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Indiana Hoosiers at Minnesota Golden Gophers, Feb 26, 2012 12:00 PM CST


Just three regular season games remaining!

Game Time: 12:00
TV: ESPN

Pos -Minnesota (17-11)
Pnt/Gm Pnt/Gm #8 Indiana (15-1)
Pos
PG Julian Welch 4.6 12.3 Victor Oladipo
G
G Joe Coleman 10.2 8.7 Jordan Hulls G
F Austin Hollins
4.3
11.4 Derek Elston F
F Rodney Williams 10.4 13.5 Christian Watford F
C Ralph Sampson III 8.8 14.2 Cody Zeller F
Bench Andre Hollins 5.8 4.9 Will Sheehey
Bench
Bench
Eliott Eliason 8.0 5.0 Verdell Jones III
Bench
Bench
Oto Osenieks
2.5 1.6 Tom Pritchard
Bench

I found it most interesting against Michigan State how the Tubby shortened his bench. Chip played only a few minutes and Mav didn't play at all. Maybe that is the new strategy for the final few games. I also loved the lineup of Andre, Joe, Austin, Rodney and aggressive Ralph (or Elliott).

Indiana is just 6-5 since we faced them in Bloomington when they were 15-1. This is a good team that is much improved over last year, but they are not a great team. With that said, we can't exactly be taking anybody for granted (I mean anybody) and the Hoosiers are in a much better place than we are. But maybe, just maybe IU is looking past us to their final two home games against Michigan and Purdue. This from Crimson Quarry.

Ultimately, the season probably rises and falls with the final two home games. If IU beats Michigan State and Purdue, nobody is going to dwell on what happens against the Gophers.

OK, maybe I'm taking his quote a bit out of context. But if the Hoosiers really are thinking about their next two games AND if the Gophers come out with the same energy they played with against Michigan State, I think we can win this game. I like some of our match-ups. We play best against teams that are not terribly physical on the inside. IU has some talent and athleticism in the middle but bruisers they are not.

Finally, I'm making a call...I will likely be mocked and ridiculed...you ready?...We will win the final three games of the regular season.

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As happens before every game

Im talking myself into optimism, so I’ll go with you.

by amiller92 on Feb 26, 2012 10:03 AM CST reply actions  

And as I do...

…I say we lose by at least 10 and the Hoosiers shoot well from 3 and we can’t answer it.

I feel like Indiana will be focused and I doubt they are looking past us given we beat them in their house. I’m not sure how we come out after another “almost did something great” moment. Are we getting tired of “almost winning”? Do we totally lack the confidence needed to close-out games? Or will a leader emerge at home? Do we start a run here to close out strong to get back on the bubble where we can collapse and not make the NCAAs and then we can all be pissed off all over again?

Few hours I guess we’ll know!

Cheers gents. Ski U Mah.

by jimipig on Feb 26, 2012 10:50 AM CST reply actions  

Anyone's guess on predicting this one

I do like that IU team and their coach. Not surprised what Tom Crean has done in turning that program around. Speaking of TC (ex-Marquette) , I really like that current coach of Marquette (24-5)—-just sayin’. I’m with GN on a starting lineup—-the future starts now, play those young pups in the backcourt. Let EE play agst Zeller—-might not be pretty but a good experience for him. I will be shocked if the Gophers win, but I was blindsided by that last IU game so who knows??

by Texas Gopher on Feb 26, 2012 11:10 AM CST reply actions  

I LOVE Tom Crean

not surprised at all that he turned it around. But I believe most of the Hoosier fan base was ready to have him fired a year ago, amazing how smart fan bases can be.

what you say here can, and will, be used against you The Daily Gopher

by GopherNation on Feb 26, 2012 11:21 AM CST up reply actions  

Not really true. I never would have predicted that the IU fanbase would have been so patient with three straight 20 loss seasons. There was some low level grumbling, but Crean has been very popular even through the low points.

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by John M (The Crimson Quarry) on Feb 26, 2012 11:36 AM CST up reply actions  

have to disagree

Really dislike Crean, who is a world class whiner. But he’s gotten results, which you have to respect.

by amiller92 on Feb 26, 2012 11:52 AM CST via iPhone app up reply actions  

Rather than mock and ridicule you ....

If your prediction proves even two thirds correct I would nominate you to head the Federal Reserve where your prescience could be more usefully applied.

by DACGold on Feb 26, 2012 11:11 AM CST reply actions  

Nah, I can’t complain that you took me out of context when you admit that in the post. I really doubt that the team will be looking past it, and I am not really, either. I would love to see another solid road effort. My main point was that it’s tough to win on the road, and is always tough to win at the Barn. IU has come out flat in most of its recent road games, so my hopes for the game are based more on intensity than on whether IU gets outscored in the end.

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by John M (The Crimson Quarry) on Feb 26, 2012 11:12 AM CST reply actions  

No need to grasp. You guys are slightly favored, and I’ll be surprised on balance if IU wins.

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by John M (The Crimson Quarry) on Feb 26, 2012 11:35 AM CST up reply actions  

dre starting

Welch sitting due to hip pointer, according to Marcus, but will play.

by amiller92 on Feb 26, 2012 11:54 AM CST via iPhone app reply actions  

dunk it Ralph!

Two shots spun out.

by amiller92 on Feb 26, 2012 12:09 PM CST via iPhone app reply actions  

why shoot a 2

when we are 100% from three?

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by GopherNation on Feb 26, 2012 12:16 PM CST reply actions  

mav got up twice

And tubby told him to sit back down twice

by amiller92 on Feb 26, 2012 12:17 PM CST via iPhone app reply actions  

how can the red call that crap

And sit there and say nothin whine Crean prances about on the floor during our possessions, positions himself behind the guy with the ball and screams at him.

At minimum the refs need to tell him to stay off the floor, if not call the T. You can’t play defense, coach.

by amiller92 on Feb 26, 2012 12:20 PM CST via iPhone app reply actions  

gotta get Mav off the floor

Between the turnovers and the failure to get it into a wide open Ralph in the post, he is killing us.

by amiller92 on Feb 26, 2012 12:28 PM CST via iPhone app reply actions  

Ingram playing well

For him. Made a layup unlike his teammates

by amiller92 on Feb 26, 2012 12:46 PM CST via iPhone app reply actions  

I am really bored with Tubby.

I think I am permanently turned off from him.

Over the better part of a decade he hasn’t proven to me he is an above average coach. If the Gophers want an average coach, they don’t need to pay him $2 million a year to do so.

I’m bored as hell, and I’m struggling to stay interested in this game. That’s not a good sign.

by Kyleb_82 on Feb 26, 2012 12:48 PM CST reply actions  

yeah

Tubby missed a lot of layups and turned the ball over a lot inn that half.

by amiller92 on Feb 26, 2012 12:57 PM CST via iPhone app up reply actions   1 recs

Big picture

It’s hard to get pumped for a game knowing what our Big Ten record is (5 -10) and knowing what the Gopher’s ceiling is (bubble team) year in and year out.

by Kyleb_82 on Feb 26, 2012 1:13 PM CST up reply actions  

you are clarvoivant?

And knew that we would lose Nolen and Joseph last year and Trevor this year?

Because bubble wasn’t the ceiling with those guys.

by amiller92 on Feb 26, 2012 1:15 PM CST via iPhone app up reply actions  

And Iverson magically wanted off this team to go to a powerhouse like Colorado St.?

I don’t think so.

If Tubby couldn’t recruit when he was at Kentucky, then he won’t recruit when he’s at Minnesota.

by Kyleb_82 on Feb 26, 2012 1:25 PM CST up reply actions  

My point is

Mediocre players like Iverson and Cobb didn’t even stick around. There’s got to be a little something to that.

A good coach needs good players, not just be a good coach. Tubby has to take some responsibility for the players he brings here… since it’s his job to recruit them.

by Kyleb_82 on Feb 26, 2012 1:29 PM CST up reply actions  

No, it was sarcasm.

It’s a bad sign when he felt he would rather transfer to a team like Colorado St. Be willing to sit out a year and play for only one more season, rather than finish his career at MN.

He was even getting plenty of playing time. It’s not like he was buried on the bench.

by Kyleb_82 on Feb 26, 2012 1:32 PM CST up reply actions  

he was going to be

With Ralph and Trevor playing 25+ mins and Mo and Elliott needing time too.

He left for playing time.

by amiller92 on Feb 26, 2012 1:36 PM CST via iPhone app up reply actions  

I guess everyone has an excuse.

I better get use to watching mediocrity

by Kyleb_82 on Feb 26, 2012 1:38 PM CST up reply actions  

Or develop a longer attention span, apparently

"Our attitude is we look at ourselves and we grade ourselves. And even if we don’t like what’s happening on the other side, we don’t make a — it’s not our business" - Tony Larussa

by mnbrewer on Feb 26, 2012 3:27 PM CST up reply actions  

A pathetic effort

this first half. You can observe more intensity from a girl’s archery team. And Joe Coleman needs to sit down at the end of the bench until October 1.

by DACGold on Feb 26, 2012 12:54 PM CST reply actions  

Trevor's shagging rebounds

During the half time shout around. His attitude may be the best part of this season.

by amiller92 on Feb 26, 2012 1:04 PM CST via iPhone app reply actions  

ugh

Crean taking pity on us with this lineup.

by amiller92 on Feb 26, 2012 1:22 PM CST via iPhone app up reply actions  

Oh God

Keep pumping up Tubby, Dakich and O’Brien. Can’t wait for them to yack about the practice facility later in the game.

by John_Locke on Feb 26, 2012 1:28 PM CST reply actions  

this game is awesome

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by GopherNation on Feb 26, 2012 1:36 PM CST reply actions  

they havent quit

But they haven’t fixed any of the problems either.

by amiller92 on Feb 26, 2012 1:37 PM CST via iPhone app reply actions  

wish we had a guy like Huls

Who can just drain from three with a guy in his face.

by amiller92 on Feb 26, 2012 1:41 PM CST via iPhone app reply actions  

Walk ons

Rolling in. Hosea crittendon. On the road at the barn. We should be humiliated.

by jimipig on Feb 26, 2012 1:52 PM CST via mobile reply actions  

Well, my power was out.

Looks like it was for the best.

by Erik T on Feb 26, 2012 2:25 PM CST reply actions  

You could say that.

Best part of watching that game was when my 3 year old accidentally stomped on my nuts.

by jimipig on Feb 26, 2012 2:30 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

It is true that with ...

Mbakwe we would be a tournament team. With Mbakwe and Mo we could possibly have been competing for a Big Ten title. Tubby has no control over the injuries. But it is just hard to avoid the conclusion that the existing team reflects the attitude and intensity of the coach. It is sad to think we have at least one more year of this pathetic effort unless Tubby does the decent thing and retires.

by DACGold on Feb 26, 2012 2:36 PM CST reply actions  

Yes, correct

Beat Iowa twice, win the giveaway at Illinois, hang in and beat Michigan State, finish Ohio State and we are in contention. MSU and OSU have another loss each and we have five more wins and five less losses.

by DACGold on Feb 26, 2012 5:28 PM CST up reply actions  

22 Or 23 W Going Into Big 10 Tourney (With Them) But

No way competing with Mich St and Ohio St for Big 10 title (with them).

by FortyYearCatFan on Feb 26, 2012 6:26 PM CST up reply actions  

No idea what the chemistry would be.

by jimipig on Feb 26, 2012 7:10 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

Agreed.

That is the best case. If we had this guy, if we had that guy. Easy to say we wouldn’t have lost to Iowa but I can’t play that nonsense game. We struggled against some shitty teams with mbakwe.

by jimipig on Feb 26, 2012 7:20 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

You have all missed the point

The point was not that we would be winning a Big Ten title with Trevor and Mo. That was a very big maybe, possible. But the point was there are still 11 guys (who play) wearing Gopher uniforms and they are for the most part disinterested in competing some days. My point is the team is a reflection of the head coach when it comes to attitude and desire.

by DACGold on Feb 26, 2012 7:56 PM CST up reply actions  

Don't Agree Necessarily

The Gophers looked very interested against the best team in the Big 10 (Mich St) this week but suffered a very disappointing L in the last few minutes.

Today was not unexpected as byproduct of that.

by FortyYearCatFan on Feb 26, 2012 8:08 PM CST up reply actions  

Okay

Well. After that, I’m ready to say that I would shed no tears if Tubby decided to retire. That was just unacceptable.

by amiller92 on Feb 26, 2012 3:12 PM CST reply actions  

Absolutely

Pathetic. I was at game and the U should have paid fans to be here today. No energy, no effort nothing! Hundreds left at 10 minute mark of 2nd half.
Same problems continue to plague team…..missed free throws, turnovers, “stand around” offense. Tubby’s rotation was puzzling. Ingram played more minutes than Eliason! What’s up with that? Oto supposed to be a “shooter”?? Ugh! He was brutal. I could feel the “clanks”. And throughout it all, Crean active and “coaching” on the sideline, like it’s the finals of the Mid East Regional. Tubby sits on his stool……..

by Norske Guy on Feb 26, 2012 3:53 PM CST up reply actions  

Eliason had fouls

As did Rodney. Which is why Ingram was out there.

by amiller92 on Feb 26, 2012 4:41 PM CST up reply actions  

Very Poor Effort By Gophers (In Uniform Or In Suits) Today

Obviously the Mich St L was deflating. Just awful “body language” the whole game.

by FortyYearCatFan on Feb 26, 2012 6:27 PM CST reply actions  

And there is tubby

Tossing his players under the fucking bus again. “you’ve got who you’ve got, I guess they gave their best today”

I can’t STAND that about Tubby.

by jimipig on Feb 26, 2012 7:46 PM CST via mobile reply actions  

Sort Of Agree

If I were coach, practice at 6 AM tomorrow.

by FortyYearCatFan on Feb 26, 2012 8:09 PM CST up reply actions  

Agree 100%.

As Ozzie says…if you suck, work harder. Don’t bitch about it or cheat.

This fucking team needs to work harder on execution. Timing. Making everything crisp and tight.

Tubby should simply say “we’re going to work tomorrow”…but in his special way, has to toss players under the buss and defer blame. Guess his Players are different than the players he had beating MSU late in the game a few days ago…

Always brings me back to poor Hoffy last year.

by jimipig on Feb 26, 2012 8:54 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

Hoffarber

Agree. Treated poorly last year. I told his parents that at B10T last March. They were polite but I think they agreed that he deserved better (as a senior).

by FortyYearCatFan on Feb 27, 2012 6:05 AM CST reply actions  

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