Gophers Look to Beat Indiana (again) - OPEN THREAD
Indiana Hoosiers at Minnesota Golden Gophers, Feb 26, 2012 12:00 PM CST
Just three regular season games remaining!
Game Time: 12:00
TV: ESPN
| Pos | -Minnesota (17-11) |
Pnt/Gm | Pnt/Gm | #8 Indiana (15-1) |
Pos | |
| PG | Julian Welch | 4.6 | 12.3 | Victor Oladipo |
G | |
| G | Joe Coleman | 10.2 | 8.7 | Jordan Hulls | G | |
| F | Austin Hollins |
4.3 |
11.4 | Derek Elston | F | |
| F | Rodney Williams | 10.4 | 13.5 | Christian Watford | F | |
| C | Ralph Sampson III | 8.8 | 14.2 | Cody Zeller | F | |
| Bench | Andre Hollins | 5.8 | 4.9 | Will Sheehey |
Bench | |
| Bench |
Eliott Eliason | 8.0 | 5.0 | Verdell Jones III |
Bench | |
| Bench |
Oto Osenieks |
2.5 | 1.6 | Tom Pritchard |
Bench |
I found it most interesting against Michigan State how the Tubby shortened his bench. Chip played only a few minutes and Mav didn't play at all. Maybe that is the new strategy for the final few games. I also loved the lineup of Andre, Joe, Austin, Rodney and aggressive Ralph (or Elliott).
Indiana is just 6-5 since we faced them in Bloomington when they were 15-1. This is a good team that is much improved over last year, but they are not a great team. With that said, we can't exactly be taking anybody for granted (I mean anybody) and the Hoosiers are in a much better place than we are. But maybe, just maybe IU is looking past us to their final two home games against Michigan and Purdue. This from Crimson Quarry.
Ultimately, the season probably rises and falls with the final two home games. If IU beats Michigan State and Purdue, nobody is going to dwell on what happens against the Gophers.
OK, maybe I'm taking his quote a bit out of context. But if the Hoosiers really are thinking about their next two games AND if the Gophers come out with the same energy they played with against Michigan State, I think we can win this game. I like some of our match-ups. We play best against teams that are not terribly physical on the inside. IU has some talent and athleticism in the middle but bruisers they are not.
Finally, I'm making a call...I will likely be mocked and ridiculed...you ready?...We will win the final three games of the regular season.
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As happens before every game
Im talking myself into optimism, so I’ll go with you.
And as I do...
…I say we lose by at least 10 and the Hoosiers shoot well from 3 and we can’t answer it.
I feel like Indiana will be focused and I doubt they are looking past us given we beat them in their house. I’m not sure how we come out after another “almost did something great” moment. Are we getting tired of “almost winning”? Do we totally lack the confidence needed to close-out games? Or will a leader emerge at home? Do we start a run here to close out strong to get back on the bubble where we can collapse and not make the NCAAs and then we can all be pissed off all over again?
Few hours I guess we’ll know!
Cheers gents. Ski U Mah.
I meant just in the first half....
by jimipig on Feb 26, 2012 1:50 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Anyone's guess on predicting this one
I do like that IU team and their coach. Not surprised what Tom Crean has done in turning that program around. Speaking of TC (ex-Marquette) , I really like that current coach of Marquette (24-5)—-just sayin’. I’m with GN on a starting lineup—-the future starts now, play those young pups in the backcourt. Let EE play agst Zeller—-might not be pretty but a good experience for him. I will be shocked if the Gophers win, but I was blindsided by that last IU game so who knows??
I LOVE Tom Crean
not surprised at all that he turned it around. But I believe most of the Hoosier fan base was ready to have him fired a year ago, amazing how smart fan bases can be.
what you say here can, and will, be used against you The Daily Gopher
by GopherNation on Feb 26, 2012 11:21 AM CST up reply actions
Not really true. I never would have predicted that the IU fanbase would have been so patient with three straight 20 loss seasons. There was some low level grumbling, but Crean has been very popular even through the low points.
The Crimson Quarry, SB Nation's Indiana Hoosiers blog
by John M (The Crimson Quarry) on Feb 26, 2012 11:36 AM CST up reply actions
have to disagree
Really dislike Crean, who is a world class whiner. But he’s gotten results, which you have to respect.
by amiller92 on Feb 26, 2012 11:52 AM CST via iPhone app up reply actions
Rather than mock and ridicule you ....
If your prediction proves even two thirds correct I would nominate you to head the Federal Reserve where your prescience could be more usefully applied.
Nah, I can’t complain that you took me out of context when you admit that in the post. I really doubt that the team will be looking past it, and I am not really, either. I would love to see another solid road effort. My main point was that it’s tough to win on the road, and is always tough to win at the Barn. IU has come out flat in most of its recent road games, so my hopes for the game are based more on intensity than on whether IU gets outscored in the end.
The Crimson Quarry, SB Nation's Indiana Hoosiers blog
by John M (The Crimson Quarry) on Feb 26, 2012 11:12 AM CST reply actions
I was grasping for any reason to be optimistic
what you say here can, and will, be used against you The Daily Gopher
by GopherNation on Feb 26, 2012 11:19 AM CST up reply actions
No need to grasp. You guys are slightly favored, and I’ll be surprised on balance if IU wins.
The Crimson Quarry, SB Nation's Indiana Hoosiers blog
by John M (The Crimson Quarry) on Feb 26, 2012 11:35 AM CST up reply actions
dre starting
Welch sitting due to hip pointer, according to Marcus, but will play.
by amiller92 on Feb 26, 2012 11:54 AM CST via iPhone app reply actions
dunk it Ralph!
Two shots spun out.
by amiller92 on Feb 26, 2012 12:09 PM CST via iPhone app reply actions
why shoot a 2
when we are 100% from three?
what you say here can, and will, be used against you The Daily Gopher
especially as we can't make it from 2
by amiller92 on Feb 26, 2012 12:39 PM CST via iPhone app up reply actions
mav got up twice
And tubby told him to sit back down twice
by amiller92 on Feb 26, 2012 12:17 PM CST via iPhone app reply actions
how can the red call that crap
And sit there and say nothin whine Crean prances about on the floor during our possessions, positions himself behind the guy with the ball and screams at him.
At minimum the refs need to tell him to stay off the floor, if not call the T. You can’t play defense, coach.
by amiller92 on Feb 26, 2012 12:20 PM CST via iPhone app reply actions
gotta get Mav off the floor
Between the turnovers and the failure to get it into a wide open Ralph in the post, he is killing us.
by amiller92 on Feb 26, 2012 12:28 PM CST via iPhone app reply actions
Ingram playing well
For him. Made a layup unlike his teammates
by amiller92 on Feb 26, 2012 12:46 PM CST via iPhone app reply actions
I am really bored with Tubby.
I think I am permanently turned off from him.
Over the better part of a decade he hasn’t proven to me he is an above average coach. If the Gophers want an average coach, they don’t need to pay him $2 million a year to do so.
I’m bored as hell, and I’m struggling to stay interested in this game. That’s not a good sign.
yeah
Tubby missed a lot of layups and turned the ball over a lot inn that half.
by amiller92 on Feb 26, 2012 12:57 PM CST via iPhone app up reply actions 1 recs
Big picture
It’s hard to get pumped for a game knowing what our Big Ten record is (5 -10) and knowing what the Gopher’s ceiling is (bubble team) year in and year out.
you are clarvoivant?
And knew that we would lose Nolen and Joseph last year and Trevor this year?
Because bubble wasn’t the ceiling with those guys.
by amiller92 on Feb 26, 2012 1:15 PM CST via iPhone app up reply actions
And Iverson magically wanted off this team to go to a powerhouse like Colorado St.?
I don’t think so.
If Tubby couldn’t recruit when he was at Kentucky, then he won’t recruit when he’s at Minnesota.
My point is
Mediocre players like Iverson and Cobb didn’t even stick around. There’s got to be a little something to that.
A good coach needs good players, not just be a good coach. Tubby has to take some responsibility for the players he brings here… since it’s his job to recruit them.
you think Colton went looking for a team that would be more
Successful?
by amiller92 on Feb 26, 2012 1:30 PM CST via iPhone app up reply actions
No, it was sarcasm.
It’s a bad sign when he felt he would rather transfer to a team like Colorado St. Be willing to sit out a year and play for only one more season, rather than finish his career at MN.
He was even getting plenty of playing time. It’s not like he was buried on the bench.
he was going to be
With Ralph and Trevor playing 25+ mins and Mo and Elliott needing time too.
He left for playing time.
by amiller92 on Feb 26, 2012 1:36 PM CST via iPhone app up reply actions
Or develop a longer attention span, apparently
"Our attitude is we look at ourselves and we grade ourselves. And even if we don’t like what’s happening on the other side, we don’t make a — it’s not our business" - Tony Larussa
A pathetic effort
this first half. You can observe more intensity from a girl’s archery team. And Joe Coleman needs to sit down at the end of the bench until October 1.
Trevor's shagging rebounds
During the half time shout around. His attitude may be the best part of this season.
by amiller92 on Feb 26, 2012 1:04 PM CST via iPhone app reply actions
turnover, missed runner in the lane, foul, charge
Second half continues the first.
by amiller92 on Feb 26, 2012 1:10 PM CST via iPhone app reply actions
never seen so many fouls called on screens
by amiller92 on Feb 26, 2012 1:12 PM CST via iPhone app reply actions
Elliott could not have played that better
And still whistled.
by amiller92 on Feb 26, 2012 1:23 PM CST via iPhone app reply actions
Oh God
Keep pumping up Tubby, Dakich and O’Brien. Can’t wait for them to yack about the practice facility later in the game.
they havent quit
But they haven’t fixed any of the problems either.
by amiller92 on Feb 26, 2012 1:37 PM CST via iPhone app reply actions
wish we had a guy like Huls
Who can just drain from three with a guy in his face.
by amiller92 on Feb 26, 2012 1:41 PM CST via iPhone app reply actions
Walk ons
Rolling in. Hosea crittendon. On the road at the barn. We should be humiliated.
by jimipig on Feb 26, 2012 1:52 PM CST via mobile reply actions
You could say that.
Best part of watching that game was when my 3 year old accidentally stomped on my nuts.
by jimipig on Feb 26, 2012 2:30 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
It is true that with ...
Mbakwe we would be a tournament team. With Mbakwe and Mo we could possibly have been competing for a Big Ten title. Tubby has no control over the injuries. But it is just hard to avoid the conclusion that the existing team reflects the attitude and intensity of the coach. It is sad to think we have at least one more year of this pathetic effort unless Tubby does the decent thing and retires.
Competing for a big 10 title?
Easy there…
by jimipig on Feb 26, 2012 2:52 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Yes, correct
Beat Iowa twice, win the giveaway at Illinois, hang in and beat Michigan State, finish Ohio State and we are in contention. MSU and OSU have another loss each and we have five more wins and five less losses.
22 Or 23 W Going Into Big 10 Tourney (With Them) But
No way competing with Mich St and Ohio St for Big 10 title (with them).
by FortyYearCatFan on Feb 26, 2012 6:26 PM CST up reply actions
No idea what the chemistry would be.
by jimipig on Feb 26, 2012 7:10 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Agreed.
That is the best case. If we had this guy, if we had that guy. Easy to say we wouldn’t have lost to Iowa but I can’t play that nonsense game. We struggled against some shitty teams with mbakwe.
by jimipig on Feb 26, 2012 7:20 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
You have all missed the point
The point was not that we would be winning a Big Ten title with Trevor and Mo. That was a very big maybe, possible. But the point was there are still 11 guys (who play) wearing Gopher uniforms and they are for the most part disinterested in competing some days. My point is the team is a reflection of the head coach when it comes to attitude and desire.
Don't Agree Necessarily
The Gophers looked very interested against the best team in the Big 10 (Mich St) this week but suffered a very disappointing L in the last few minutes.
Today was not unexpected as byproduct of that.
by FortyYearCatFan on Feb 26, 2012 8:08 PM CST up reply actions
Okay
Well. After that, I’m ready to say that I would shed no tears if Tubby decided to retire. That was just unacceptable.
Absolutely
Pathetic. I was at game and the U should have paid fans to be here today. No energy, no effort nothing! Hundreds left at 10 minute mark of 2nd half.
Same problems continue to plague team…..missed free throws, turnovers, “stand around” offense. Tubby’s rotation was puzzling. Ingram played more minutes than Eliason! What’s up with that? Oto supposed to be a “shooter”?? Ugh! He was brutal. I could feel the “clanks”. And throughout it all, Crean active and “coaching” on the sideline, like it’s the finals of the Mid East Regional. Tubby sits on his stool……..
Eliason had fouls
As did Rodney. Which is why Ingram was out there.
Very Poor Effort By Gophers (In Uniform Or In Suits) Today
Obviously the Mich St L was deflating. Just awful “body language” the whole game.
by FortyYearCatFan on Feb 26, 2012 6:27 PM CST reply actions
And there is tubby
Tossing his players under the fucking bus again. “you’ve got who you’ve got, I guess they gave their best today”
I can’t STAND that about Tubby.
by jimipig on Feb 26, 2012 7:46 PM CST via mobile reply actions
Sort Of Agree
If I were coach, practice at 6 AM tomorrow.
by FortyYearCatFan on Feb 26, 2012 8:09 PM CST up reply actions
Agree 100%.
As Ozzie says…if you suck, work harder. Don’t bitch about it or cheat.
This fucking team needs to work harder on execution. Timing. Making everything crisp and tight.
Tubby should simply say “we’re going to work tomorrow”…but in his special way, has to toss players under the buss and defer blame. Guess his Players are different than the players he had beating MSU late in the game a few days ago…
Always brings me back to poor Hoffy last year.
by jimipig on Feb 26, 2012 8:54 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Hoffarber
Agree. Treated poorly last year. I told his parents that at B10T last March. They were polite but I think they agreed that he deserved better (as a senior).
by FortyYearCatFan on Feb 27, 2012 6:05 AM CST reply actions

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