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Big Ten Power Poll Roundtable

Before the Big Ten season tipped off, Myron Medcalf assembled some of the best and brightest minds in the area to vote in a weekly Big Ten Power Poll.  I was asked to represent TDG in this prestigious and elite group of Gopher fans.  In reality I was probably asked only after several people said no but I'll take what I can get.  The poll has been a lot of fun but I wanted to add to the fun by posing a few questions to the group.  Once everyone responds I'll summarize the responses and share with the world.

So I posed the following questions to the group, below are my answers and on Monday I'll give you the groups responses.

1 - The Gophers endured probably the most difficult start to the Big Ten season that one could imagine.  On the road against three of the league's best all resulted in a loss, though two of those games were one possessions games with under a minute to go.  Now Purdue is the only road game left against an upper-tier Big Ten team, but what about the other road games?  What road game against a mid or lower tier team concerns you the most and why?

Easily the road game that most concerns me is Penn State.  A month ago I would have thought Michigan or Northwestern, and they won't be easy outs, but Penn State has righted their ship since Big Ten games began.  Penn State entered the Big Ten season 7-4 losing all four games by double-digits including Maryland by 23 and Maine by 10.  Their seven wins were arguably the least impressive collection of wins in the league as well.  But now the Nittany Lions are a surprising 3-3 in conference play.  They beat Michigan State and Illinois at home before they came within 3 of beating Ohio State on the road.

It is interesting that defensively they were stronger in the non-conference, but they have started shooting better and turning the ball over less.  Jeff Brooks and David Jackson have raised their ppg average by at least a point and a half.  And of course they have the Taylor Battle who for my money is the most feared player in the Big Ten.  I am not looking forward to the trip to Happy Valley for our Gophers.

2 - The short bench and minutes played by starters has been a hot topic lately.  To me there are two angles to this topic.  First of all this means we are forced to rely on a few true freshmen in the backcourt for the rest of the Big Ten season.  By the time we get to the Big Ten tournament which of the freshmen will step up (if any) and be a consistent factor off the bench.  Secondly, can the current starters (plus Iverson) continue to play the extended minutes they are playing for the remaining schedule?  Will they be able to apply pressure defense and play transition offense without wearing down? 

I'm personally not holding my breath that any of the freshmen will be reliable in the post season.  Best case scenario is Hollins and Armelin continue to grow in confidence and they'll be able to play an extra couple minutes each half giving our starters more time to rest.  Those two certainly can add some value but I would never expect more than 6-8 points out of either of them on a good night.  My expectations are simple.  Play a solid 4 minutes each half and don't turn the ball over.  Occasionally you'll get some offensive contributions like Ahanmisi's 6 points against Indiana and Hollins' huge buckets against Purdue, but I am not counting on that being consistent.

The real question is how will this affect the rest of our roster.  Really Hoffarber and Nolen have been playing 32-34 minutes per game all year.  We just need to keep them from playing 39 minutes.  Just a few minutes of rest each half goes a long way towards being fresh enough in the final minutes to be effective.  The frontcourt is another story.  The guys who have really seen their minutes dramatically increase has been Mbakwe, Sampson and Williams.  Williams has been playing much better lately and Mbakwe is our best player so those guys need to be playing extended minutes anyway.  Sampson is, of course, hit or miss but he too should be playing more minutes.

I'm not concerned that we'll wear down, I'm OK with the minutes being played by the "6 starters".  As long as the freshmen continue to play with confidence and don't turn the ball over this team will be fine.

 

 

3 - The Gophers haven’t won a Big Ten title, officially, since 1982. Even if you include the vacated Big Ten title in 1997, this program has finished top three in the Big Ten two times since the 1980-81 season.  "What will it take for this program to make the strides necessary to compete for Big Ten titles in basketball?"

Time, patience, luck.  When you are not a traditional power you need to get the right staff in place and give them some time.  Even then you need some luck or at least you need to avoid bad luck.  Last year's team could have easily been a top 3 team had they been able to play Trevor Mbakwe.  And that same team could have been special if Royce White would have come to school with his head on straight and ready to give us an offensive boost we were lacking.  

I have no doubt that Tubby Smith can lead this program to a top 3 finish and with some luck win a league title.  Recruiting may need to pick up a little bit.   Last year's class brought in a lot of guys but there were no standouts and next year's class looks good but still no 4-star type talent.  But year in and year out we should be a team with juniors and seniors.  We just need to get lucky and land a Talor Battle type player.  A three-star recruit who ends up being a dynamic go-to stud taking us from a good to a great team. 

Ultimately I like where our program is.  We are about to make the NCAA Tournament for the third consecutive year.  That has never been done in the program's history.  We moved from a low-tier team to the top of the mid-tier teams.  We are knocking on the door of the top 3, but I don't see a conference championship anytime in our near future.

4 - Let's move on to some Big Ten talk.  We've all been participating in the power poll and Ohio State has been the near unanimous #1 all season.  It would be hard to argue that anyone else will win the league but when all is said and done who will be the second best team in the conference and why?

It pains me to write this but I'm going to go with Wisconsin.  I know that Purdue has a 2 game lead on the Badgers but the Boilermakers haven't played anybody yet.  Michigan State isn't playing very well, Illinois is too inconsistent and I like the Badgers balance.  It will probably be at least three teams within a game of each other or even all tied but if I had to project my Big Ten #2 it would be Wisconsin.

5 - The Barn...stand up or sit down? Here is your opportunity to rant...

Really I don't care.  If I'm at the game I'll stand up and cheer when I want to cheer, if people want to sit they can sit.  But I guess it is kind of lame to attend a game expect others to sit quietly and watch.  Maybe this is a Minnesota thing.  One time I was at a Twins game in the Dome.  I was sitting along the 3B line so you all know how you had to turn your body to see home plate.  Well there was a pitching change so while the relief pitcher was warming up I stood up to stretch and some guy (in the next section over) yells "sit down, you jerk!"  Anyway, people HAVE to understand that some people go to the games to cheer for their team.  If you've paid good money and have been loyal supporters of the program for years, you have every right to enjoy the game however you want.  Sit down, stand up, whatever but don't expect the rest of The Barn to sit quietly so as not to disturb you.

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Penn State

This team instantly got better once Talor Battle realized that he can pass the ball to his teamates and they won’t throw it away. I think they are going to win most of there home games, and surprise a couple of teams on the road. They should end the Big Ten season around 9-9 or 10-8. Which if that happened it would really shake up the Big Ten race.

by tc_brent on Jan 20, 2011 2:18 PM CST reply actions  

I am with you on all your answers
  1. though worries me. Nolan is not 100% as far as I can tell. His injury is an overuse type (again guessing). He will not hold up if he plays 39 minutes from here on out like he did agst Purdue. Somehow, Tubby has to cut down on his minutes for him to go the distance and still be on the court come tourney time. I understand your apprehension about throwing freshmen out there but I see no way around it. If I am Tubby, I am playing Chip 5-6 minutes in each half. Otherwise, I fear Nolan will physically breakdown. If Chip can’t handle it, put Hoff at PG.

by Texas Gopher on Jan 20, 2011 3:20 PM CST reply actions  

My post got a little jumbled up

in the sending process but I am sure you can figure it out.

by Texas Gopher on Jan 20, 2011 3:23 PM CST reply actions  

Mini-rant coming in 3...2...1...

STAND UP, PEOPLE!!

Seriously, the one reason I love watching teams like Duke play on TV is that their entire arena is into the game, for the entire game. They seem to follow the belief that “you don’t stand and cheer only when something good happens, you stand and cheer to MAKE something good happen”.

Look, I’m not suggesting that 93 year-old alumni with two bad hip sockets and a walker need to be jumping up and down like the student section… although if you can, GREAT!… I am saying that in order to create a real home-court advantage, basketball cannot be a spectator sport. Like that annoying “Do” commercial says, “LET ME SEE YOU MOVE SOMETHING”!!!

by Medcity on Jan 20, 2011 3:43 PM CST reply actions  

Annoying Stat

I saw an annoying stat during the PS/PSU game. Wisconsin has never finished below fourth in the Big Ten since Bo Ryan has been there (puke). Or course, the Big Ten has more depth now than maybe ever with the influx of quality coaches added to the conference. There isn’t a lot of seperation between 2 and 7 in the conference and it should make for an exciting race.

I have to disagree that Wisconsin will finish 2nd though, Purdue is very consistent defensively and JuJuan is the toughest player to stop in the conference. If E’Twaun isn’t ice cold (2-14) we lose that one. D was good on him, but he missed a lot of open shots too. I don’t think Wisky will win more than 10-11 games.

by Narby on Jan 20, 2011 6:03 PM CST reply actions  

I thought long and hard about Purdue

but a couple things. The toughest B10 opponent they have faced is Minnesota. They haven’t played one game against MSU, OSU, Wis or Ill yet. That is 7 games against the other four best teams in the conference (8 if you include Minn). Wisconsin has just 5 games against upper tier teams.

And while Moore had a terrible game against us, JJ Johnson also had his best game of the year. We may have lost if Moore would have had played better but I would also argue that if he had 10 more points, Johnson would have had fewer points.

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by GopherNation on Jan 21, 2011 8:58 AM CST up reply actions  

MSU

I think tomorrow night’s game against MSU will show what our team (Purdue) is going to be.

I agree that we’ve only played two strong teams so far (Minn and WV, VT maybe falls under that with their late surge), so we’re a big unknown right now. I don’t believe the Penn State game was a bad thing, they’re definitely good.

I think tomorrow’s game will answer the question everyone is asking about Purdue.

by AustinP0027 on Jan 21, 2011 10:09 AM CST up reply actions  

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