear I didn’t write this comment for edr.

by JG2112 on Jul 15, 2010 2:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

1 – to clarify, he didn’t promise anything like that. He said Rose Bowl is the goal. He wanted to go to the RB that year, then he went 1-11 and he became a punchline. But RB should be the goal every year for every B10 team.

6 – Glen Mason is being remembered for being a much better coach than he actually was. Expectations should be raised, agreed.

I’m not willing to say he has to get 5 years. He should get 4 and then it all depends on the product we see on the field. He has yet to show that he is capable of coaching at this level. He can certainly recruit and I think he runs his program well but nothing has shown he can coach yet.

and thank you for posting a reasonable response despite being a fan of a rival.

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by GopherNation on Jul 15, 2010 3:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

Great Recruiter?

If he is a such a great recruiter then he must be an absolute horrible coach, right? If he is getting credit for bringing in excellent players then he also must be responsible for them totally underperforming. Either he isn’t recruiting as good of players as he is credited with or he is terrible at coaching them.

I’m waiting for 1 player he recruited to improve. I can’t name 1.

Bottom line is he has a distinct advantage over previous coaches: a brand new stadium. Not one of the other coaches listed had this advantage. You can’t tell me showing recruits that locker room doesn’t help.

I say give him the year, but he is rightfully on the hot seat.

by The Sugar on Jul 15, 2010 3:41 PM CDT reply actions  

Great is extremely strong but...

he is bringing in higher caliber players then this program has seen. He’s not bringing in 5 star guys but he has brought in more 4-stars in 3 years than this program had seen in the prior 10 combined.

The point that he hasn’t coached them up is completely valid and I didn’t intend to gloss over that. But again most of them are sophomores and should be given time to show how good they are or not.

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by GopherNation on Jul 15, 2010 4:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

Every coach should be evaluated

based on outcomes, not activities.

Coach Brewster is no exception. Coach has now been on board long enough to where it is his recruits that will graduate this year. So, there is no hang-over from the Monson era and no excuses for not having a successful program.

Breaking down cognitive dissonance and group think since gasoline was cheap.

by Flagrant on Jul 16, 2010 5:19 AM CDT reply actions  

Monson?

Monson, Mason, what’s the difference?

Personally, I would like to see a competitive team this year more than anything. The schedule is brutal, we all know that, but more than anything I got really tired of getting shut out and watching a totally inept offense. We need to be able to run the ball and give the QB some time to find a receiver. Nobody wants to watch a team that can’t score or even move the ball against a good defense. Brewster’s job will depend on the performance of the O-Line more than anything this year. Our defense more than likely will not be as good, so our O-Line and RB’s need to pick up the slack.

This team was beyond frustrating to watch after the MSU game. Horton has his work cut out for him trying to save Brewster’s job. Let’s hope he was the right hire and not another dead fisch.

by Narby on Jul 16, 2010 10:23 AM CDT reply actions  

Recruiting class rankings are deceptive

How many of those recruits actually suited up? How many carries do you figure Hassan Lipscomb will have this year? Is Sam Maresh ready to start at linebacker?Will Hayo Carpenter compete for POY in the Big__ ?As far as being on the hotseat,who was it that hired a coach without 1 down of D1 head coaching experience? There’s the guy who should get the boot.You can’t blame Brewster for taking the job,but why was it even offered?

by mahogma66 on Jul 16, 2010 4:10 PM CDT reply actions  

Maresh has left the team to get his head on straight.

"they're calling insane hogs???"

by CrowTrobot on Jul 16, 2010 4:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

That was my point

Too many duds. Maybe that’s typical of every school’s recruiting classes and I never noticed because the Gophers were typically rounding out the bottom of the Big 10’s rankings,and I had no expectations.

by mahogma66 on Jul 16, 2010 5:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

don't pick and choose a recruit here and there

A lot of them have actually suited up.

Recruiting rankings can be deceptive but on the whole they are a relatively decent predictor of talent. Not necessarily a predictor of success or a predictor of eligibility. Can you deny that Gray is incredibly talented? Look at the vast majority of the 2010 starting defense. All are young and is a more athletically gifted defense than we have seen in a long time.

Defensive success this year will largely rest on the shoulders of Jewhan, Carter, Kirksey, Wilhite, Cooper, Reeves and Theret. Those guys are all very talented.

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by GopherNation on Jul 16, 2010 4:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

"Can you deny that Gray is incredibly talented?"

I wouldn’t know. He may have potential, but he hasn’t played enough to evaluate,and when he does come into a game,almost everyone in the stadium can call the play. I wasn’t cherry-picking. Those were just off the top of my head. I recall several months back looking at who was recruited vs. who actually made it on campus,and it was not impressive If recruiting has improved so much,the product on the field certainly hasn’t reflected it. Last year’s product,on offense in particular,was abysmal.The previous regime took 2 star talent,and improved it. I can’t say that for Brewster.

by mahogma66 on Jul 16, 2010 4:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

this is kind of my point

do not write him off as a coach who should be shown the door before his 4th season is even underway. He shouldn’t be given a free pass to 6 years but he should be given time to let his players play.

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by GopherNation on Jul 16, 2010 4:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

Wow..ok

Well based on the 2 year in depth research of recruiting rankings VS success on this message board Brewster is just an outlier….or could it be that the recruiting rankings give a guy like Barber, Decker and small football state and small school guys less stars because they play in unknown areas…its all bs…the only Certain fact from the top 100 recruits from every year is that it has averaged out for over 20 years that 25% of the top 100 will never play a snap of college football for various reasons.

by DallasGopher on Jul 17, 2010 2:20 AM CDT reply actions  

Thanks

I knew something like this existed somewhwere,I just could never find it.

by mahogma66 on Jul 17, 2010 2:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

see what I’m hearing is that recruiting rankings are bad because Barber/Decker were poorly ranked and Gray wasn’t as starter during his freshman season. The fact is that Brewsters recruits are just now juniors and sophomores breaking into the depth chart. Seeing these guys up close or comparing them to prior team starters, it is obvious they are more talented/athletic. The jury is certainly out as to whether or not Brewster can mold these guys into Big Ten players but they are talented enough and nobody can convince me otherwise that he hasn’t dramatically increased the overall talent on this roster. Rivals rankings be damned, look at the players, the talent level is vastly improved.

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by GopherNation on Jul 17, 2010 9:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

I love this place!!!

I just happened to hear of this place and though that I would join. As a life long gopher fan and alum, I think it is unfair to have coach Brew on the hot seat. I know as fans we want instant winners on the field. But I am all for giving coach Brew more time. How much time? It really depends on what happens this year.

If we take a huge step backwards, something like 2-10, then I am for letting coach go. But if we get 6 or 7 wins again, I say let him stay. Because that to me shows that we getting the program on a consistent level. Hopefully the next year we can get 7 or 8 wins and then build on those numbers.

I have never been a fan of getting a coach and then after three years, letting that coach go all because we did not reach “X” number of wins. Now if we were Michigan or Ohio St or some other school with a history of great success, I would be upset that we are only getting 6 wins. But since this is our norm, I am cool with what we are getting.

We are not getting (yet) 5 star recruits. We are not getting guys that run 40s in 4.2 seconds. We are getting guys that are decent. Guys that can play well but not at a high level. You gotta be proud of what you have. Heck I am cool with getting 6 wins a season. There are some schools who don’t even get 3 wins a season. They still keep their coaches around. So I think that it is unfair to have coach on the hot seat. We are moving at a decent pace.

by JellyBean2144 on Jul 17, 2010 9:17 PM CDT reply actions  

Brewster is on the hot seat

because he has raised the level of expectation, I believe. He was the first coach in my lifetime that said without equivocation that ‘Minnesota is going to the Rose Bowl’. And he was mocked. By Pat Reusse, Jim Souhan, everybody. But then he pulled in a top 20 recruiting class, which Mason never did, at least to my recollection.

Glen Mason looked at the job as a Big Ten ‘foot in the door’ job, and openly pined for the OSU gig when Cooper got fired…and said, essentially, Minnesota is a second tier program and Gopher fans should be happy for 7 win seasons and mid tier bowls. To Mason’s credit, he made the program respectable, but he never tried to go to the next level and compete for championships and BCS bowls.

To Brewster’s credit, that has been his stated goal from day one, and the Gophers aren’t any closer to that goal than when Mason was here.

So Brewster is being held to a higher standard, because he set higher standards and has yet to achieve them. And that’s why he’s on the hot seat, if you ask me.

"Whoever said that the pen is mightier than the sword never encountered automatic weapons."

by Ted Glover on Jul 24, 2010 8:31 PM CDT reply actions  

Ted Glover

I agree to some point…just imagine if UCLA would have fired Wooden after 5 or even 8 years……look it up….

by DallasGopher on Jul 25, 2010 3:19 AM CDT up reply actions  

imagine if Minnesota had hired Wooden!

apparently we offered him the job hours after UCLA did. He was waiting for our call but the call didn’t go through until after he accepted the UCLA job. Supposedly he wanted this one.

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by GopherNation on Jul 30, 2010 9:37 AM CDT up reply actions  

Warm Seat But...

If you notice, anytime you posture yourself in a seat, it tends to warm up. Nothing out of the ordinary is occurring here. Fortunately, Coach Brewster finally has a staff with great chemistry and it is in a nick of time. He will field the youngest team since he has been the head coach and the majority of the youth will play defense. However, be concerned but do not worry. The coaching along with the better speed and athleticism secured by solid recruiting of late will bridge the gap. The breakout year for this team will likely be 2011 but ’10 is the beginning of a three year cycle during which the team has a chance to make a strong move up the Big Ten standings and play in January Bowls. The MAGs writers are down on The U only because of roster shifting. We however know that we have good players stepping into the spots vacated. Look for continued progress in the PROGRAM from top to bottom and leave the seat warm for 2011.

by muststart28 on Jul 25, 2010 11:01 AM CDT reply actions  

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