Minnesota Golden Gophers at Middle Tennessee State Blue Raiders - OPEN THREAD
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Welcome to the first open thread of the 2010 season. As most of you know this is the forum to vent, gloat, rant, rave and celebrate Gopher football. We start on the road vs. the Sun Belt favorites minus their offensive weapon, Dwight Dasher.
Let's get it on.
You don't have to wait for the game to start, give us your predictions for the game and share you anticipation with the rest of us.
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I would LOVE to see the Gophs hang 34 on the Blue Raiders
Did we score 34 points total last year? Ok we did, but it sure didn’t seem like it. I am so ready for a new season and a new and improved offense.
I am in
Took Gophers at pick-em for $50. Conservative bet for me but hard to argue that this is a bad bet.
27-24 Minnesota
I expect a few mistakes from the younger players, but they’ll pull it out.
Buck Bravo
Jeff Wills is why
I’m really excited to see how he does against speed rushers tonight
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season 127 of Gopher football
is about to kick off
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what does rattle and disquise mean?
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Did I hear right? Did the MTSU coach say he hopes the Gophers are used to cold weather, and the heat will screw them up?
Does he really think it’s COLD in Minnesota in August and September?
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dang it, a 3rd down missed conversion
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play action on 1st down please
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shoot
DB missed his hole on that one
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1st and goal on the 1
they’ll give Hoese a TD here
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and he didn't see teh safety waiting for Stoudermire
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First drive
just as we all figured, run then run then run then run
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Rallis TFL
2 tackles on 2 plays
great play by wilhite as well
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Did he just say that it could've been a touchdown with Dasher, after just buttering up Kilgore?
Buck Bravo
lower your announcer expectations tonight
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or put it on mute and make up your own play by play.
Just don’t be tempted to put on Dave Lee. No ESPN U announcer is that bad!
No protection
He’ll get it together I have faith
not sure I can blame the first two passes on protection
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it happens
3 or 4 or 5 yards at a time is better than 8-12
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I didn't believe the hype
But Rallis is everywhere it seems
Weber is moving too quick
he needs to SLOW DOWN
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penalties and 3rd and long
this also looks like last year
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or dont' give up on the run game
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defense is pursuing very well
this unit is pretty fast
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that was a nice throw
too bad the other 4 were bad
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94 yards rushing yards!
that is what I like to see
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Watching on the net
my cable package doesn’t carry ESPNU. :-(
but I m surfing between the Vikes & Twins anyhow.
Your fantasy football expert since Jerry Rice's rookie year.
Marcus Sherels just got a sack in Vikings game
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bad call, that was a nice break by the corner
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Hoese is a great story in the making
hope his Dad can read about it someday.
Thus far...
…but if he plays this whole season like he did in the Rose Bowl then he’ll be a legit stud.
Smart... look at the Alabama's and the Florida's...
UF hasn’t played an OOC game outside the state of Florida in 15 years.
In other words...
Playing big out of conference games does absolutely nothing for you when it comes to BCS implications… Beat no ones, win your conference games go to big bowl games… OSU is a prime example of this.
Yea. At least Big 10 teams are willing to travel.
The avg distance to NC away games for SEC schools is like 200 miles or less.
Bama is playing Penn St
OSU has played Tex and USC in very recent years
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Bama is going to destroy Penn St
The point I’m making is that there is no reason to play those big out of conference games.
but Miami and South Florida are formidable foes..Osu is playing 1 good team..Miami..then Ohio, Marshal and Eastern Michigan..yeah way to challenge your team jimbo.
play the lilliputians
There's no reason to play anyone else, though...
Why should they fill their non conference schedule with tough games?
the game's don't necessarily have to be tough
Like look at the Gophers…Middle is a formidable foe, USC, New Mexico State…
The Gophers have enough to worry about in their conference schedule
No need to schedule the USC’s…
What I’m saying is that bigger schools, like UF, don’t schedule tough out of conference games and they’re always in big bowl games because non conference games don’t matter, just win and it gets you far. There is absolutely no advantage to playing a huge non conference game if you’re an established program.
KIRKWOOD
running game is dominant tonight
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he isn't overly fast
but he runs hard and has a nice initial burst
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GREAT PROTECTION
and great route by McKnight
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that is 2 missed tackles by Manual
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They can still bare down
and hold them to a field goal
I'm here
Finally caught up on the DVR. First half highlight: I absolutely CRUSHED 24 buffalo wings from Famous Dave’s.
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Weber can't handle it
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FAAAAAAAAAAAAACK
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we were on our heels on that drive
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by the way, what's worse, Weber's accuracy, or these announcers?
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you just did
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Bennett doesn't want to go down either.
I am happy with what I’m seeing from the running game at least (even if it is against MTSU).
Weber has already thrown at least one bad pass to him
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what was that?
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Apparently Brewster Told a Tennessee Radio Station today that
Marqueis Gray was a top 10 NFL Draft Pick.
Bennett did a good job picking up the blitz, but Weber blew it
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if he wants to play on Sunday's
it will be as a WR
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good thing we didn't bother trying to get past the first down marker
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you don't run 23 yard pass routes
3rd and less than 10 you do, but not when you are 22 yards away. You get yards to get in FG range and hopefully break a tackle for a 1st down
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nice pass
just not enough yards
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What's the point of the Weber bashing?
He’s going to start the whole season so there’s no point plus I’m not confident in Gray’s passing ability
plust he's been OK
you can’t bash him on every mistake because every QB (especially at this level) is going to make mistakes
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are there any kickers available in free agency?
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How come we have ZERO pass rush?
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wow Buck, you're psychic
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On a side note, I get to head back to Tallahassee this weekend to see FSU open up the Fisher era.
I’m hoping our secondary looks better after being atrocious last year.
i can't believe what just happened.
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no doubt, i'm just saying, we were up 2 touchdowns and then all hell broke loose
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Collado and Lewis were bad on taht play
Collado needs to drop further adn Lewis needs to make a playon the ball
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How about a big Stoudermire return
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D was great in 1st qtr
but ugly in 2nd
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It's early
everybody knew this was a potent offense. We aren’t losing.
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I don't have any problems with Tebow.
He’s one of those polarizing guys though. I know A LOT of people that can’t stand him.
Yea
I don’t love him but I don’t hate him.
I'm a Florida State graduate
and before anyone asks… A ton of my family went to Minnesota, including two of my older cousins that are basically my older brothers so Minnesota became my second team behind the Noles.
Understood
So they handed the Noles four loses in his tenure?
Yep... Hoping this year is the change.
Jimbo has made changes that have resulted in a ton of excitement in the program. Heading to Tallahassee tomorrow for the opener.
Florida State is definitely going to be back
Florida has too much instate talent that can definitely be spread between two universities
One more year of Bowden would have set us back a couple more years
He wanted Amato at DC, which would have been a complete joke…
You should read some of the stuff that has come out since our new coaches got here. Running backs were never taught what the offensive line was doing, one quote from a DT, “Yeah it’s crazy, you know, we can’t just go hang out in the weight room anymore, we actually have to do stuff.”
No complaints here. Glad that you're on here.
I can definitely see how you hate the guy being an FSU grad. A good friend of mine is from Georgia and is a huge Bulldog fan… he HATES Tebow.
I took some time away from the thread, and I have made an important decision...
I am switching to bourbon.
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I'm confident Brewster is taking care of business at the half, and you won't need to switch to tequila
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2nd half needs: pass rush
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how'd that work out for ya?
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This defensive line play reminds me a lot of FSU's play last year
rush up the field past the play is not good defensive line technique.
Like I said...
Rushing past the play and allowing the QB to step up is not good defensive line technique.
ugh
2 penalties already this half.
and somebody teach Tinsley to tackle
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we NEED a safety back
lewis is terrible so far
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maybe a bit overstated
this is a big drive but not necessarily the game decider
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Iowa State is thumping Northern Illinois 17-0
Not sure what that means for us, but I think it’s good?
yay
our first 3rd down conversion
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I at least like the play-action
before they know it was coming
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Terrible, terrible, terrible...
Run drags, and dink the ball down the field if youre going to let Weber pass.
Or run every down.
IMO we should be running in down their throats again
our much bigger line will just wear them out in the 2nd half
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agree, but that was a bad throw
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big difference (Imo)
between a bad throw and a throw that wasn’t perfect. It was on his hip, not 2 feet behind him. Granted it wasn’t in the numbers but it was clearly catchable
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not that this is about you (a lot of people feel the way you do)
but watch every QB in the country, they throw balls like that too.
He throws bad balls, he throws good balls and he throws catchable balls that are not perfect.
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I'm fine if it's about me
How many of those “every QB in the country” are 4 year starters? As a 4th year starter my opinion is that Weber should be far more accurate than he is.
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ALL QBs
that ball was 100% catchable
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agree to disagree
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Big Jeff is going to get dominated by USC defensive ends in a couple weeks.
They’re going to run circles around him.
I've heard a couple times
that he IS happy.
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what a great run
that was some tough yards when hit at line of scrimmage
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yes
inside spin move blew right by him.
he may be good but he’s getting whooped tonight in pass protection
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That was the left side of the line who got beat and the player was white
Neither of those seem like Wills
Weber still sucks
no pocket composure what so ever
I'm dicouraged
offense passing game is the same, rushing game is better
defense is bad
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Kilgore is scrawney
looks like a high school junior
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pursuit was really good in the 1st half
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agreed
Lewis is bad. He runs in to hit with this hands. He needs to go get receivers and hit them with his shoulders. Maybe he belongs at CB
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do you really want them to audible?
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thank you all
for executing on that play
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I know what you are saying
but Weber hasn’t been very good and we were inside our own 10 on 2nd and 5.
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how about a nice crossing route
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NICE THROW!!!
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another nice throw and catch and run
where did this 3rd down conversion stuff come from?
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quick passing plays
that are executed. THANK YOU
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weber isn't perfect
but he can play and he is our best option.
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GRAY!
And another decent throw
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100% agree
he has been a serious bright spot
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He's running much more violently than in the past... I LOVE it
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remember where this drive started?
have to get a TD, but this has been a tremendous drive
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Weber has DOUBLED his passing production on this drive
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excellent Wedding Crashers reference
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the play call was OK
I like the idea of trying to use Gray’s height and ability
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But with Weber's inconsistent arm?
I’d rather fake a play that has owned their defense all game and find an open receiver.
really nothing wrong with the pass
it landed in corner of endzone. (I just went back to look)
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maybe
maybe pass was early but you dont’ want him hanging on to that one.
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Brude Feldman is tweeting
that Seantrel Henderson has got into the game in the 3rd quarter.
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I thought Edwards just ate that guy
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I heard he has a drinking problem
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I was just wondering that myself
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I wondered it 2nd
you were clearly 3rd
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everyone give the D a pat on the helmet
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let's go 90 yards again
or even just 77
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oh please
what the hell is this?
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Oh good, we can comment about it on Facebook.
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Wills and Lair really opened that hole
nice blocking
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if Wills drives his man to the sideline
that would have been a huge play
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very nice job by weber
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it was at his waste though, not the numbers
:)
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watch any QB in the country and you'll see the same thing
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nice
avoided rush, found mcKnight
very nice
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if the announcer calls him "Kirkwood" one more time I am going to throw my laptop at the TV
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I meant to say "Kirkland" he's been calling him Kirdland
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spelling fail
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give Wills 3 yards on that rush
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HE CALLED HIM KIRKLAND AGAIN
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did you know he talked to him at the hotel last night?
Kirkland was nervous
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in the elevator, he was shaking.
Also, did you know that Greg Paulus played basketball at Duke?
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and Glen Mason recruited some of our upper classmen?
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it's a good thing I watch these games by myself.
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you need 2 yards
he’ll get you 4
You need 5 yards
he’ll get you 4
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I'm glad we scored and good for Hoese
but wouldn’t you try to reward Bennett for all he’s done with a carry there?
Hoese for Heisman?!?!?!?!?!
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Doak Walker at least
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That gopher ESPNU logo freaks me out.
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when was the last time we had a 200 yard rushing game by a single guy? 2006?
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I have 2 questions for everyone...
how pleased are you with 10/17 150 yards by Weber (no INTs and started 0/3, 10/14 the rest of the way)?
how pleased are you with the defense? They stunk in 2nd qtr but slowed down the MTSU offense the rest of the way?
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They both made adjustments when needed.
Props to the defense, Weber had the running game to lean on. He’s going to need to tighten his game for the rest of the schedule because the run game isn’t going to be there every game.
A Wins a Win but they gotta get better
good lord.
not pleased....5th year guy
should be putting up pts….he was missing passes and throwing behind guys…all the best drives took the ball out of his hands and were run drives.
not to mention
the field goal drive on 3rd down…Marquis never had a shade of separation and he just threw the ball….thats robotic…not a 5th QB move…should have looked to his 2nd option but just turned like a robot and pitched it to the corner.
ignore the fact that I often defend Weber, let's just talk about the play
but isn’t that fade play always “robotic?” Isn’t it always a two-step, throw to corner of end zone? you throw it high and right in the back corner where only your WR can get it. if there is no separation it isn’t the QBs fault but it lands harmlessly.
I realize Weber is highly criticized but that play wasn’t an example of how bad he was today.
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The fact that you dont know the workings of a fade
pattern worries me. It should look “robotic” when executed correctly. Obviously it was the WR that needs to separate, but the QB’s 2nd read is to see that the WR gets off the line. Pre snap he also has to read if they are playing man or up on the line where you then have a pre-snap option to check down or audible out of that play. Buts thats what a 5th year guy would do…our guy just ran the play as if it were a practice.
I hope to go back and watch
but I wonder how many rushes were run behind Carufel/Wills
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Initial Thoughts
Most times I watch the game on a slight delay so I can watch some of the game on the treadmill and skip commercials… So here are my initial thoughts….
1) I don’t care about anyone else’s stats this week, Jon Hoese needs to win Big 10 Offensive Player of the Week. To go what he has gone through this week and still have that determination (even in on special teams) was great to see.
2) Love the fact Horton stuck with the running game. Have no idea if the execution will work in the Big 10 though as those defensive guys will be able to match up with our big o-line. Bennett looked great, Kirkwood should move up to the #2 back.
3) Seriously, there isn’t one place kicker in Minnesota high schools each year that can’t kick a 40 yard FG? I had forgotten Ellestad didn’t have one last year either. If he can’t, find someone else.
4) Defense had ups and downs. Not enough pass rush without CB blitzes. Tackling on running plays was hit and miss.
5) In the first half I couldn’t tell that Weber was the senior QB and Kilgore was playing his first FBS game. I though Kilgore’s throws were more on the money. Weber improved in the 2nd half though.
6) O-Line can’t pass block very well… This will be a problem when we can’t run the ball and have to pass.
In the end, I think I learned a lot about our coaching philosophy, specifically on the offensive side of the ball, but I don’t think I learned how good the Gophers are or can be yet. Still, I’ll take the win on the road against a better than average non-conference cupcake bowl team. They are no Boise State but not bad.
Stud Kicker
Didnt we have a stud kicker out of Colorado somewhere recruited and he ended up dropping MN and going to UCLA? Would have been good to see what that kid could have done.
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