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Gopher Basketball Recruiting Update

With the departure of Devoe Joseph the Gophers have at least one scholarship available to use for the 2011 class.  So who do we have, what do we need and who are we pursuing?  Let's take a look.

Committed to 2011 - this part isn't anything new but just a quick recap of the current Gopher class

Joe Coleman - (6-3, 185) SG from Hopkins and brother of former Gopher, Dan Coleman.  Like his elder brother, Joe is rather athletic.  But those who have seen him and wrote about him say he is much more aggressive and loves getting to the rim in traffic. 

"Coleman is an explosive athlete who shows no fear taking the ball to the hoop. He makes electrifying plays around the basket and is not afraid to attempt to dunk on anyone."

"Coleman is an excellent rebounder for a perimeter player and is a solid defender on the ball and in the team concept."

He needs to work on his range as he is not a great shooter outside of 18 feet but I expect he'll earn plenty of early playing time coming off the bench for Hollins assuming he is ready to contribute defensively.

Andre Hollins - (6-2, 190) Plays for a great Memphis program that is currently trying to defend their big class 2010 state title.  As a junior he played SG, partially because their team sported a five-star, blue chip PG.  Now Hollins is playing PG and preparing for life as a Big Ten point.

He is a blue-collar guy at the SG position who laces them up tight every time he steps between the lines. He has good range on his jump shot out to 24', but his game is attacking the rim off the dribble. When he sees an opening he attacks like he is shot out of cannon. Defensively, he really sets down in his stance and moves his feet well.

I'm looking forward to his toughness and basketball IQ that he'll be bringing. There is still a question however if he's going to be the answer at point.  Scoring isn't a question though as he is averaging over 25 ppg on a squad currently in the Tennessee playoffs having accumulated 26 wins.  He may come in next year as our best backcourt player from day 1.

So with those two guys here is what your 2011-12 roster currently looks like.   With the unexpected departure of Joseph we have 12 scholarship players which opens up an additional scholarship to be used now.

2011-12 2012-13 2013-14 2014-15
SR Trevor Mbwake PF X
SR Ralph Sampson III C X
SR Colten Iverson C X
JR Rodney Williams SF X X
SO Austin Hollins SG X X X
SO Maurice Walker C X X X
SO Maverick Ahanmisi PG X X X
SO Chip Armelin SG X X X
rFR Oto Osenieks PF X X X X
rFR Elliot Eliason C X X X X
FR Joe Coleman G/F X X X X
FR Andre Hollins G X X X X
JR Dominique Dawson F walk-on walk-on
Scholarships Used 12 9 8 4
Scholarships Available 1 4 5 9

 

Needs

So the next obvious question is what position do we use this open scholarship on?  If you believe that Andre Hollins is the answer at point then you can ignore that position but I may lean towards landing a JUCO point as our top priority. The loss of Al Nolen this year has really shown that we currently have very little reliable options at point.  Maybe Andre is the answer and Maverick will be a solid backup in his second year.  So maybe PG is OK or maybe we need a JUCO point who can help solidify the position.  If Andre comes in and solidifies himself as the best option that is awesome.  Then we'll have a JR transfer who can give us some experience backing him up and Hollins can move over to a scoring guard for stretches.

The next obvious deficiency we are currently seeing that will only get worse is the lack of a shooting guard.  It doesn't appear as though we have a reliable shooter on the roster.  Austin has been OK from outside and one can expect with some experience and confidence he'll be solid next year from the outside.  But after that we have some really ugly shooting percentages from the arc and we could really use a shooter.  Rodney has improved his percentage and it is now "UP" to 20.6% and Chip is at 22.7%.  Those two need to spend every day of the offseason putting up 500 shots, maybe they need to give Eric Harris a call to learn how to go from a horrid shooter to reliable.  The one wild card might be Oto Osenieks who just might be a very nice shooting forward.

Speaking of Oto, the third possible use of this last scholarship is on a PF to spell Mbakwe and not force us to play two slow-footed centers at the same time.  None of us know if Oto is capable of being that person next year, but landing an eventual replacement for "In-N-Out" might not be a bad use of the final scholarship.  For all of the talk that Tubby cannot produce NBA players, he should be able to convince a top notch, high school PF in 2012 that he needs someone to replace the production of Trevor Mbakwe.  So if this position gets ignored this spring, it will have to be addressed in 2012 along with SG.

Pursuing - with all of that said, who are the Gopher pursuing?  According to stories from Ryan James at GopherIllustrated and various other internet sources, here is who we are currently pursuing to some degree.

We are hitting the JUCO ranks for a point guard and if I had any say in the matter this is the route we would go for next season.  I am very nervous about our point guard depth and overall talent at that position.  Below are a handful of kids we are looking at in order of who I'd like to see Tubby and Co. land as a Golden Gopher.

Julian Welch has reportedly been offered an actual scholarship which means he is in the driver's seat to nab the open scholly from Joseph's transfer.  The JUCO spent his freshman season at UC Davis where he was the Big West Conference freshman of the year.  As a freshman he shot 35% from behind the arc making 27 on the year.  Currently that is more than all three of our current freshman who have combined to make 26 on the year and 35% would rank second on the team behind Blake.  His JUCO numbers are hard to find but based on his freshman numbers at UC-Davis he would possibly add some shooting ability to this roster.

He is likely more of a scoring guard than a true point, but we need both and he has some experience.  He is visiting in early March and I would not be surprised if Welch commits soon over an offer from UNLV and interest from Cal.

Chris Colvin is a 6-3 point guard who spent his freshman season at Iowa State.  After the coaching change he decided to spend his sophomore year in the JUCO ranks.  This year for Palm Beach State College he has been an integral part of their 23-4 record.  In their most recent win over Miami-Dade Colvin scored 30.  He was action in 29 games at Iowa State as a true freshman.

Darius Smith is also a JUCO point guard who the Gophers recruited out of high school.  Smith ended up at UConn for his freshman season and then is spending this season playing for the College of Southern Idaho.  Coming out of high school Minnesota spent time recruiting Smith and he was then known as a lock down defender with quick reflexes.  His ESPN eval coming out of high school had this to say.

Smith personifies a true ballhawk. He has unbelievably quick hands and reactions and specializes in stripping opponents on the dribble or with the ball in their hands. He has long arms and is a fierce competitor.

He is currently averaging just 8.7 points per game but nearly 5.5 assists and 3 steals per game.  He is leading a ranked JUCO program that has plenty of very good talent on it.  He isn't going to answer our scoring issues but he might fill Nolen's shoes as a defensive point quite nicely.  I like the idea of Smith.

Martyre Demarco is a newer name on the horizon.  Demarco is a 6-2 Arizona native playing ball in California.  He is not overly quick but he shoots well from the point and would be a nice combo guard.

Henry Brooks would be that PF depth should we choose to not go the guard route. The 6-8 forward from Georgia was set to visit during the Illinois game but is now scheduled to come next weekend.  He considering Minnesota amongst offers from Maryland, Georgetown, Northwestern, Virginia Tech, Xavier, Harvard and others.  Notice the inclusion of Harvard and Northwestern, we've got a smart one here folks.  Brooks also starts for a team looking to three-peat as Georgia Class AAAA state champs.  He appears to be more of an athletic forward than a big forward who could score with his back to the basket.  Intriguing prospect for sure.

 

That is all that I know.  It seems pretty clear that Welch is the frontrunner for the last scholarship which would give this team three incoming guards who can score.  Hollins and Welch will likely have some range while Coleman (and Hollins) should bring some athleticism that can get to the rim.  It comes as no surprise to anyone who has seen this team play that we are severely lacking in scoring options in the backcourt.  Frontcourt depth is abundant but we need some scoring guards ASAP.

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Isn’t there a Halverson kid that is a walk on too?

by Tubtastic on Mar 1, 2011 1:32 PM CST reply actions  

you are right

not sure how he fell off my grid.

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by GopherNation on Mar 1, 2011 2:28 PM CST up reply actions  

an entire post

on incoming recruits and who we are after…and the one comment is about a walk-on that I missed?

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by GopherNation on Mar 1, 2011 2:29 PM CST up reply actions  

You must have

no knowledge of teh interwebz
No one appreciates how much work you put in on a post, they only notice spelling and grammatical errors :)

Formerly thewild_viking_twins. Because my old profile was kidnapped by ninjas, and I was NOT a bad enough dude to rescue it...

by NorthernStar on Mar 1, 2011 11:27 PM CST up reply actions  

that's fine

I was just kidding. When people point out my mistakes it lets me know people are actually reading things and gets me to not make as many mistakes.

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by GopherNation on Mar 2, 2011 9:14 AM CST up reply actions  

You forgot a comma

after mistakes…

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by NorthernStar on Mar 2, 2011 11:33 AM CST up reply actions  

go Back two Canis Hoopus

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by GopherNation on Mar 2, 2011 5:00 PM CST up reply actions  

lol

Formerly thewild_viking_twins. Because my old profile was kidnapped by ninjas, and I was NOT a bad enough dude to rescue it...

by NorthernStar on Mar 2, 2011 9:57 PM CST up reply actions  

Very well done.

I’ve already been discussing the post with the old college roommates…nice work GN!

by jimipig on Mar 2, 2011 8:14 AM CST up reply actions  

Question

I have noticed three white guys at the end of the bench in white shirts and ties during the games I have caught on TV. I have assumed they were Oto and Elliot but who might the third guy be??

by Texas Gopher on Mar 1, 2011 2:11 PM CST reply actions  

Chris Halverson is the third guy. Oto isn’t exactly white, as he’s Latvian but you’re right he and Elliot are the two others.

by saulsa on Mar 1, 2011 7:10 PM CST up reply actions  

JUCO point

There is not greater need on the team than a ready-to-play NOW point guard. I don’t care how good Andre Hollins MIGHT be. None of us trust Ahanmisi as a reliable option running the team. Get more talent in that spot, and don’t feel bad if Mav ends up in the same position as Justin Cobbs.

Journalism. Enhanced.

by MNdailyGuy on Mar 1, 2011 5:42 PM CST reply actions  

to be honest

I would be kind of pleased of Mav decided to transfer (ala J Cobbs). Then we can nab two JUCO guards and spread out our scholarships a bit, we only have 1 junior on scholarship.

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by GopherNation on Mar 2, 2011 9:15 AM CST up reply actions  

get a scorer no matter where he plays

I think going after a point guard would be the prudent thing, but even when Al was going strong this team still needed more scoring. Austin, Chip and Rodney coudl be good scorers, but each has some big question marks. Andre and Joe coudl be scores, but neither has proven anything yet. I think we all know that RSIII, Colton, and Mav are not going to be scorers. I say just add as much scoring ability and ask questions later.

by tc_brent on Mar 1, 2011 7:46 PM CST reply actions  

I don't think PF is as critical immediately

assuming Mbakwe finishes up his eligibility. I have great feelings about Oto, but even if he doesn’t turn out to be the answer, he will gain experience next year under Trevor. Then hopefully we can pick up a 2012 PF to go along with him.
GN- no mention of DeAndre Daniels? I know our chances with him are likely less than 1% but I believe we are still pursuing him.

by saulsa on Mar 1, 2011 7:50 PM CST reply actions  

I meant to talk about Daniels

but forgot, sorry.

Here is the update. Top 10 player rumored to be talking with Tubby, we won’t get him.

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by GopherNation on Mar 2, 2011 9:16 AM CST up reply actions  

Good Summary (Thanks)

I think Welch and Brooks would be nice additions.

The FR class next year already has C Eliason – WF Osenieks – SG/PG Hollins – SG/WF Coleman so either (or both) would be good ones to add to the class.

Brooks (especially) seems to be a late bloomer who will do well in college.

by FortyYearCatFan on Mar 2, 2011 6:13 AM CST reply actions  

has anyone seen Oto play?

What type of game does he have. He doesn’t look that big in street closes so I cannot imagine that he is a banger, but he is listed as a PF. Is he more of a wing? Hopefully he can shoot.

by tc_brent on Mar 2, 2011 9:29 AM CST up reply actions  

I was thinking...

…what bad luck it was to have the toughest part of our season early when we had Nolen…and we lost anyway. Those 3-4 extra wins if we’d played the end of our Big 10 season first sure would help us about now.

Waste of time to think about these things? Absolutely! But I’ve got a nice walk from my train station to my office….so I have learned over the years to fill it with “what if” Gopher athletic scenarios….

by jimipig on Mar 2, 2011 8:17 AM CST reply actions  

you are absolutely right

Nolen SHOULD have had surgery in December. He would have missed those non-conf games that we would have likely won anyway and he would have missed the first several B10 games that we lost anyway. But too late now.

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by GopherNation on Mar 2, 2011 9:18 AM CST up reply actions  

Jimipig

my biggest BB “what if” at the moment is if Cory Joseph had joined his brother and they would have had their heads screwed on straight. That could have been a real tough backcourt (and unique also). My top recruiting request is a full-time PG—-this talk of another shooting guard or combo guard is killing me. I like the sounds of this Smith guy. Anyone who can make the UConn team as a freshman must be tough.

by Texas Gopher on Mar 2, 2011 8:36 AM CST reply actions  

I like Smith too

I wish we could grab Smith AND Welch or Colvin.

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by GopherNation on Mar 2, 2011 9:19 AM CST up reply actions  

Excellent point about Smith

If he’s playing significant minutes for UConn as a frosh, I want that guy. Nolen would not have accomplished that his first year out of high school, and I think most of us would be thrilled to have, if nothing else, an Al Nolen type player to fill the void at PG next year.

Is hoops season over yet? My eyes will be on the hockey team vs Bemidji this weekend.

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by MNdailyGuy on Mar 2, 2011 9:33 AM CST up reply actions  

I hate you!

YES, Cory being a Gopher puts us Top 15. Ridiculous! I was a happier alum prior to having to remember Joseph’s brother rejected MN for Tejas….

by jimipig on Mar 2, 2011 10:43 AM CST up reply actions  

jp

the Joseph brothers are a perfect example of how most of the time guards are not interchangeable. Cory is a pure PG whereas Devoe was a SG. Yes, they can play both positions but you give up something when they do. BTW, I have been able to watch CJ play and he is playing welll and has a ton of potential (just a freshman on a top ten team).

by Texas Gopher on Mar 2, 2011 11:21 AM CST reply actions  

Darius Smith's CSI (JuCo) Team Won NJCAA Championship Last Night

But he was not PG – Pierre Jackson (5-10 PG) was named MVP of NJCAA tourney.

by FortyYearCatFan on Mar 20, 2011 8:08 AM CDT reply actions  

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