AAAAHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!! Gophers Lose to Iowa (again)

I would give anything to have a team to support who gives 110% like Iowa did in both games against us this season. They fucking haul ass around the floor and play until the tank is empty.

How many offensive rebounds can we yield off missed free throws!

I also noticed we are pretty poor at swinging the ball around quickly. We hold it and look around on every pass. There is one key to beating a zone, rapid ball movement to exploit slow shifts and out of position defenders. It was fucking painful to watch. Almost as painful as watching Rodney get taken off the dribble by #15. NBA READY? Playoffs? Playoffs? NBA READY?

Let’s at least agree to stop talking about the NCAAs.

How could we let them out hustle is…again….damn it. They take Moss and a must win basketball game in a single day. I piss on the state of Iowa. Any state who could give a caucus near victory to Santorum “women should have babies from rape and just try to make the best of a bad situation”…can go fuck itself until it implodes.

Sorry to bring politics into this discussion….feel free to disregard all statements as rage-induced. Ski u mah men. At least I have football to be unrealisticly optimistic about for the next 8 months.

I’ve been hearing about this all morning.

That will shut them up.

the Gophers and NCAA Tourney do not deserve to be in the same sentence (at least not now). College sports is so much about emotion which is why I love it. How can these guys come out flat?? Tubby and staff seem listliss. Don’t even think about our lone senior providing any kind of pregame fire and brimstone talk. This was a huge game and how you don’t come out and play like your season is on the line is very depressing to me.

How can I feel good about this FB recruiting class (which I do) and Rivals has the U at #12 in the conference (as in bottom)???

I didn’t see this coming. really have nothing to add to the discussion today. just…bughufladsja..ahpsuohfw;.a…yuck

… share the same fear of important fathers. Brewster started a bad quarterback more college games than Peyton Manning, Drew Brees, or Aaron Rogers started. Tubby starts and plays a bad center more games than Michael Jordan started. You just can’t have Ralph on the floor when the chips are down. Ralph securing a basketball has the same odds as a 5th grade girl with a bag of money around a group of Obama’s friends. No chance.

He was actually a solid QB. Very solid. Given the hand he was given…we never allowed him to reach any comfort.

Unless you are talking about somebody else…

And Ralph…we need his body this year, unfortunately….so we have no options. EE would die if he had to play much more this year.

And this comes from a guy who rode Weber’s ass for 3 years of sub-standard performance and who wants Ralph to quit the team! ha ha ha…..but in retrospect, Weber was given the most rotten hand a college QB could ever be given. He had good skills. Not great, but good.

Starting and playing 50 college football games really doesn’t give a guy much opportunity, does it?

Unless you count one of the best receivers in the history of college football. One offensive coordinator or 30 can’t help a guy who throws half his passes in the ground eight feet from the receiver. No OC can help a senior who lets South Dakota beat him by throwing a duck directly sidewise all the way across the field up for grabs by any one of eight defenders. That’s just a bad quarterback.

comparing Brewster to Tubby’s insistence on sticking with the weakest center in Big Ten history. Bad judgment.

This one’s simple… Iowa wanted it more at the end. The Goph’s had a couple of misses and then looked like the life was sucked out of them, even though the game wasn’t over yet. Was disappointing as a fan—- but is part of life… Generally… the guy that wants it more, gets it…

Face it, the Gophers are a middle of the road team… The loss of Mbakwe hurts bad… Tubby has done a very good job just keeping this team as competitive as it is. For all you Tubby haters out there—-when was the last time Minnesota consistently won at BB?(without cheating—i.e. NO Clem) Gotta go back to the Jim Dutcher days—heck, I was in elem/junior high those days… Quit being delusional thinking that the U is suddenly gonna become Kentucky or Duke… Tubby is going to be just fine, as will the U’s BB team. If Mbakwe can get an extra year—next year could be very good…

Minnesota won because they had great players under Musselman, Dutcher, and Haskins. They could recruit. What you call “cheating” by Haskins was a SFD tool who wrote a couple of papers. While that was going on every starting player at Michigan had a new car. Get real. The NCAA only goes after those who suck their thumbs and fall all over themselves to admit things they didn’t do. In five years Tubby has not recruited the calibre of players several previous coaches recruited. Worse, some of the best of Tubby’s recruits walked away because of his “offense” where you stand around in the half court and hold the ball for six seconds before passing.

thrown away by Tubby. The best player he recruited in five years tossed. Fred Hoiberg rehabilitated White, making him a better manager of personnel than Tubby. It remains true that Joseph and Cobbs, both productive starters today at Oregon and Cal respectively, left because of Tubby’s style of play.

Weber had “good skills, terrible leadership, and zero consistency”… Agreed, you make my point eloquently. Besides that, after his knee injury as a sophomore he lost the one great skill he had the first two years — mobility and quickness. Now, it does not take a genius to understand that if you have a mobile, running quarterback and an immobile leadfoot quarterback and you have the worst offensive line in the Big Ten, you go with the guy who can defend himself and make something happen on his own. That guy was not Weber.

and I am still steaming over that Iowa loss. I will be very disappointed if I see a Gopher BB team that comes out sluggish the first half agst. Neb. I hope they come out equally pissed about that Iowa loss and take it out on those huskers. I want to see the intensity ramped up several degrees.

Maturi suspending White was a figurehead housekeeping maneuver. Tubby runs basketball period, full stop, top to bottom. Maturi would have been on the street in a day had he suspended Tubby’s best recruit on his own. Tubby stupidly tossed White.

Joseph left because he couldn’t take Smith. Smith needed Joseph much more than Devoe needed Tubby.

“Our talent is significantly higher than theirs…” Maybe marginally from top to bottom and maybe not. Certainly not significantly better. Their freshman center is better than our freshman center and five times as good as our soft senior center. Gatens is great and Marble is very good. Basabe is a force inside coming off the bench. The role players are decent.

So you have two fairly evenly matched teams and one coach gets fire and brimstone on the floor and the other sends out guys to relax with a sandwich.

I have no grudge against Tubby. I was happy he was hired and expected a lot. What I got was a coach drifting toward retirement. If you think Tubby has the same commitment to basketball as Tom Crean, Tom Izzo, the guy at Iowa, or Bo Ryan, just to name a few, you are delusional. My beef with Tubby is that he is coasting. We don’t deserve that.

As for Jimmy Williams, Tubby took the easy way out there too rather than get his man. Tubby’s a nice guy and was a good coach. He’s not the right coach for the Gophers now.

How did crapping on Jimmy Williams and then losing a few million dollars on the deal “protect” the U’s reputation? The way to protect the U’s reputation is to win football and basketball games. Williams was a good recruiter. Tubby no longer is.

… because Tubby didn’t stand up and tell Maturi to take a hike or get a new coach. The AD is at best number three in the hierarchy at big time universities — after the football coach and the basketball coach. Those are the guys that bring in the revenue and enhance interest in the university, not a sap like Maturi.

But you are the one who said earlier that Maturi “protected” the U’s reputation by crapping on Williams. I am not debating Maturi. He is a fool. I am debating you because you are not a fool. We see it differently.

What Tubby could have done by standing up and showing some fire and what a guy coasting to retirement actually did are two different things. The fact Tubby took the easy way out and didn’t get his recruiter and didn’t save his best recruit do not indicate who has the power in the Athletic Department. It only indicates who has the will. My point from the beginning has been that Tubby does not have the will, the desire, nor the fire to coach and recruit for Gopher basketball the way I want to see it.

You may be thrilled being at the bottom of the conference and bragging that none of our wins had to be forfeited later. I remember every game when Clem went to the Final Four and we WON 32 times. I could care less what some whiney SFD does to capitulate to the NCAA after the fact. Clem and the Gophers were winners.

I can say it is time to think more